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KuvaszLove

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Does anyone know criteria for medical exemption? I am building a log home in the Adirondack mountains i started before covid, I am devastated
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I spent quite a bit of time reading EEO laws and I was very disappointed to find out that an employer can argue the authenticity of your religious or medical exemption, if they believe it’s disingenuous. There are also not many religions that oppose modern medicine or vaccination. I think Christian Science might be one.

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The Universal Life Church has many many clergy.

Some states have laws specifically recognizing marriages solemnized by the ULC.

I suspect these states would also accept religious exemption support from ULC clergy.

the states that expressly recognize ULC marriage ceremonies:

four U.S. states have held that they will not recognize marriages solemnized by ULC ministers, while eight states have specifically held such marriages to be valid, these being Alabama, Illinois, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Washington. The remainder have not addressed the issue.

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So? Get thee offen thine sacred butt and file thine own papers. Pretty much time? Just get State and charter the 501c3 off a national church if you are going to do pantry - the only reason for a fed # is second harvest access. If you don't want to get pantry truck or file academic degrees, you dont need one. Dont need one for DDs either as far as that goes.
Ulc opened a door and lit some idea space. The pebble is gone grasshopper and it is time for you to go?
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I spent quite a bit of time reading EEO laws and I was very disappointed to find out that an employer can argue the authenticity of your religious or medical exemption, if they believe it’s disingenuous. There are also not many religions that oppose modern medicine or vaccination. I think Christian Science might be one.

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 Quoting: GemKline

annnd its like unemployment......you go to the thing and say its insulting and a slander and get more?

Last Edited by WrinkledGlory on 08/28/2021 10:24 AM
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been looking for current data on this.

no site seems great, but this one pretty good.

[link to worldpopulationreview.com (secure)]
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bump
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Thx for posting, although just last spring the state of CT passed bill opposing religious exemption, but I don’t think it’s gone into action yet.

Also, the state of MA has TWO bills floating around - remove religious exemption (Vargas bill) and the Rausch bill that will allow all children 10 years and older to make their own medical decisions and parents don’t need to be informed and medical records will be sealed if a child has had any shots, etc so parents will not know what medical attention child had. It’s Complete INSANITY and citizens of mass (including myself) are fighting tooth and nail to stop this medical tyranny. The problem is that big pharma is backing these two evil senators… don’t know what will happen even fighting the good fight.

My family will Move to either NH or FL if this happens…
 Quoting: Let Freedom Ring 365

See that name at a militia site. Stole a meme about identifying as vaccinated.
I am the sr health officer 22 years? I think that is what i am going to say, flat faced as a judge.
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may be coffee deficient this morning

not quite getting you!

coffeecupcoffeecup
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Thx for posting, although just last spring the state of CT passed bill opposing religious exemption, but I don’t think it’s gone into action yet.

Also, the state of MA has TWO bills floating around - remove religious exemption (Vargas bill) and the Rausch bill that will allow all children 10 years and older to make their own medical decisions and parents don’t need to be informed and medical records will be sealed if a child has had any shots, etc so parents will not know what medical attention child had. It’s Complete INSANITY and citizens of mass (including myself) are fighting tooth and nail to stop this medical tyranny. The problem is that big pharma is backing these two evil senators… don’t know what will happen even fighting the good fight.

My family will Move to either NH or FL if this happens…
 Quoting: Let Freedom Ring 365

See that name at a militia site. Stole a meme about identifying as vaccinated.
I am the sr health officer 22 years? I think that is what i am going to say, flat faced as a judge.
 Quoting: WrinkledGlory


may be coffee deficient this morning

not quite getting you!

coffeecupcoffeecup
 Quoting: beeches

Wasn't talking to you. The let freedom ring name I have seen elsewhere. It looked like the person that posted a good idea on a meme. Just "identify" as vaccinated
(Among drs, that would be even a lot funnier, unless they are really for vax. All understand all vax is about the money)
"I feels sorry for 'em till they talk? Then I'm off the hook and walk!"

Monks are home. We are out of money to help anybody with? May God bless and keep us. Amhealer at priest com

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I spent quite a bit of time reading EEO laws and I was very disappointed to find out that an employer can argue the authenticity of your religious or medical exemption, if they believe it’s disingenuous. There are also not many religions that oppose modern medicine or vaccination. I think Christian Science might be one.

[link to www.eeoc.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: GemKline


from your very informative link:



Title VII and COVID-19 Vaccinations


K.12. Under Title VII, how should an employer respond to an employee who communicates that he or she is unable to be vaccinated for COVID-19 (or provide documentation or other confirmation of vaccination) because of a sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance? (12/16/20, updated 5/28/21)

Once an employer is on notice that an employee’s sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance prevents the employee from getting a COVID-19 vaccine, the employer must provide a reasonable accommodation unless it would pose an undue hardship. Employers also may receive religious accommodation requests from individuals who wish to wait until an alternative version or specific brand of COVID-19 vaccine is available to the employee. Such requests should be processed according to the same standards that apply to other accommodation requests.

EEOC guidance explains that the definition of religion is broad and protects beliefs, practices, and observances with which the employer may be unfamiliar. Therefore, the employer should ordinarily assume that an employee’s request for religious accommodation is based on a sincerely held religious belief, practice, or observance.
However, if an employee requests a religious accommodation, and an employer is aware of facts that provide an objective basis for questioning either the religious nature or the sincerity of a particular belief, practice, or observance, the employer would be justified in requesting additional supporting information. See also 29 CFR 1605.

Under Title VII, an employer should thoroughly consider all possible reasonable accommodations, including telework and reassignment. For suggestions about types of reasonable accommodation for unvaccinated employees, see question and answer K.6., above. In many circumstances, it may be possible to accommodate those seeking reasonable accommodations for their religious beliefs, practices, or observances.

Under Title VII, courts define “undue hardship” as having more than minimal cost or burden on the employer. This is an easier standard for employers to meet than the ADA’s undue hardship standard, which applies to requests for accommodations due to a disability. Considerations relevant to undue hardship can include, among other things, the proportion of employees in the workplace who already are partially or fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and the extent of employee contact with non-employees, whose vaccination status could be unknown or who may be ineligible for the vaccine. Ultimately, if an employee cannot be accommodated, employers should determine if any other rights apply under the EEO laws or other federal, state, and local authorities before taking adverse employment action against an unvaccinated employee

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Does anyone know criteria for medical exemption? I am building a log home in the Adirondack mountains i started before covid, I am devastated
 Quoting: KuvaszLove


I can't speak specifics for New York State, assuming that is where you are building -

such an awful situation!!! -

New York does not recognize anything other than medical reasons, it seems.

most usual culprits are:

severe allergic response to past vaccinations

allergy to a component of the vaccine -

There may be more - if find some, will post.

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thanks for stars!

does not hurt to be ready.
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I'll take 1 religious exemption please...ANW-wait

yep, I'm ready for martyrdom if necessary ...yep and Amen.


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GT Big hair...yep and Amen.
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Constitutional Atty. Robert Barnes offers free letter you can give your employer:

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And then there's this...
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45 states with religious exemptions

4 states with ONLY medical exemptions - CA and NY in that number, of course.

15 or so with philosophical exemptions, sometimes called personal exemptions.
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Arkansas covers the gambit of exceptions, for now anyway.

Unfortunately, I'm seeing more California license plates driving around as of late. I really wish those tards would stay in their own shit holes.

We gots a whole lot of hillbillies, ya hear?

:epiclol-8bit:
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Been thinking about this and this thread seems like the place to ask, you guys know what you're talking about....

Anyway, what defines an acceptable religion?

If I go out and become an ordained minister and start signing religious exemptions for people, who's to say that's valid or not?
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Been thinking about this and this thread seems like the place to ask, you guys know what you're talking about....

Anyway, what defines an acceptable religion?

If I go out and become an ordained minister and start signing religious exemptions for people, who's to say that's valid or not?
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It all boils down to IF and WHAT the mandator (Boss, Corp., School, etc.) will accept.
If they agree with your position or claim, it's good enough.

If they do not... You have choices to make.

Quit
Don't shop there
Sue in court (good luck)
Go elsewhere
Relocate
Take the jab
etc.

Lots of choices.

I am amazed, disappointed, and angry that our world has
come to this.

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I am trapped in California and feeling absolutely screwed. I had saved up thousands of dollars in order to relocate for this reason, and it was recently stolen. I have a horrific medical history and very fragile health that is finally stable after many years of suffering most of the things that are listed on the side effects of the vaccine, things that people are suffering and dying from. I am literally a walking miracle and I have no interest in toying with that, or suffering on a daily basis because of these idiots and their sick concoctions. My doctor was unable to give me any type of exemption because she said she would lose her medical license, she was practically shaking in fear and wouldn't even make eye contact with me, and kept telling me to go talk to some other doctor about this subject, not her. She vaguely alluded to the fact that she is indeed having patients that are having complications because of having to take it. And now California is pushing their mandates.
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The Universal Life Church has many many clergy.

Some states have laws specifically recognizing marriages solemnized by the ULC.

I suspect these states would also accept religious exemption support from ULC clergy.

the states that expressly recognize ULC marriage ceremonies:

four U.S. states have held that they will not recognize marriages solemnized by ULC ministers, while eight states have specifically held such marriages to be valid, these being Alabama, Illinois, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Washington. The remainder have not addressed the issue.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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I was ordained by the ULC just over 30 years ago.
Also have a Doctor of Divinity through them.
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The Universal Life Church has many many clergy.

Some states have laws specifically recognizing marriages solemnized by the ULC.

I suspect these states would also accept religious exemption support from ULC clergy.

the states that expressly recognize ULC marriage ceremonies:

four U.S. states have held that they will not recognize marriages solemnized by ULC ministers, while eight states have specifically held such marriages to be valid, these being Alabama, Illinois, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Washington. The remainder have not addressed the issue.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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I was ordained by the ULC just over 30 years ago.
Also have a Doctor of Divinity through them.
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Tell!

can you offer wording for a good exemption style letter, one that someone ordained by the ULC might write?

I know one but he is lazy.
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Easiest way to have an exemption is to remove the illegal, treasonous, entities out of office starting with main stream media. When someone is trying to kill you, you don't offer them an exemption paper. Assemble the Americans. Sry for the rant, its meant as a pep talk..

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Been thinking about this and this thread seems like the place to ask, you guys know what you're talking about....

Anyway, what defines an acceptable religion?

If I go out and become an ordained minister and start signing religious exemptions for people, who's to say that's valid or not?
 Quoting: kargatane


I saw the great answer already provided - here is my experience in addition:

2 people I know were ordained by the Universal Life Church, which is fairly easy to do.

The Church does NOT tell you what to think or believe, or preach.

One person did it to officiate at his daughter's home wedding. It was legal.

The other did it as part of starting a small home-based ministry. Also fine.

The only problem is some states question the tax exemption of this church - are people getting ordained to avoid taxes?

Islam is not an acceptable religion in my mind - it isn't even a religion but a system of governance. Sucks as that too.
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Easiest way to have an exemption is to remove the illegal, treasonous, entities out of office starting with main stream media. When someone is trying to kill you, you don't offer them an exemption paper. Assemble the Americans. Sry for the rant, its meant as a pep talk..
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I am trapped in California and feeling absolutely screwed. I had saved up thousands of dollars in order to relocate for this reason, and it was recently stolen. I have a horrific medical history and very fragile health that is finally stable after many years of suffering most of the things that are listed on the side effects of the vaccine, things that people are suffering and dying from. I am literally a walking miracle and I have no interest in toying with that, or suffering on a daily basis because of these idiots and their sick concoctions. My doctor was unable to give me any type of exemption because she said she would lose her medical license, she was practically shaking in fear and wouldn't even make eye contact with me, and kept telling me to go talk to some other doctor about this subject, not her. She vaguely alluded to the fact that she is indeed having patients that are having complications because of having to take it. And now California is pushing their mandates.
 Quoting: SaintIn


team up with others, hide, or hitchhike out of California

That craphole only recognizes medical exemptions.

sorry for your predicament!
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Easiest way to have an exemption is to remove the illegal, treasonous, entities out of office starting with main stream media. When someone is trying to kill you, you don't offer them an exemption paper. Assemble the Americans. Sry for the rant, its meant as a pep talk..
 Quoting: Scorched


there are 2 rememdies suggested by our Founding Fathers, seccesion, and the one where States take back Federal authority.
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Im sorry but the states are compromised. At least 80% of them. For example they are trying to remove Cuomo and replace her with Pelosi's step daughter. <<compromised>> and no one can be trusted except non-government personnel.

There is a third and more appropriate action which should be used that fits removing such a crazy and infested rogue cult who is addicted to adrenachrome.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

let me re-word this

"Of the 120,000,000 men at home they are all commanded to physically remove any insurgents, plants, spies, traitors, usurpers, enemy, from any and all state and federal offices using any means necessary"

In the police academy they teach we cant reason with crazy, or drunks, or addicts, and therefor I say wedefinitely cannot reason with addicts addicted to a drug harvested from abducted children.

men need to start reaching out to Sheriffs. All sheriffs are supposed to run this brigade to make sure all is done legally. The might comes from the tens of millions of American men.

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WE NEED TO FIGHT BACK WITH THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX

GET ORDAINED AND HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR GET AN EXEMPTION


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Using the Sheriff All states, the FCC, and main stream media need to be taken as fast as possible. Any resistance from the Fed or the UN needs to be dealt with accordingly. This I fear is the only exemption which will work. Well, other than like Australia is trying, truckers cutting off supplies to certain states and the Fed.

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Thank you for the link!
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Thanks for posting this, Beeches. Also good links from Head2Bunkers and TN.

I have an appt. with my cardiologist and was going to ask for an exemption
but reading the comments, it doesn't look like it's going to fly.

We should have a Sunday service for GLP religiously-exempt people.
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been looking for current data on this.

no site seems great, but this one pretty good.

[link to worldpopulationreview.com (secure)]
 Quoting: beeches


Great post! Thank you!!
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WE NEED TO FIGHT BACK WITH THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX

GET ORDAINED AND HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR GET AN EXEMPTION


caps situation resolved!
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My religion is blocked by GLP.

It has to do with pasta.

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WE NEED TO FIGHT BACK WITH THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX

GET ORDAINED AND HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR GET AN EXEMPTION


caps situation resolved!
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My religion is blocked by GLP.

It has to do with pasta.
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you worship wheat?

stumped.
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