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Over 400,000 WHITE MEN Died Freeing Black Slaves During the Civil War ! Reparations?

 
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Over 400,000 WHITE MEN Died Freeing Black Slaves During the Civil War ! Reparations?
I never hear anyone discuss the sacrifice and contribution that White Men of the UNION ARMY made in freeing the Black slaves during the Civil War 1861-1865.

It is estimated that almost 400,000 Union Soldiers died during the conflict, and of course 99.9% of them were white.
Many more were maimed with amputations due to the brutal force of the ammunition used during the war.

Everyone complains about confederate flags and statues of confederate soldiers, but no one ever mentions the fact that if it was not for WHITE MEN, who believed that slavery was evil and all men were created equal. Enough to fight and DIE for the rights of other men.

So if you want to talk about reparations, at least if you were a slave, you were set free after the war.

If you were a dead Union Soldier, you got nothing but a stone cross in a battle field cemetery.

.... so ya, lets blame white people for everything.
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that's actually a great point.

nice one
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sadly, nobody cares about history
if they did they'd know that all great empires
fall from within
Always choose dangerous freedom over safe slavery
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sadly, nobody cares about history
if they did they'd know that all great empires
fall from within
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That's why history repeats.
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sadly, nobody cares about history
if they did they'd know that all great empires
fall from within
 Quoting: Danger Dan


That's why history repeats.
 Quoting: Petrus


So I guess you think that 400,000 White Men are now willing to die for Black reparations ?

I doubt that history will be repeated.
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Re: Over 400,000 WHITE MEN Died Freeing Black Slaves During the Civil War ! Reparations?
I never hear anyone discuss the sacrifice and contribution that White Men of the UNION ARMY made in freeing the Black slaves during the Civil War 1861-1865.

It is estimated that almost 400,000 Union Soldiers died during the conflict, and of course 99.9% of them were white.
Many more were maimed with amputations due to the brutal force of the ammunition used during the war.

Everyone complains about confederate flags and statues of confederate soldiers, but no one ever mentions the fact that if it was not for WHITE MEN, who believed that slavery was evil and all men were created equal. Enough to fight and DIE for the rights of other men.

So if you want to talk about reparations, at least if you were a slave, you were set free after the war.

If you were a dead Union Soldier, you got nothing but a stone cross in a battle field cemetery.

.... so ya, lets blame white people for everything.
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Re: Over 400,000 WHITE MEN Died Freeing Black Slaves During the Civil War ! Reparations?
Not only that, but ~2 million soldiers fought for the union.

there were 393,975 slave owners in the United States in 1860.

Some might argue that it wasn't only the slave owner that benefited, but their spouse and children as well. I would say that the spouse would bear responsibility, but not the children as they would have no say in the matter. So conservatively just assuming each slave owner had a spouse, we'll double the number to reach 787950 slave owners.

So the average white person in the US is over twice as likely to have an ancestor that fought to free the slaves than to have an ancestor that owned slaves.

Not that it makes any sense for people to be responsible for the actions of their ancestors, but even if it DID make sense, how would that make all whites guilty?

It doesn't. This is not about logic or fairness, it's about racial hate
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The War of Northern Aggression was not about slavery.
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The civil war had absolutely nothing to do with slavery. Both sides were financed by the satanists/ banking cartels to bankrupt and destroy/ divide america.
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In these times the bottom line is THEY WERE WHITE and they deserved dying somehow, all that privilege it don't matter what their aim was they deserve to be shit on because they were white.

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Dumbasses. They died for nothing.
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A more accurate estimation is 600,000.
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I never hear anyone discuss the sacrifice and contribution that White Men of the UNION ARMY made in freeing the Black slaves during the Civil War 1861-1865.

It is estimated that almost 400,000 Union Soldiers died during the conflict, and of course 99.9% of them were white.
Many more were maimed with amputations due to the brutal force of the ammunition used during the war.

Everyone complains about confederate flags and statues of confederate soldiers, but no one ever mentions the fact that if it was not for WHITE MEN, who believed that slavery was evil and all men were created equal. Enough to fight and DIE for the rights of other men.

So if you want to talk about reparations, at least if you were a slave, you were set free after the war.

If you were a dead Union Soldier, you got nothing but a stone cross in a battle field cemetery.

.... so ya, lets blame white people for everything.
 Quoting: Plants Constant


And another thing , most slave traders were black tribes who sold competing tribes after war capturing them ....

And the farm slave managers were also black ....

who beat the slaves ? other black , who raped their wemen ....mandingos as punishment for under performance ....

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that's actually a great point.

nice one
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It's a point that has been made since directly after the civil war. Nothing new.
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This is the real depressing stuff. So many people died fighting slavery, tyranny, fascism so we can all grow up free and their deaths have become completely meaningless in the span of a few years and worse the beneficiaries of their sacrifices laugh and spit on them daily, ungrateful.
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that's actually a great point.

nice one
 Quoting: kandee


It's a point that has been made since directly after the civil war. Nothing new.
 Quoting: Bill the Butcher

bump well made again.
Because truly, we are all people of color, many who tan well. We all have Black, Brown and Asian genes:
The few Pinkies that were sold, those other colored humans as slaves, were following in the footsteps of generations of European, African and countless other societies throughout history. Most often those practices followed wars with conquering nations using the
Prisoners of war, as labor and to sell to make money for the cost of those wars.
Many Europeans came to this Nation to avoid
the sufferage of those systems. Irish slaves were prisoners, street fodder or orphans, women who lost loved ones in their wars. Eventually anyone scooped up could be sold. Rumors of folks being stolen away from their
Beds.
That being said........Americans of every color and Nationality who migrated after those laws were changed, and every generation that has lived since.....owe no one for the Supposed Debts you envision as a prize.
No one living today owes for imagined “debts”. If this were true, every Nation who practiced slavery and every Nation still participating in the practice.....would owe every other nations’ Civilized world practices. You
living in this time, in this now, are owed nothing more than anyone else. You were never a slave. If it could be a debt anyone owes anyone, they should receive a ticket to return to the land their forebears came from.
Our Families fought the Civil War, that eventually ended the practice.
And......Women are not slaves to their menfolk. tomato
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I hate to break the bad news to everyone but the vast majority of enlisted men on both sides were not fighting for any ideals or principles. They were fighting for money.

They grew up dirt poor on a farm sharing a modest cabin with 10 other family members, engaged in back breaking labor since the age of 9 or 10. They ate biscuits or cornbread for almost every meal, maybe a little meat a few times each year, and small servings of vegetables they grew themselves. 75% of them were illiterate.

Joining the army meant a new set of clothes, 3 square meals a day, not pushing a plow, and getting paid actual money. They shot at whoever the officers told them to shoot at. They didn't ask why, they didn't ponder philosophy, they didn't care.

The only people on the battlefield fighting for principles were the officers, who were generally all wealthy. The principle they were fighting for was maintaining and increasing their wealth and status.

And the politicians who started it each sat a home fat, happy and safe. Sound familiar?

Later generations romanticized the Civil War into some noble struggle for the soul of a nation, but it was just a fucking war like every other war.

I may sound like a communist trying to stir up shit but I assure you I am not. Far from it.
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I never hear anyone discuss the sacrifice and contribution that White Men of the UNION ARMY made in freeing the Black slaves during the Civil War 1861-1865.

It is estimated that almost 400,000 Union Soldiers died during the conflict, and of course 99.9% of them were white.
Many more were maimed with amputations due to the brutal force of the ammunition used during the war.

Everyone complains about confederate flags and statues of confederate soldiers, but no one ever mentions the fact that if it was not for WHITE MEN, who believed that slavery was evil and all men were created equal. Enough to fight and DIE for the rights of other men.

So if you want to talk about reparations, at least if you were a slave, you were set free after the war.

If you were a dead Union Soldier, you got nothing but a stone cross in a battle field cemetery.

.... so ya, lets blame white people for everything.
 Quoting: Plants Constant


EXACTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!

Sooooo sick of all this black shit!!!!
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I never hear anyone discuss the sacrifice and contribution that White Men of the UNION ARMY made in freeing the Black slaves during the Civil War 1861-1865.

It is estimated that almost 400,000 Union Soldiers died during the conflict, and of course 99.9% of them were white.
Many more were maimed with amputations due to the brutal force of the ammunition used during the war.

Everyone complains about confederate flags and statues of confederate soldiers, but no one ever mentions the fact that if it was not for WHITE MEN, who believed that slavery was evil and all men were created equal. Enough to fight and DIE for the rights of other men.

So if you want to talk about reparations, at least if you were a slave, you were set free after the war.

If you were a dead Union Soldier, you got nothing but a stone cross in a battle field cemetery.

.... so ya, lets blame white people for everything.
 Quoting: Plants Constant


And 99% of those Yankee bastards would have knocked your head off if you told them they were fighting to free slaves,they were "saving" the union by conquering the South and forcing us back in, so they could loot us.
The only ad thing was that we didn't kill more of the sons of bitches.
There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth!
If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South.
We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid;
We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade.

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I hate to break the bad news to everyone but the vast majority of enlisted men on both sides were not fighting for any ideals or principles. They were fighting for money.

They grew up dirt poor on a farm sharing a modest cabin with 10 other family members, engaged in back breaking labor since the age of 9 or 10. They ate biscuits or cornbread for almost every meal, maybe a little meat a few times each year, and small servings of vegetables they grew themselves. 75% of them were illiterate.

Joining the army meant a new set of clothes, 3 square meals a day, not pushing a plow, and getting paid actual money. They shot at whoever the officers told them to shoot at. They didn't ask why, they didn't ponder philosophy, they didn't care.

The only people on the battlefield fighting for principles were the officers, who were generally all wealthy. The principle they were fighting for was maintaining and increasing their wealth and status.

And the politicians who started it each sat a home fat, happy and safe. Sound familiar?

Later generations romanticized the Civil War into some noble struggle for the soul of a nation, but it was just a fucking war like every other war.

I may sound like a communist trying to stir up shit but I assure you I am not. Far from it.
 Quoting: Turd Ferguson, Jr.


Confederate soldiers were fighting because we were invaded by an enemy bent on murder, rape and robbery.
The Yankees were barbarians on the level of the Huns.
There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth!
If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South.
We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid;
We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade.

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The thing is the Union Army didn’t fight to free slaves. They fought to keep the South from being independent. In fact when people in NYC thought the war turned into freeing slaves they had a race riot and lunched a bunch of blacks.

The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in areas not under Union control. So the Yankee slave states of New Jersey and Delaware had slaves throughout the war. Slavery didn’t end there until the 13th Amendment, which they both voted against. The proclamation even exempted Confederate counties that were under Union occupation. It was just a propaganda move. The British also freed the slaves during the American Revolution. The hope is always to cause a slave revolt to defeat the enemy from inside.
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I hate to break the bad news to everyone but the vast majority of enlisted men on both sides were not fighting for any ideals or principles. They were fighting for money.

They grew up dirt poor on a farm sharing a modest cabin with 10 other family members, engaged in back breaking labor since the age of 9 or 10. They ate biscuits or cornbread for almost every meal, maybe a little meat a few times each year, and small servings of vegetables they grew themselves. 75% of them were illiterate.

Joining the army meant a new set of clothes, 3 square meals a day, not pushing a plow, and getting paid actual money. They shot at whoever the officers told them to shoot at. They didn't ask why, they didn't ponder philosophy, they didn't care.

The only people on the battlefield fighting for principles were the officers, who were generally all wealthy. The principle they were fighting for was maintaining and increasing their wealth and status.

And the politicians who started it each sat a home fat, happy and safe. Sound familiar?

Later generations romanticized the Civil War into some noble struggle for the soul of a nation, but it was just a fucking war like every other war.

I may sound like a communist trying to stir up shit but I assure you I am not. Far from it.
 Quoting: Turd Ferguson, Jr.


You’re not really wrong. The same is true for the Revolutionary War. The army was good work.

However, I do think for the Confederates they were fighting to defend their native soil against an invading army. As it turns out the Confederates had a legitimate reason to fight the Union whereas the Revolution was mostly illegitimate. The Confederate argument was based on fighting for the same principles that the Revolution was allegedly fought for.
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There are far more slaves now in the USA than ever in history! Human trafficking is at epic proportions and it is in every city no matter the size. Child sex slaves, housekeepers , working in drug labs, prostitution and web cams. We have a biblical crisis going on right now!

Fuck this reparations distraction, focus on the here and now! Get involved get aware
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I never hear anyone discuss the sacrifice and contribution that White Men of the UNION ARMY made in freeing the Black slaves during the Civil War 1861-1865.

It is estimated that almost 400,000 Union Soldiers died during the conflict, and of course 99.9% of them were white.
Many more were maimed with amputations due to the brutal force of the ammunition used during the war.

Everyone complains about confederate flags and statues of confederate soldiers, but no one ever mentions the fact that if it was not for WHITE MEN, who believed that slavery was evil and all men were created equal. Enough to fight and DIE for the rights of other men.

So if you want to talk about reparations, at least if you were a slave, you were set free after the war.

If you were a dead Union Soldier, you got nothing but a stone cross in a battle field cemetery.

.... so ya, lets blame white people for everything.
 Quoting: Plants Constant


... reparations are for slavery, not the war. What were those "union soldiers" doing for 3 centuries before the war? Soldiers follow orders, period. Your entire perspective ignores what reparations are for. That's like saying every soldier that died at world war 2 is entitled to J00-ish reparations.
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There are more slaves in Africa today than there ever were in the United States at any time. Our people decided of our own volition that slavery was wrong, where as their people evidently never came to the same conclusion. Why does the left never talk about that?

There's also the fact that hordes of white and black people were made slaves in the middle east, and subject to all kinds of abuse. Why does the left never talk about that?

It's almost like the left only wants to demonize whitey, and so they cherry pick things to make white people look like the devil while ignoring anything that would make non-whites look bad. To hell with them all! At this point, I consider anybody who is for reparations to be a domestic enemy.

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The War of Northern Aggression was not about slavery.
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Nor were Union soldiers fighting to end slavery. Fact was they fought to preserve the Union, not free slaves. Had that been known at the outset of the war many would not have joined the Army. Southerners weren't fighting to preserve slavery either, some fought for freedom others fought to keep Northern troops from burning and looting their homes and towns. Lincoln was an opportunist and the emancipation proclamation was aimed at tying down Confederate troops.
Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America.
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I never hear anyone discuss the sacrifice and contribution that White Men of the UNION ARMY made in freeing the Black slaves during the Civil War 1861-1865.

It is estimated that almost 400,000 Union Soldiers died during the conflict, and of course 99.9% of them were white.
Many more were maimed with amputations due to the brutal force of the ammunition used during the war.

Everyone complains about confederate flags and statues of confederate soldiers, but no one ever mentions the fact that if it was not for WHITE MEN, who believed that slavery was evil and all men were created equal. Enough to fight and DIE for the rights of other men.

So if you want to talk about reparations, at least if you were a slave, you were set free after the war.

If you were a dead Union Soldier, you got nothing but a stone cross in a battle field cemetery.

.... so ya, lets blame white people for everything.
 Quoting: Plants Constant




Well..if the civil war was fought over slavery they would get some credit. But you and many others don't know history.
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Good point, OP.
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The Melanin People know they have the advantage right now.

Guilt-ridden liberals are falling over themselves trying to placate the primates.

Reparations, color-specific rights, fatter SNAP payments, freedom to pound on
Asian people, words only the Chocos can use, etc..

Fuck em.

When I lived in West Africa, the locals repeatedly told me they do not want
American blacks in their country.

Go figure..
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I never hear anyone discuss the sacrifice and contribution that White Men of the UNION ARMY made in freeing the Black slaves during the Civil War 1861-1865.

It is estimated that almost 400,000 Union Soldiers died during the conflict, and of course 99.9% of them were white.
Many more were maimed with amputations due to the brutal force of the ammunition used during the war.

Everyone complains about confederate flags and statues of confederate soldiers, but no one ever mentions the fact that if it was not for WHITE MEN, who believed that slavery was evil and all men were created equal. Enough to fight and DIE for the rights of other men.

So if you want to talk about reparations, at least if you were a slave, you were set free after the war.

If you were a dead Union Soldier, you got nothing but a stone cross in a battle field cemetery.

.... so ya, lets blame white people for everything.
 Quoting: Plants Constant


very true. good post





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