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All you have to do is check the Vaers system and you will see the truth

 
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The VAERS system is an unverified reporting system that does not determine if a vaccine caused the events that are reported.

VAERS does not determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse events, which can often happen coincidentally after immunization.

VAERS has often been misrepresented by anti-vaccine advocates, and the distribution of a COVID-19 vaccine has brought more attention to the surveillance system.

Since anyone can submit a report to the system, it is impossible to know if the symptoms were caused by the vaccine.

“There are spikes of reporting on various things and some people unfortunately use VAERS inappropriately,” Campbell said. “Any symptoms can be reported by VAERS by anyone.”

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This so called fact check is actually very misleading.

VAERS is the canary in the coal mine. That is what it is there for. Studies have shown it actually underepresents deaths and injuries by up to 90% as most deaths and injuries related to vaccines go unreported.

It has been used for years as an early warning system for vaccine dangers.

Don't let these so called fact checkers gaslight you.
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New data in Vaers. Here is a very sad case:

pregnancy history: g2p1001. patient had the pfizer covid vaccine on 8/6/21 at 33 3/7 weeks gestation (edd 9/21/21). presented 8/15/21 at 34 5/7 weeks gestation with preterm labor. cbc with differential found to have significant abnormalities. twins were delivered via c-section. twin a birth weight 5lb 2.5oz and twin b birth weight 6lb 1.4oz. oncology consulted and bone marrow biopsy diagnosed patient with aml. induction chemotherapy with 7+3 given 8/17-8/23/21 with resulting pancytopenia necessitating daily blood/platelet transfusions. on 9/1/21, had a catastrophic intracranial hemorrhage and patient died on 9/2/21.

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36 year old woman in Minnesota.
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


This is one of the new reports that I posted to this thread earlier: Thread: Starting a thread on Covid vaccinated cancer cases
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The VAERS system is an unverified reporting system that does not determine if a vaccine caused the events that are reported.

VAERS does not determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse events, which can often happen coincidentally after immunization.

VAERS has often been misrepresented by anti-vaccine advocates, and the distribution of a COVID-19 vaccine has brought more attention to the surveillance system.

Since anyone can submit a report to the system, it is impossible to know if the symptoms were caused by the vaccine.

“There are spikes of reporting on various things and some people unfortunately use VAERS inappropriately,” Campbell said. “Any symptoms can be reported by VAERS by anyone.”

[link to apnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80857050


This so called fact check is actually very misleading.

VAERS is the canary in the coal mine. That is what it is there for. Studies have shown it actually underepresents deaths and injuries by up to 90% as most deaths and injuries related to vaccines go unreported.

It has been used for years as an early warning system for vaccine dangers.

Don't let these so called fact checkers gaslight you.
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I absolutely agree, and the latest reports certainly don't agree with what we are hearing from the media. The vaccinated ARE still suffering from severe cases of COVID. They ARE still being hospitalized, and they ARE still dying from the CDC approved hospital protocol.
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Here is one for you from vaers

14,000 dead from the vaccines with less than 1%! Reporting

Times that by 99%

That’s 1,386,099 dead from the vaccines
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Here is one for you from vaers

14,000 dead from the vaccines with less than 1%! Reporting

Times that by 99%

That’s 1,386,099 dead from the vaccines

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That is in the USA alone
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You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one.

Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid!

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JASSEN:( Using 07232021 Data )
62:1
28:2
26:3
17:4

MODERNA: ( Using 07302021 Data )
428:0
542:1
246:2

144:3
============
PFIZER:( Using 07302021 Data )
Deaths: Days to Death after Onset (Vaccine)
2,837:0
1,902:1

650:2
448:3
329:4
 Quoting: TXP


Janssen is a viral vector vaccine, meaning passive vaccine, not so many deaths with that one.

The mRNAs aka Moderna and Pfizer active vaccines are the real killers. They command cells to produce the spike protein, the others just present either the spike protein or parts of inactivated virus to the body.

Almost ten times more deaths with these active vaccines (you have to take into account also the total number of shots), what a shitshow.

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VAERS is meaningless. Anybody can enter anything they want and none of it is verified.

VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.

A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.


[link to vaers.hhs.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80857050


That's not true at all. While anyone is able to submit a report the information requested to complete the form during steps 3 and 4 are only availble to someone with the documentation from being vaccinated. That's why VAERS generally only records one percent of adverse reactions because the necessary documentation is only provided at a hospital or a medical clinic unless you specifically request it and the information identifies the person reporting the incident or the person they're reporting it for. Further, healthcare providers administering vaccines in certain settings are required by law to report adverse events but not in all settings which is another reason the reporting is low. Not all healthcare providers report from all settings. Lastly, filing a false report comes with a hefty fine and a ban from reporting on VAERS for life and if a healthcare provider files a false report, a complaint against them that could get their license supsended. It may look like anyone can file a report but that's false information. If you doubt it, try it and enjoy paying your fine.
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First they told us that the clot shots would protect the person from getting the China virus (or should we call it the Fauci bioweapon)

Then we were told that the clot shot would prevent hospitalization and death from the Fauci bioweapon.

Now we are being told that we must all get the clot shots in order to protect everyone from the Fauci bioweapon.

Only problem is Fauci is the spokesperson for the clot shot and everything he and everyone else has said about the clot shots has been proven to be a lie.

So do you go along with this medical tyranny? Give up your freedom, your health, and probably eventually your life just to keep a job?
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Perform a query for deaths per month.

I did from 1990 until August 2021.

Deaths absolutely explode in January 2021.
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Run the numbers for yourself here:
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Re: All you have to do is check the Vaers system and you will see the truth
JASSEN:( Using 07232021 Data )
62:1
28:2
26:3
17:4

MODERNA: ( Using 07302021 Data )
428:0
542:1
246:2

144:3
============
PFIZER:( Using 07302021 Data )
Deaths: Days to Death after Onset (Vaccine)
2,837:0
1,902:1

650:2
448:3
329:4
 Quoting: TXP


Janssen is a viral vector vaccine, meaning passive vaccine, not so many deaths with that one.

The mRNAs aka Moderna and Pfizer active vaccines are the real killers. They command cells to produce the spike protein, the others just present either the spike protein or parts of inactivated virus to the body.

Almost ten times more deaths with these active vaccines (you have to take into account also the total number of shots), what a shitshow.
 Quoting: Big Lord


Exactly.

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VAERS is meaningless. Anybody can enter anything they want and none of it is verified.

VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.

A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.


[link to vaers.hhs.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80857050


That's not true at all. While anyone is able to submit a report the information requested to complete the form during steps 3 and 4 are only availble to someone with the documentation from being vaccinated. That's why VAERS generally only records one percent of adverse reactions because the necessary documentation is only provided at a hospital or a medical clinic unless you specifically request it and the information identifies the person reporting the incident or the person they're reporting it for. Further, healthcare providers administering vaccines in certain settings are required by law to report adverse events but not in all settings which is another reason the reporting is low. Not all healthcare providers report from all settings. Lastly, filing a false report comes with a hefty fine and a ban from reporting on VAERS for life and if a healthcare provider files a false report, a complaint against them that could get their license supsended. It may look like anyone can file a report but that's false information. If you doubt it, try it and enjoy paying your fine.
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Thanks for providing that information. cheers
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JASSEN:( Using 07232021 Data )
62:1
28:2
26:3
17:4

MODERNA: ( Using 07302021 Data )
428:0
542:1
246:2

144:3
============
PFIZER:( Using 07302021 Data )
Deaths: Days to Death after Onset (Vaccine)
2,837:0
1,902:1

650:2
448:3
329:4
 Quoting: TXP


Janssen is a viral vector vaccine, meaning passive vaccine, not so many deaths with that one.

The mRNAs aka Moderna and Pfizer active vaccines are the real killers. They command cells to produce the spike protein, the others just present either the spike protein or parts of inactivated virus to the body.

Almost ten times more deaths with these active vaccines (you have to take into account also the total number of shots), what a shitshow.
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Those numbers are with less than 1% reporting
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Thank you TXP.

Interesting but scary.

I wonder how many shots have been given of each variety as there appear to be a significantly higher number of deaths from the Pfizer shots.
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According to the CDC page:

Pfizer-BioNTech: 215,801,105

Moderna: 147,791,051

J&J/Janssen: 14,613,451

Not Identified: 364,110
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JASSEN:( Using 07232021 Data )
62:1
28:2
26:3
17:4

MODERNA: ( Using 07302021 Data )
428:0
542:1
246:2

144:3
============
PFIZER:( Using 07302021 Data )
Deaths: Days to Death after Onset (Vaccine)
2,837:0
1,902:1

650:2
448:3
329:4
 Quoting: TXP


Janssen is a viral vector vaccine, meaning passive vaccine, not so many deaths with that one.

The mRNAs aka Moderna and Pfizer active vaccines are the real killers. They command cells to produce the spike protein, the others just present either the spike protein or parts of inactivated virus to the body.

Almost ten times more deaths with these active vaccines (you have to take into account also the total number of shots), what a shitshow.
 Quoting: Big Lord


Those numbers are with less than 1% reporting
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Now multiply them by 100
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It is not true that only one percent of SERIOUS cases are reported to VAERS. Milder cases reported with much lower rate for sure. Doctors and nurses are not reporting every headache and nausea to the system.

If you compare to other countries they are reporting similar numbers so I'd guess about 80-90 percent of vaccine related deaths are reported to VAERS.

Anyway, the numbers are bad as such without any correction for non-reporting.
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It is not true that only one percent of SERIOUS cases are reported to VAERS. Milder cases reported with much lower rate for sure. Doctors and nurses are not reporting every headache and nausea to the system.

If you compare to other countries they are reporting similar numbers so I'd guess about 80-90 percent of vaccine related deaths are reported to VAERS.

Anyway, the numbers are bad as such without any correction for non-reporting.
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Nope I spoke with the leading attorney for the religious
Freedom foundation today that has over a dozen cases in court right now
That 1% includes deaths
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My half brother did the shot and blood clots almost killed him A month in the hospital in MS. Sister took it several months ago in from another venue and no problems so far.
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Thank you TXP.

Interesting but scary.

I wonder how many shots have been given of each variety as there appear to be a significantly higher number of deaths from the Pfizer shots.
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


According to the CDC page:

Pfizer-BioNTech: 215,801,105

Moderna: 147,791,051

J&J/Janssen: 14,613,451

Not Identified: 364,110

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29586687


So without doing the math and just eyeballing it, it looks like the reported death rates per number of vaccines given from Pfizer are higher than those from Moderna.

Janssen might even be worse considering how few of those appear to have been given in the US.
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VAERS is meaningless. Anybody can enter anything they want and none of it is verified.

VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.

A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.


[link to vaers.hhs.gov (secure)]
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dude, the trickle of bad vax reaction data is becoming a flood. keep telling yourself whatever you like but the facts remain facts - the vax is not only a failure but a danger.
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My half brother did the shot and blood clots almost killed him A month in the hospital in MS. Sister took it several months ago in from another venue and no problems so far.
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My double vaxxed family members have been lucky so far.

One did just go for an annual checkup for a known thyroid cancer and suddenly there is an issue after no issues for the past 7 years. She has to return in 3 months for a follow up.

One family member got really sick with pneumonia a few months after the shots but recovered after several weeks.

Another family member had an unusual reaction to a hornet sting. Not sure if it was related but it makes me wonder.
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Been telling people this for YEARS OP. All you have to do is look at the reports. The evidence is right there for people to see for themselves, yet most won't even be bothered to look at all of the deaths and severe side-effects that have destroyed the shot-takers lives.

And the worst part...the shot takers are getting ready to drop like flies. They are the walkikg dead and think they are ok because nothing happened upon the day of the shot. Within the next several moths to 3 years we will be seeing an extreme decrease in population directly due to the deaths of the genocide shot takers.
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I disagree. You will see far less than a half truth, which you then have to multiply by 100x2 to make up for the half.

Over a million dead.
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Starting to get reports with the boosters. This one is a breakthrough infection and heart attack.

the individual reports to contact tracers that they began experiencing covid-19 symptoms 8/20/21, the day after their third dose. on 8/23/21 (four days post third dose), this person experienced a heart attack and tested positive for covid-19 via a rapid test the same day. they subsequently tested negative via a pcr test on 8/25/21. this is a probable vaccination breakthrough infection post dose 3.

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Doesn't say if this birth was pre-term, but it doesn't sound normal. Also doesn't report the condition of the baby or mother afterward:

patient received vaccine roughly 1030am 01sep. at 1500 on 01sep patient reported chills, shaking, headache 6/10. vitals 36.7c oral, 115bpm, 99% spo2, 26rr, 137/62 bp. given tylenol for pain and prophylactic fever reduction. at 1625 patient reported having contractions lasting roughly 40 seconds at 6/10 intensity every 3.5-4min. 500ml bolus given, iv placed, fetal monitoring found fetal hr to be 190-200s. patient moved to l&d triage for continuous monitoring. contractions continued and patient delivered via favd at roughly 0051 on 01sep

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Had to look this up: FAVD*: Forceps assisted vaginal delivery
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Been telling people this for YEARS OP. All you have to do is look at the reports. The evidence is right there for people to see for themselves, yet most won't even be bothered to look at all of the deaths and severe side-effects that have destroyed the shot-takers lives.

And the worst part...the shot takers are getting ready to drop like flies. They are the walkikg dead and think they are ok because nothing happened upon the day of the shot. Within the next several moths to 3 years we will be seeing an extreme decrease in population directly due to the deaths of the genocide shot takers.
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I really don't like this kind of doom.
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The real kicker is the doctors thread

Hundreds of doctors and nurses have gotten very sick after taking the clot shot

Many have never returned to work
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I have had more people I know die in the past 6 months than my 40 years of life before. All blood clots and heart attacks. Never people heart attacks and lived, for now. This is all new to me to see so many deaths and heart attacks of person acquaintances and friends.
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We cant go by how many have already died because the odds are very good it it was as I suspect and intended to kill off large segments of the human race, it could not kill quickly. At least not so many it couldn't be smoothed over.

If people just dropped dead two days after they got it and large numbers of people did, people would get wise to it quick and no one else would take it or trust them...and shortly afterward a bloodbath would ensue, as people slew what they would by then would know were our evil overlords in a violent rebellion.

Think I'm kidding?
We could rid ourselves of them in one afternoon if we stood together and that is what scares the living bejeebers out of them, it's why they decided to do us in the first place, when they saw radical right wingers protesting the same thing the antifascists were.
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I have had more people I know die in the past 6 months than my 40 years of life before. All blood clots and heart attacks. Never people heart attacks and lived, for now. This is all new to me to see so many deaths and heart attacks of person acquaintances and friends.
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Same here five in my family
2 dead 2 strokes one heart attack 1 respiratory failure





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