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POLL: WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?

 
Butch DeFeo  (OP)

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Re: POLL: WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?
POLL: OVERALL, WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?

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Here is what I have heard, sources are local realtors whom are friends. My sources have told me, prices keep increasing because, even here in the Midwest, KS and Ok. People are coming here with cash offers. Here is what is driving prices up, competitive buyers with cash, and most recently, shortage of inventory. That is right folks, inventory is drying up, so when a new seller goes live, they are going high. I am getting ready to sell a flip. Let us see what happens. This flip will be 1 mile north of Winfield KS. On US 77. This house we are currently renovating, just for the sole purpose of the sell. 3 bd/ 2 bath, detached 2 car garage. all on a very private 2 acres. water well on property. House is hooked up to rural water. Septic on property just pumped and inspected/passed. Brand new Hot water tank, new furnace and air handler, complete new kitchen. House is freshly painted in/out. New flooring in family room with fireplace. New Flooring in kitchen and laundry room. House will list for $215,000 The house is 35 min drive to Wichita KS, it is also 12 min drive to Winfield lake. 1 min drive into town of Winfield. Years ago Time magazine listed Winfield number 1 place in America to raise a family. This town allowed it's first liquor store like 20 years ago plus or minus.
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Good luck on your flip.

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Re: POLL: WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?
I think the "collapse" of the building in Florida right on the beach will have a snowball effect of people wanting to ditch their older condos at a faster and faster pace fearing now that all the Chinese rebar and Chinese concrete and Chinese drywall and Chinese screws and bolts and beams are inside their very walls right now failing as we speak.

That is the level of reporting now going around.
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It won’t go down, even after the vaxxed die off. Why? They told us their plans “You will own nothing and be happy about it”

They don’t intend on anyone except the elite class to own property anymore. That’s why pension funds and swamp companies like blackrock are buying every property they can get.

The idea is we will all be renting from them.
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^^^this^^^^ could be spot on!
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
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Blackrock is spending 6 Billion on single family homes to
rent out, 6 Billion with 0% interest from the Fed, the game
is rigged!!
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How did they get approved to use all that money?

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Great reset
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It really depends on the area. Is there a bubble, is it a blue state? If you answer yes to both of those questions, the answer is: it will crash. If the answer is no, then it may not crash and could actually appreciate.
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I listened to a podcast from a woman from Zimbabwe. Their economy crashed and they had hyperinflation. She said the only thing that had value was real estate.
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It really depends on the area. Is there a bubble, is it a blue state? If you answer yes to both of those questions, the answer is: it will crash. If the answer is no, then it may not crash and could actually appreciate.
 Quoting: StayCurious


But Seattle is blue and in a bubble, and the thing is, there are MANY rich corporate people in the Seattle area, which should keep it propped UP, unless they all die from the COVID shots.
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It really depends on the area. Is there a bubble, is it a blue state? If you answer yes to both of those questions, the answer is: it will crash. If the answer is no, then it may not crash and could actually appreciate.
 Quoting: StayCurious


But Seattle is blue and in a bubble, and the thing is, there are MANY rich corporate people in the Seattle area, which should keep it propped UP, unless they all die from the COVID shots.
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I could be wrong, but...

I think once the real economy is dealt with (no government stimulus, no forbearance, student loan payments resume, etc.) we will see a lot more people losing their homes. Also, homes in Seattle are among the most expensive. Those middle class people who barely qualified for the monthly payment, what happens when their groceries, energy, gas, taxes, etc go up by 3 or 4 times? Inflation is not going to save the housing market -- it will just make it harder to keep a home.

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FACTORS:

1. Evictions not being allowed during COVID.
2. Mortgage forbearance during COVID
3. Low real estate INVENTORY
4. Black Rock and other super investors buying up houses at high prices
5. Chinese investors buying real estate
6. Huge number of millenials buying their first home
7. People working from home during COVID

ADD SOME FACTORS TO THIS LIST THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF


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 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


1 & 2 will end on June 30th. At this moment, these will not be extended again.

6. This trend is actually decreasing.

7. This is also ending as restrictions lift.
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IF

the vax die off occurs and thats IF

then it should go down
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My thoughts too. There will be way more inventory, this lowering costs.
On another note, I haven't seen anyone discuss how a die off will create suffering for pets and children. Who's gonna take care of all the kids and animals of the dead?
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Re: POLL: WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?
I think the moratorium was extended until the end of July.

The other things to keep an eye on are the the pensions and the stock market. Most people are expecting the stock market to crash sometime in the next year. If it does, we could also see a pension crisis in addition to the currency crisis. We're about at the point where bailouts are not going to work their magic anymore.
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I will be raising the rent on my tenants
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If people start getting sick from the shots at some point in the next 12 months, and or start dropping like flies, there will be a lot of empty homes flood the market.
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I think the moratorium was extended until the end of July.

The other things to keep an eye on are the the pensions and the stock market. Most people are expecting the stock market to crash sometime in the next year. If it does, we could also see a pension crisis in addition to the currency crisis. We're about at the point where bailouts are not going to work their magic anymore.
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This shit is happening fast. Here's your DOW, converted to easy mode for even the simpleton to understand.

When the crash occurs, it's going to be biblical - across all markets.

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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This is nothing like the 2008 bubble. In that scenario, home owners were awash with ADJUSTABLE mortgages. Today, most buyers have a FIXED low rate.

2008 ARMs
Rates went up
People could no longer afford home
Foreclosures abound
Housing prices crater

2021 FIXED
Inflation sends the price of everything up
Mortgage rate remains unchanged (even cheaper than rent)
Foreclosures only for: 1. People in too much home that can't afford both food & mortgage 2. Job loss (loss of all income)
Foreclosees will be homeless without assistance due to skyrocketing rents
Housing prices continue to increase from inflation and low availability alone.
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and just like that, seemingly without any warning, you won’t be able to sell your home that had doubled in price.

yeah but institutions are buying. and smart cities. and etc etc and they aren’t making anymore land! and bob said to buy now before it’s too late ... and ...

ignore all that. it’s going to pop. and when it does it will happen quickly. overnight.
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If people start getting sick from the shots at some point in the next 12 months, and or start dropping like flies, there will be a lot of empty homes flood the market.
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Illegals coming in
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and just like that, seemingly without any warning, you won’t be able to sell your home that had doubled in price.

yeah but institutions are buying. and smart cities. and etc etc and they aren’t making anymore land! and bob said to buy now before it’s too late ... and ...

ignore all that. it’s going to pop. and when it does it will happen quickly. overnight.
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FACTORS:

1. Evictions not being allowed during COVID.
2. Mortgage forbearance during COVID
3. Low real estate INVENTORY
4. Black Rock and other super investors buying up houses at high prices
5. Chinese investors buying real estate
6. Huge number of millenials buying their first home
7. People working from home during COVID

ADD SOME FACTORS TO THIS LIST THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF


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1 & 2 will end on June 30th. At this moment, these will not be extended again.

6. This trend is actually decreasing.

7. This is also ending as restrictions lift.
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Do you have a link about the JUNE 30th date?
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It won’t go down, even after the vaxxed die off. Why? They told us their plans “You will own nothing and be happy about it”

They don’t intend on anyone except the elite class to own property anymore. That’s why pension funds and swamp companies like blackrock are buying every property they can get.

The idea is we will all be renting from them.
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They aint making any more of it.

And they don't want us peons having any of it.

Agenda 21.

Packed and stacked.
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Re: POLL: WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?
acreages and land parcels will continue to go up in value as everybody that can afford it is fleeing out of the citys...

The burbs and inner city shit will be the first to fall in price...as always...

real land and acerage never losses its value...there is only so much of it...
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With the number of people who are going to die in the next 2 years from the vaccine and society collapsing, I think it could affect the market, but probably not quite as much as the Chinese/Russian invasion


You are going to want to be mobile and self sufficient as possible. You need to be able to move quickly and low profile. Be prepared to end up on foot because you will

Sell those fucking homes and get prepared while you still can
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The 40 year mortgage is about to be rolled out. Prices will continue to go up.

California is already putting the burden on the US tazed taxpayer. Who says it stops at rent?

Prices going up.
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The 40 year mortgage is about to be rolled out. Prices will continue to go up.

California is already putting the burden on the US tazed taxpayer. Who says it stops at rent?

Prices going up.
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40 yr mortgage? no shit?
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POLL: OVERALL, WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?

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Not making more product always going up thank god!!
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Lower. The crash will manifest before then. It'll be the pop of all bubbles. DYODD of course.

He's a chart of the DOW, converted to easy mode for everyone to read.

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So if history is repeating, then they will go up for about 1.5-2 years and then everything crashes.
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Re: POLL: WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?
The 40 year mortgage is about to be rolled out. Prices will continue to go up.

California is already putting the burden on the US tazed taxpayer. Who says it stops at rent?

Prices going up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23740487


You can give people a 60 year mortgage in California and it won't save their market from collapsing. Why? The entire state is collapsing. Look at San Francisco. Look at the schools. Look at the rising crime. As George Carlin said, it's becoming a big steaming ball of shit.

And this idea that the "bubble will never burst" is laughable. They say "this time will be different" every time before a big crash. Read Benjamin Graham's books and you will find the answer. When everyone is rushing to buy something, that is your sign to avoid it at all costs. When no one is buying something, that is your sign that you should buy.

TLDR: The crash is coming to the bubble cities in blue states.

Last Edited by StayCurious on 06/25/2021 08:08 PM
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Re: POLL: WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?
Keep increasing i bet. Everyone will expect a crash but that crash will never happen. Real estate to the moon!
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No - hyper-inflation to the moon. Good if you own some. Not so much if you don’t.
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Re: POLL: WILL REAL ESTATE KEEP INCREASING IN PRICE, OR LOWER IN PRICE OVER The NEXT 12 MONTH?
The 40 year mortgage is about to be rolled out. Prices will continue to go up.

California is already putting the burden on the US tazed taxpayer. Who says it stops at rent?

Prices going up.
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Fuck it. Let's go generational, fuck years. Plus, they can adjust that mortgage every year based upon current property value.

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