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Agent 99
User ID: 77082640 United States 04/12/2021 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karma question: Quoting: BRIEF If a person was helping an old lady across the street and she tripped over your foot, fell in the road and got her head squished by a bus, is that still good karma for trying to help or bad karma for squishing all her brains out onto the road? I don’t do the karma stuff but just for arguments sake. Your intentions were honorable. Your karma was good. Her destiny was between her and the bus. You are not responsible for her death. Yes. Virtue. If our actions are outside the triangle then it's virtuous action and not drama/ego. Ego, id, and super-ego = Karpman. Maturity = virtue. |
FelinesAmongUs
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BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 04/12/2021 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was your clumsiness, she is just an old lady. This guilt has been with you for some time hasn't it. Let it out you are in a safe space now Accidents happen, one cannot judge based on a mishap... PS. This is a made up scenario to illustrate the flaws in karma No old ladies were harmed in the making of this scenario I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
FelinesAmongUs
User ID: 78336987 Australia 04/12/2021 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Accidents happen, one cannot judge based on a mishap... Quoting: BRIEF PS. This is a made up scenario to illustrate the flaws in karma No old ladies were harmed in the making of this scenario If she was my relative, I wouldn't blame you for her death or generate any hostility about getting revenge, but I wouldn't exactly be showering you with flowers over it. It's like if I bumped into you serving you coffee and you fell over the coffee table and smashed your glasses and broke your arm. You are not going to be like "I'm going to buy you some drinks over that because you had such a nice intention". Think of karma in a more realistic way, and it makes more sense. |
Fossy
User ID: 79516540 United States 04/12/2021 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your intentions were honorable. Your karma was good. Her destiny was between her and the bus. Quoting: Fossy I just threw a tennis ball at your head but it's good karma for me because I was trying to teach you a valuable lesson, your karma is between you and the tennis ball. You see that is an invalid argument because you intentionally intervened in the tennis ball and my head. Your premise was the old lady tripped accidentally over Brief’s foot. He did not intentionally trip her. Not the same thing at all. Making sammiches great again! USA! USA! USA! |
Fossy
User ID: 79516540 United States 04/12/2021 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was your clumsiness, she is just an old lady. This guilt has been with you for some time hasn't it. Let it out you are in a safe space now Accidents happen, one cannot judge based on a mishap... PS. This is a made up scenario to illustrate the flaws in karma No old ladies were harmed in the making of this scenario Making sammiches great again! USA! USA! USA! |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 04/12/2021 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Accidents happen, one cannot judge based on a mishap... Quoting: BRIEF PS. This is a made up scenario to illustrate the flaws in karma No old ladies were harmed in the making of this scenario If she was my relative, I wouldn't blame you for her death or generate any hostility about getting revenge, but I wouldn't exactly be showering you with flowers over it. It's like if I bumped into you serving you coffee and you fell over the coffee table and smashed your glasses and broke your arm. You are not going to be like "I'm going to buy you some drinks over that because you had such a nice intention". Think of karma in a more realistic way, and it makes more sense. No good deed goes unpunished, therefore why help someone in the first place? I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
FelinesAmongUs
User ID: 78336987 Australia 04/12/2021 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Accidents happen, one cannot judge based on a mishap... Quoting: BRIEF PS. This is a made up scenario to illustrate the flaws in karma No old ladies were harmed in the making of this scenario If she was my relative, I wouldn't blame you for her death or generate any hostility about getting revenge, but I wouldn't exactly be showering you with flowers over it. It's like if I bumped into you serving you coffee and you fell over the coffee table and smashed your glasses and broke your arm. You are not going to be like "I'm going to buy you some drinks over that because you had such a nice intention". Think of karma in a more realistic way, and it makes more sense. No good deed goes unpunished, therefore why help someone in the first place? To be honest I just enjoyed making up a scenario where you had a fall this time. |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 04/12/2021 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Accidents happen, one cannot judge based on a mishap... Quoting: BRIEF PS. This is a made up scenario to illustrate the flaws in karma No old ladies were harmed in the making of this scenario If she was my relative, I wouldn't blame you for her death or generate any hostility about getting revenge, but I wouldn't exactly be showering you with flowers over it. It's like if I bumped into you serving you coffee and you fell over the coffee table and smashed your glasses and broke your arm. You are not going to be like "I'm going to buy you some drinks over that because you had such a nice intention". Think of karma in a more realistic way, and it makes more sense. No good deed goes unpunished, therefore why help someone in the first place? To be honest I just enjoyed making up a scenario where you had a fall this time. I positioned myself in a vulnerable position to illustrate a point, and thanks for playing I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
BRIEF
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Agent 99
User ID: 77082640 United States 04/12/2021 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was your clumsiness, she is just an old lady. This guilt has been with you for some time hasn't it. Let it out you are in a safe space now I don't think it's guilt. He had a poor lapse of judgement thinking that the old lady wasn't clumsy. Someone with better virtue would have given the old lady a better interrogation. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79292370 United States 04/12/2021 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dunno. Quoting: Builder of the Adytum The world might be a little better off with a few more (real) heroes. Just sayin' I hear you. The human that walks upon a woman getting beat up by a group of men that goes to her aide is not a hero, this one is a moral being that responds to the call of service. A Ghandi that dedicates their whole soul to Good is not a savior, they are a pure Soul that is responding to the call of service. A hero or a savior that carries, conscious or unconscious, the desire to be praised for their works is operating in a lower level of consciousness compared to simply being in full self-responsibility. We have few examples, very few, of humans existing in full self-responsibility. Girls and boys in adult bodies traumatized in varying degrees, recreating dramas in relationships endleslly avoiding addressing the need of engaging in inner subtle work. The value of rites of passage in real cultures could not be more self evident when held in contrast to existence in an all but demoralized society. All to say I agree. The world thirsts for empowered free thinking self knowing unshakable forces of love and truth. They do exist. Many are awakening. Many are beginning to follow the still inner voice that is asking of the self to heal, to transform, to transcend... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79292370 United States 04/12/2021 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VICTIM Quoting: DancingThought PERPETRATOR/PERSUCTOR HERO/SAVIOR Toggling throughout these three roles, all day long... The victim's profit is pity. The perpetrators is power. The heroes is praise. All... day.... long...... See for yourself... Unless you've completed the self-work necessary to graduate from this loop. The solution is self-responsibility. Graduation from boys/girls to men/women. Becoming fully functioning beings that are aligned in mind, body, and spirit. Western culture lacks, especially these days, rites of passage whereby boys/girls become men/women. For us... it's cigarettes and alcohol.... good luck! For shamanic cultures for instance it's 7 days alone in nature... Try that on for size. That's all amazing advice. thank you Thank you. Hope you might appreciate the modality. I may give the Harald Kautz a re-listen. I do not agree with everything he says. I deeply appreciate his apparent work in the fourth ray area. His development in mind body and spirit is palpable to the sensitive. Some of his talks are transcendental if you ask me. He is a trippy one also as his initial offerings to the public were centered around geo engineering, transhumanism, ai, and black goo. He later shifted his focus to solely matters of the Heart and development ot the mind/body/spirit. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79292370 United States 04/12/2021 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of this also comes down to setting & respecting boundaries. It's amazing how many of us do not know what boundaries even are let alone know that we are allowed to have the them & ask that they be respected. I think that is a lot of what goes into the "drama triangle".....it's a situation where boundaries are not being set or respected....for different reasons for each person in the triangle. Whatever you call it tho, it's an important topic that almost everyone should explore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44883436 Yes. I agree. Boundaries are a thing many of us learn the hard way. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79292370 United States 04/12/2021 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I had to do was block the Persecutor/Perpetrator and put them on my Ignore List Quoting: Agent Kitty While no one wants to be the victim of the Perpetrator, victims can also suck dry the life force out of you if you're not careful with rightly dispensing your compassion. Unless the victims are willing to see the disfunctions in their life and make decision to face it, they'll latched onto those who play helper role and destroy both if the helpers are not careful. Yes boundaries but also just acceptance. Humanity is showing a very dark side lately. There are a lot of really sick, evil haters in this world, who take pleasure and almost euphoria in hurting people. More than I thought would actually partake in these activities. They have no conscience, no empathy, no morality or ethics--it's very present even here on GLP. It actually makes me wonder if they are even human. They are making it a very sad and dark planet. I hear that, agent kitty. It appears 'they' are attempting to manifest hell on earth. Some say we're right at the end of a great cycle. I guess they run 25,000 years or something. The Yugas seem to not coincide with the precession of the equinox thought forms but I'm pretty ignorant to these things. The Mayan long count that measures consciousness is in this mix... Some say that towards the end of a cycle, when you have a collective of third density beings predominately failing the lessons of love/acceptance/forgiveness, this is what we get... We also happen to have some dedicated service to self negatives which seek control/dominion over everyone else... I appreciate the perspective of that the perfected one is the one that has made perfect use of the catalyst that life has provided this one. Making proper use of catalyst is critical if one is to progress at all on ones Path. For me an example might be a recorruing experience in ones life in the area of relationships. Life serves to people what it serves with great purpose and precision. Periods of lack or not getting what one wants offers specific catalyst as to help the individual learn and grow. Maybe this is a poor example. Another might be the ongoing experience of hate towards others, or more subtly judgement / lack-of-acceptance. This is rampant. This one's continued catalyst in my view is inviting the individual to find love/acceptance/forgiveness for self/other so that one might grow in the area of love/wisdom... Tribulation can etomologically be traced to a word that means "pressure"... Squeezing... No doubt in my view we are all being squeezed, greatly. The pressure is building to such a degree it feels like an explosion is inevitable. Cataclysm? I don't know. These are Biblical times after all :-) |