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I was a victim of child psychological experimentation in the 80's and 90's

 
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I was a victim of child psychological experimentation in the 80's and 90's
After being sexually assaulted by my neighbor in 1987 I was then sexually assaulted by my first grade teacher the same year, her name was Mrs. Hill, teacher at Jackson elementary in Everett, Washington.

After the sexual assault I flipped out on her and attacked her in class some weeks after the assault.
She was able to convince everyone that I was retarded (her words) and I was sent to the special Ed program at another school.

My second grade teacher was a sadist, her name was Mrs. Green. Lowell elementary in Everett, Washington. She liked to antagonize us into outbursts and then restrain us by ripping us out of our chairs and slamming our backs onto the floor and pressing on our chest with her knee. She would laugh at us as our faces turned red.

The effects of this caused them to diagnose me as emotionally disturbed and I was sent to Luther Child Center/day treatment (now owned by compass health) and this is where the real horror began.

They would do different experiments on us to see how we react. They would take us on field trips and expose us to different situations to see how we responded.
I recall once being led down a path with a group of other Children where we view a man sitting naked on a bench with his clothing neatly folded beside him and reading a news paper.

Other experiments would involve sex play with the staff, including actual intercourse with a female staff member.
We were told individually that we weren't allowed to discuss our therapy, but kids talk and you could tell with the girls what had happened even if they refused to tell.

Sometimes they would lock us in closets. Sometimes we would be beaten.
All of it was regarded as therapy.

Of the few kids I stayed friends with all but one died through self destruction while we were teenagers. My last friend died at 27 because of drug abuse.

I have been told that because the statute of limitations has expired that I can't sue so I will never see justice.
So instead I have decided to begin talking about my experiences both to tell the story so that people know, but also because I now realize that I'm still suffering from what happened to me as a kid and I'm trying to come to terms with it.

My childhood was a long series of horrors and it destroyed me in many ways that I'm just now beginning to understand.
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Wow that's awful. So sorry.
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Stupid, sick, demonic experimentation has got to stop!
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I don't doubt it one tiny bit.
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i'm so sorry, op. all of your abusers need to leave this world if they haven't already. this kind of unwarranted abuse is INEXCUSEABLE.
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After being sexually assaulted by my neighbor in 1987 I was then sexually assaulted by my first grade teacher the same year, her name was Mrs. Hill, teacher at Jackson elementary in Everett, Washington.

After the sexual assault I flipped out on her and attacked her in class some weeks after the assault.
She was able to convince everyone that I was retarded (her words) and I was sent to the special Ed program at another school.

My second grade teacher was a sadist, her name was Mrs. Green. Lowell elementary in Everett, Washington. She liked to antagonize us into outbursts and then restrain us by ripping us out of our chairs and slamming our backs onto the floor and pressing on our chest with her knee. She would laugh at us as our faces turned red.

The effects of this caused them to diagnose me as emotionally disturbed and I was sent to Luther Child Center/day treatment (now owned by compass health) and this is where the real horror began.

They would do different experiments on us to see how we react. They would take us on field trips and expose us to different situations to see how we responded.
I recall once being led down a path with a group of other Children where we view a man sitting naked on a bench with his clothing neatly folded beside him and reading a news paper.

Op. Any way for me to co tact you in regards to these events?

-concerned veteran
Other experiments would involve sex play with the staff, including actual intercourse with a female staff member.
We were told individually that we weren't allowed to discuss our therapy, but kids talk and you could tell with the girls what had happened even if they refused to tell.

Sometimes they would lock us in closets. Sometimes we would be beaten.
All of it was regarded as therapy.

Of the few kids I stayed friends with all but one died through self destruction while we were teenagers. My last friend died at 27 because of drug abuse.

I have been told that because the statute of limitations has expired that I can't sue so I will never see justice.
So instead I have decided to begin talking about my experiences both to tell the story so that people know, but also because I now realize that I'm still suffering from what happened to me as a kid and I'm trying to come to terms with it.

My childhood was a long series of horrors and it destroyed me in many ways that I'm just now beginning to understand.
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That is awful, OP. Also some of the people who post on this site suck but thats whatever.

Do you have any names of the institutions or schools that you attended? Is there any more you can recall or expand upon?

Washington state is fucked up and has been fucked up for years. Bill Gates came from there.
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That is awful, OP. Also some of the people who post on this site suck but thats whatever.

Do you have any names of the institutions or schools that you attended? Is there any more you can recall or expand upon?

Washington state is fucked up and has been fucked up for years. Bill Gates came from there.
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I mentioned the ones of importance.
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How awful.

I hope telling your story helps you to heal.
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How awful.

I hope telling your story helps you to heal.
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Well I hope so too.
Like a dumbass I reached out to the school district and told them my story.
I talked to a title 9 officer for the district named Mary O'Brian and you know what she did? She twisted my words, said there was no record of me and that my claims were unsubstantiated and that it didn't matter anyway because the statute of limitations was up.

So what she did was what Mrs. Hill did in first grade, she found a way to wash her hand of me.

I am so angry and I feel like an idiot for convincing myself that times had changed and that if I reached out that maybe things could be made right.
But it was just more of the same.

So now I'm going to reach out to the justice department, but O don't have a lot of faith that they will actually give a fuck. Why would they?

Anyway I'm having a shitty night.
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why do people all the sudden get their knickers in a knot as adults to resolve these memories by trying to confront the system?

you should have enjoyed your first teachers knees, but you made it worse. How did that happen? Did your parents help you by suggesting you move? Why didn't they help you in the worse situation? Are you retarded? You don't sound retarded, but you got labelled retarded somehow. Why didn't your parents fight for a better school for you?


But its hopeless, because you may be attracting inappropriate sexual attention. Maybe something kinky went on with a family member. Bro or Coach liked to bone you? Did you like the attention?

You gotta to find a group of people who have experienced something similar. Don't feel like a victim. Some people rubbed one out on you is all, you're not a girl, you're not "ruined for life." and neither are they. That's how they get young women, saying they are a 'ruined' powerless victim. No man will want you now, with your hymen broken!
Now, that IS abuse!

The big problem is our culture has some negative feelings about sexuality. You may have a more mature sex life and be less uptight about your body because of the early genital exposure. Or worse, I don't know.

May depend if your a boy or a girl. I think boys become more open and self accepting, with a better body image, and accepting of others. Girls may act out.

That naughty school sounds interesting. Bright young teachers! Improving lives by using the behavioural modification techniques they just learned in College! I might want to rehash that with a professional.

They beat you? you did something, they did something back. "You can thank us later, when you realize we did you a favour, as you didn't become a spoiled brat. you learned consequences, the world responds to you, that you are not autistic." Are you?


I've known a couple people sexually abused. A biker sex slave and a high school football player by Coach. majorly mindfucked. Drugs don't help as an adult to reintegrate a compartmentalized personality.

and it didn't destroy you, it devastated you. you're still here. You can can still heal.
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A neighbor's mom gave me a handjob at a sleepover when I was 9. At the time I ddnt know what was up..and she was a fat alcoholic with mental problems and a shitty life.

Despite that, it didnt traumatize me. Next time I saw her she seemed like she didnt remember a thing...which was prpbably true.

Dscretion is important in such matters.
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That's terrible. Sorry you had experienced these crimes. If this had happened in perverted NYS, there would be NO statute of limitations.

Mentally Sick Governor Cuomo of Sick York, passed this law. This would help you out. As bad as it is.
Good luck and God bless you.
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Statue of limitations begins after discovery of new facts associated with the claim.

So for example if you turned up a contract from the CIA for the research the statute begins tolling upon the discovery of new facts.

Some states give specific leeway to the statute for child abuse, New York for example re priest molestations.

You file a federal civil rights lawsuit, any reasonable claim opens the door to discovery, subpoenas for documents, etc..

Generally 42 US Code Section 1983.
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Horrifying. I'm so glad I had the mom I did. She listened to me, adults who even dared to give me bad vibes were taken out of my life. She warned my 4th grade teacher, he melted and later bumped me to the advanced reading group.
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How awful.

I hope telling your story helps you to heal.
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That’s horrible.
Hope you can heal.

It’s weird, I was physically abused by a teacher when I was 6.
She used to pull my hair and pinch my arms.
Regularly slapped my head with a plastic ruler.
I used to have nightmares about her
Her name was Mrs Hill too!!!!!
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Names then?
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You're a survivor and living proof that there's only one cure for those that did that shit to you...
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When a child is victimized, it's truly heartbreaking. Try to realize that you are a soul, and you happen to be piloting a body. It's not the other way around. Your soul is strong, but the body has a mind that can be damaged by the things others do and the things we witness. Realize that you are a soul with a damaged vehicle, but that your vehicle is okay, safe, and you are going to continue.

Try not to fixate on the childhood trauma and realize that evil, deranged, and mistake-making people were behind those traumas. Perhaps you can find peace with those who just screwed up. Perhaps you can understand that derangement is a product of also being damaged. You should be angry, but that anger should always be toward those who abused you. Do not try to reconcile yourself into that equation. You were . . . a body to them.

That doesn't make it okay. That just means they were terrible, and what happened was terrible. Your pain is incomparable to the pain of others, because it's "YOUR PAIN". Nobody can say anything that will alleviate it, and nobody can diminish it. But you can address that you have that pain and choose that it is limited in how it affects you. Sometimes that's easier said than done, but realize the following:

You may never see justice in this go-round.
You may never understand why.
You may be angry and confused, and that's okay.
You are a survivor, no longer a victim. A victim decides to let this crap affect them in debilitating ways. A survivor tells this crap, "Yeah you happened but you have no control anymore."
Some days will be worse than others.
Think of the bad times as waves that may knock you down from time to time, and there will be more waves, but you can learn to surf and you can learn to brace. You can learn to try to float. You can learn to swim during the choppy waters. You'll still swallow water, but it can get better.

Good luck.
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So that's why students dissapeared with whoever's in the cloakroom. oops2
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so why were you (and the others released) = how old were you when you were released

where were you parents all of this time you were being abused (are they military?)

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Your pee pee - was it touched?
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Sorry, man.....hf
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After being sexually assaulted by my neighbor in 1987 I was then sexually assaulted by my first grade teacher the same year, her name was Mrs. Hill, teacher at Jackson elementary in Everett, Washington.

After the sexual assault I flipped out on her and attacked her in class some weeks after the assault.
She was able to convince everyone that I was retarded (her words) and I was sent to the special Ed program at another school.

My second grade teacher was a sadist, her name was Mrs. Green. Lowell elementary in Everett, Washington. She liked to antagonize us into outbursts and then restrain us by ripping us out of our chairs and slamming our backs onto the floor and pressing on our chest with her knee. She would laugh at us as our faces turned red.

The effects of this caused them to diagnose me as emotionally disturbed and I was sent to Luther Child Center/day treatment (now owned by compass health) and this is where the real horror began.

They would do different experiments on us to see how we react. They would take us on field trips and expose us to different situations to see how we responded.
I recall once being led down a path with a group of other Children where we view a man sitting naked on a bench with his clothing neatly folded beside him and reading a news paper.

Other experiments would involve sex play with the staff, including actual intercourse with a female staff member.
We were told individually that we weren't allowed to discuss our therapy, but kids talk and you could tell with the girls what had happened even if they refused to tell.

Sometimes they would lock us in closets. Sometimes we would be beaten.
All of it was regarded as therapy.

Of the few kids I stayed friends with all but one died through self destruction while we were teenagers. My last friend died at 27 because of drug abuse.

I have been told that because the statute of limitations has expired that I can't sue so I will never see justice.
So instead I have decided to begin talking about my experiences both to tell the story so that people know, but also because I now realize that I'm still suffering from what happened to me as a kid and I'm trying to come to terms with it.

My childhood was a long series of horrors and it destroyed me in many ways that I'm just now beginning to understand.
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I speak for all the children who received head injuries, dismemberment, became blind, deaf, or paraplegic, when i say that getting your pee pee touched is the worse thing that can happen to a kid at the hands of another. Yeah, sure
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I was abused by my Mother's friends husband as a 7 or 8 year old child.

Then abused by middle school athletes in early teens and the school would do nothing.

I began getting phone calls at home (on a landline) from one a MUCH older male who knew me from school, knew personal stuff, would say super sick shit to me on the phone, I never told my parents and so never learned who he was. But he threatened me like you wouldn't believe to the point I was afraid to leave my house.

Btw. I was in a segregated program for 'gifted students' that they used to give us in the 70's that once you tested into it, you were pretty much starred for the rest of your education and kept separated from 'other students' and they were all told basically how much smarter you were than them, therefore, you got a lot of hate back.

Buried all this mentally until I had a TIA that unlocked my childhood like it happened yesterday. Why I could not recall a lot of this before I think is a mix of things, but I still can't recall the outings and things I did with the other kids in this group, except for one fossil dig.

Needless to say, I'm 53 and in therapy. 2 of these people are likely dead, maybe more. I'll Keep Going. Fuck them.
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I am so, so very sad to hear this my friend.

Keep talking.
You need to work through this.
I am listening.
There are others here who have very similar memories.

You did nothing wrong.

Justice will be served eventually.
The Lord does not look upon child molesters fondly.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
I send you my unconditional love.
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