Florida Case/Death graph -- why are deaths declining so steeply | |
Tensei
User ID: 78551315 United States 08/22/2021 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are no longer counting deaths due to comorbidities/accidents/etc. as COVID deaths. If someone comes into the hospital and dies from a heart attack, despite an inaccurate PCR test saying they're positive, they are listing the death as a heart attack and not COVID. 95% of the COVID death count you read about for 2020 was completely fabricated by listing other causes of death as a COVID death just because a PCR test said they were positive. Last Edited by Tensei on 08/22/2021 05:15 PM Do you know the difference between justice and punishment? 2+2=4 |
chrion777
(OP) User ID: 79167926 United States 08/22/2021 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are no longer counting deaths due to comorbidities/accidents/etc. as COVID deaths. Quoting: Tensei If someone comes into the hospital and dies from a heart attack, despite an inaccurate PCR test saying they're positive, they are listing the death as a heart attack and not COVID. 95% of the COVID death count you read about for 2020 was completely fabricated by listing other causes of death as a COVID death just because a PCR test said they were positive. Is there any documentation when they made this change? Also it's stupid to classify someone who dies in a car accident as Covid but there's a lot of comorbid secondary conditions that ARE covid; like if someone dies of respiratory failure - clearly. If it's stroke or heart attack it could go either way because Covid DOES have cardiovascular complications. Wonder how they are counting it. Covid can obviously be over counted and undercounted. They should probably be forced to list primary and secondary causes and track it; Then we could view the graphs seperately also. Also when someone tests postiive they should be forced to lable them as asymptomatic, mild, moderate and severe and then to do sample testing to look for viral load using RT-qPCR for the different cohorts. |
Ninbit
User ID: 79343222 United States 08/22/2021 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announces negative COVID-19 test after Regeneron antibody treatment [link to www.statesman.com (secure)] Ninbit |
Silicon Jock
User ID: 80758161 United States 08/22/2021 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noticing that Florida cases are way up; even stronger then the peak of the largest previous Wave (wave 2 or 3 depending on how you count it). Quoting: chrion777 Cases have peakeed and are just starting to come down a little bit but deaths spiked hard and have come down very fast, faster then cases; usually deaths trail cases. What's going on here? what are you talking about? Deaths are WAY UP. Also, FL only reports weekly. |
Mason Firefly
User ID: 79925043 United States 08/22/2021 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noticing that Florida cases are way up; even stronger then the peak of the largest previous Wave (wave 2 or 3 depending on how you count it). Quoting: chrion777 Cases have peakeed and are just starting to come down a little bit but deaths spiked hard and have come down very fast, faster then cases; usually deaths trail cases. What's going on here? Simple... The PCR tests have been turned up to 40 cycles that gives nearly 100% positives. The founder of the PCR tests said it should never be turned over 17 cycles because it will give you false positives. The Delta variant are those that took the jabs like in highly vaccinated Israel. That's why it thrives there, and in other highly vaccinated countries like Pakistan. India the country of origin for the delta variant, low vaccination rate, it was not impactful. Ditto China that has no vaccination. When a virus mutates it get weaker and only changes .03 max from the original form. Viruses also do not thrive in the Summer Time. Ever hear of a flu virus from a year and half ago survive 2 Springs and 2 Summers? Answer: Nope because it's a different strain every year. That is well known. Finally viruses die in hot weather, and certainly in Florida in August. |
Uncle Gintel
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Weyoun
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Paxdragon
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Gypo O'Leary
User ID: 79541896 United States 08/22/2021 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are no longer counting deaths due to comorbidities/accidents/etc. as COVID deaths. Quoting: Tensei If someone comes into the hospital and dies from a heart attack, despite an inaccurate PCR test saying they're positive, they are listing the death as a heart attack and not COVID. 95% of the COVID death count you read about for 2020 was completely fabricated by listing other causes of death as a COVID death just because a PCR test said they were positive. Is there any documentation when they made this change? Also it's stupid to classify someone who dies in a car accident as Covid but there's a lot of comorbid secondary conditions that ARE covid; like if someone dies of respiratory failure - clearly. If it's stroke or heart attack it could go either way because Covid DOES have cardiovascular complications. Wonder how they are counting it. Covid can obviously be over counted and undercounted. They should probably be forced to list primary and secondary causes and track it; Then we could view the graphs seperately also. Also when someone tests postiive they should be forced to lable them as asymptomatic, mild, moderate and severe and then to do sample testing to look for viral load using RT-qPCR for the different cohorts. Yes. The CDC orginally changed the methodology of coding death on 03/25/2020. Between February and April they recognized that the original claims about the morbidity of Covid was exaggerated...so they took the 40 year old standard and threw it away. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Because of the vaccine, they wanted to back off the number of covid deaths... [link to rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com (secure)] A. Nonymous Coward |