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13 Phoenician Families and the Divine Right to Rule

 
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the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players.

even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization.

when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one.
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the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players.

even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization.

when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one.
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what is called ancient egypt was little more than a Phoenician graveyard back in the day.
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and Divine Right to Rule comes from the fact that I rule without your permission but only by God's Grace.
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Cultures come and cultures go. They don't have to take the whole world with them.
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I found what appears to be a well researched article below that provides a lot of info on the subject of the 13 Phoenician families and the black nobility going back thousands of years and then taking us to the present as you scroll further down the article.


 Quoting: Bodisafa

Where does this idea of "Phoenician" families come from? Who says you are still a Phoenician after 3000 years?

I also fear there might be some disinformation around about that "black nobility". The mysterious "black nobility" might not go as far back as claimed and as you seem to believe. According to what I did read about them a certain moment in Italy the "black nobility" were those who distinguished themselves from the rest by mourning a certain change (going together with a loss, I presume) and since that time trying to maintain or keep alive a tradition of some sorts. I understand this does not go as far back as 1000 or maybe even 500 years.
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the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players.

even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization.

when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


what is called ancient egypt was little more than a Phoenician graveyard back in the day.
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Dammit, if ever there was disinfo this is certainly a beautiful example.
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Cultures come and cultures go. They don't have to take the whole world with them.
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the only thing that goes with the Phoenicians is what belongs to the Phoenicians.
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the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players.

even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization.

when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


what is called ancient egypt was little more than a Phoenician graveyard back in the day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

Dammit, if ever there was disinfo this is certainly a beautiful example.
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its no wonder contemporary egyptians have no trouble digging up the graves and selling tickets to view the bodies.

it ain't their ancestors they're digging up.
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the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players.

even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization.

when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization.
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the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players.

even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization.

when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


what is called ancient egypt was little more than a Phoenician graveyard back in the day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

Dammit, if ever there was disinfo this is certainly a beautiful example.
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its no wonder contemporary egyptians have no trouble digging up the graves and selling tickets to view the bodies.

it ain't their ancestors they're digging up.
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What point are you trying to make... if any?
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Cultures come and cultures go. They don't have to take the whole world with them.
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the only thing that goes with the Phoenicians is what belongs to the Phoenicians.
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They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry.
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the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players.

even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization.

when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control.
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Cultures come and cultures go. They don't have to take the whole world with them.
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the only thing that goes with the Phoenicians is what belongs to the Phoenicians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry.
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it belongs to them right now. we're even using their script to commmunicate.
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if not for the phoenicians you wouldn't even know what a Family is.
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if not for the phoenicians you wouldn't even know what a Family is.
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you wouldn't know what it means to Rule. nor anything of the divine.
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i could post a explanation of what is God and you would deny it.
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Phonecicians ruled via phonetics

And purple is their sacred color
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Oh please.

rofl

stop that BS.
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if not for the phoenicians you wouldn't even know what a Family is.
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you wouldn't know what it means to Rule. nor anything of the divine.
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Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else.
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if not for the phoenicians you wouldn't even know what a Family is.
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you wouldn't know what it means to Rule. nor anything of the divine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else.
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see what I mean, people.

angry monkey.
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the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players.

even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization.

when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

Well then, go on. Prove they are the source of civilization.

lmao

Maybe some families of their descendants are in control... doesn't mean it was them who were "the source of civilization".

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
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if not for the phoenicians you wouldn't even know what a Family is.
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you wouldn't know what it means to Rule. nor anything of the divine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


see what I mean, people.

angry monkey.
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Not angry. Just depressed. One would hope a culture would have moved beyond sacrificing their children. Or other people's. If you want to believe God gave you the world, then destroy it if you can't have it. This plan predated my birth, and sometimes family doesn't act like it. You failed a lot of people. A lot.
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the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players.

even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization.

when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

Well then, go on. Prove they are the source of civilization.

lmao

Maybe some families of their descendants are in control... doesn't mean it was them who were "the source of civilization".

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


civilization, properly defined...includes 3 things.

Written Word.
Centralized Government and Laws.
Urbanized living.

all Phoenician.
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No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

Well then, go on. Prove they are the source of civilization.

lmao

Maybe some families of their descendants are in control... doesn't mean it was them who were "the source of civilization".

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


civilization, properly defined...includes 3 things.

Written Word.
Centralized Government and Laws.
Urbanized living.

all Phoenician.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


Go away, DRVIP.
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you wouldn't know what it means to Rule. nor anything of the divine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


see what I mean, people.

angry monkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


Not angry. Just depressed. One would hope a culture would have moved beyond sacrificing their children. Or other people's. If you want to believe God gave you the world, then destroy it if you can't have it. This plan predated my birth, and sometimes family doesn't act like it. You failed a lot of people. A lot.
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your failure wasn't caused by anything but yourself. your depression, self imposed.
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Cultures come and cultures go. They don't have to take the whole world with them.
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the only thing that goes with the Phoenicians is what belongs to the Phoenicians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


it belongs to them right now. we're even using their script to commmunicate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

So? Their script was adopted/adapted by the Greeks.

It isn't even the Greek script we are using. It is the Roman one. The Latin script.

Civilization CERTAINLY DOES NOT belong to "them" even now.

It belongs to us.
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if you have no Law and abide by it, you are not civilized.

your March 4 shit...demonstrates your lack of adherence to any law.

yours is the law of the hoard, the antithesis of civilization.
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Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


see what I mean, people.

angry monkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


Not angry. Just depressed. One would hope a culture would have moved beyond sacrificing their children. Or other people's. If you want to believe God gave you the world, then destroy it if you can't have it. This plan predated my birth, and sometimes family doesn't act like it. You failed a lot of people. A lot.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


your failure wasn't caused by anything but yourself. your depression, self imposed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


Rulers are supposed to protect the people they rule. I'd say you failed millions of people. You are good at protecting bad ones. That's what depresses me. But again, go away DRVIP.
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the only thing that goes with the Phoenicians is what belongs to the Phoenicians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


it belongs to them right now. we're even using their script to commmunicate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

So? Their script was adopted/adapted by the Greeks.

It isn't even the Greek script we are using. It is the Roman one. The Latin script.

Civilization CERTAINLY DOES NOT belong to "them" even now.

It belongs to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


as in 'us' do you mean the people that desecreted the seat of Government only 3 weeks ago?

by 'us' you mean the ones that plot destruction and murder?
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No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

Well then, go on. Prove they are the source of civilization.

lmao

Maybe some families of their descendants are in control... doesn't mean it was them who were "the source of civilization".

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


civilization, properly defined...includes 3 things.

Written Word.
Centralized Government and Laws.
Urbanized living.

all Phoenician.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

One simple word:

Nope.

Urbanizd living existed in the Indus valley long before the PHoenicians had it (but we don't even know where they came from, they are known as the "Sea People", so how do you EVEN KNOW THEY KNEW URBANIZATION?).

The old Vedic scriptures were written down, long before the Phoenicians. And centralized government and laws (and stuff, I presume) certainly existed before the Phoenicians. There is no reason to assume the Phoenicians "invented" it.

Why is "centralized government" such a thing with you Americans BTW? Centralized government comes naturally with urbanization. The first centralized governments were city-states. They were kingdoms.
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They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry.
 Quoting: IfYouInsist


it belongs to them right now. we're even using their script to commmunicate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562

So? Their script was adopted/adapted by the Greeks.

It isn't even the Greek script we are using. It is the Roman one. The Latin script.

Civilization CERTAINLY DOES NOT belong to "them" even now.

It belongs to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010


as in 'us' do you mean the people that desecreted the seat of Government only 3 weeks ago?

by 'us' you mean the ones that plot destruction and murder?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562


That is exactly what he means.





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