13 Phoenician Families and the Divine Right to Rule | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78990562 United States 01/25/2021 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization. when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78990562 United States 01/25/2021 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization. when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one. what is called ancient egypt was little more than a Phoenician graveyard back in the day. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79451010 United States 01/25/2021 06:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found what appears to be a well researched article below that provides a lot of info on the subject of the 13 Phoenician families and the black nobility going back thousands of years and then taking us to the present as you scroll further down the article. Quoting: Bodisafa Where does this idea of "Phoenician" families come from? Who says you are still a Phoenician after 3000 years? I also fear there might be some disinformation around about that "black nobility". The mysterious "black nobility" might not go as far back as claimed and as you seem to believe. According to what I did read about them a certain moment in Italy the "black nobility" were those who distinguished themselves from the rest by mourning a certain change (going together with a loss, I presume) and since that time trying to maintain or keep alive a tradition of some sorts. I understand this does not go as far back as 1000 or maybe even 500 years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79451010 United States 01/25/2021 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization. when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one. what is called ancient egypt was little more than a Phoenician graveyard back in the day. Dammit, if ever there was disinfo this is certainly a beautiful example. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78990562 United States 01/25/2021 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization. when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one. what is called ancient egypt was little more than a Phoenician graveyard back in the day. Dammit, if ever there was disinfo this is certainly a beautiful example. its no wonder contemporary egyptians have no trouble digging up the graves and selling tickets to view the bodies. it ain't their ancestors they're digging up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79451010 United States 01/25/2021 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization. when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one. No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79451010 United States 01/25/2021 06:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization. when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one. what is called ancient egypt was little more than a Phoenician graveyard back in the day. Dammit, if ever there was disinfo this is certainly a beautiful example. its no wonder contemporary egyptians have no trouble digging up the graves and selling tickets to view the bodies. it ain't their ancestors they're digging up. What point are you trying to make... if any? |
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User ID: 79271734 United States 01/25/2021 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cultures come and cultures go. They don't have to take the whole world with them. Quoting: IfYouInsist the only thing that goes with the Phoenicians is what belongs to the Phoenicians. They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78990562 United States 01/25/2021 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization. when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one. No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization. Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78990562 United States 01/25/2021 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cultures come and cultures go. They don't have to take the whole world with them. Quoting: IfYouInsist the only thing that goes with the Phoenicians is what belongs to the Phoenicians. They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry. it belongs to them right now. we're even using their script to commmunicate. |
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User ID: 79271734 United States 01/25/2021 06:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if not for the phoenicians you wouldn't even know what a Family is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 you wouldn't know what it means to Rule. nor anything of the divine. Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78990562 United States 01/25/2021 06:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if not for the phoenicians you wouldn't even know what a Family is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 you wouldn't know what it means to Rule. nor anything of the divine. Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else. see what I mean, people. angry monkey. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79451010 United States 01/25/2021 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization. when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one. No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization. Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control. Well then, go on. Prove they are the source of civilization. Maybe some families of their descendants are in control... doesn't mean it was them who were "the source of civilization". IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. |
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User ID: 79271734 United States 01/25/2021 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if not for the phoenicians you wouldn't even know what a Family is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 you wouldn't know what it means to Rule. nor anything of the divine. Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else. see what I mean, people. angry monkey. Not angry. Just depressed. One would hope a culture would have moved beyond sacrificing their children. Or other people's. If you want to believe God gave you the world, then destroy it if you can't have it. This plan predated my birth, and sometimes family doesn't act like it. You failed a lot of people. A lot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78990562 United States 01/25/2021 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only reason you're talking about Phoenician now is because you can't get back into the game until you truthfully identify the players. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 even the casual student of history realizes it is those called Phoenicians that initiated civilization. when you thought you might be able to wipe them away, you acted as they were never here. now that all your plans have failed hilariously you back at square one. No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization. Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control. Well then, go on. Prove they are the source of civilization. Maybe some families of their descendants are in control... doesn't mean it was them who were "the source of civilization". IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. civilization, properly defined...includes 3 things. Written Word. Centralized Government and Laws. Urbanized living. all Phoenician. |
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User ID: 79271734 United States 01/25/2021 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010 No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization. Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control. Well then, go on. Prove they are the source of civilization. Maybe some families of their descendants are in control... doesn't mean it was them who were "the source of civilization". IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. civilization, properly defined...includes 3 things. Written Word. Centralized Government and Laws. Urbanized living. all Phoenician. Go away, DRVIP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78990562 United States 01/25/2021 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 you wouldn't know what it means to Rule. nor anything of the divine. Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else. see what I mean, people. angry monkey. Not angry. Just depressed. One would hope a culture would have moved beyond sacrificing their children. Or other people's. If you want to believe God gave you the world, then destroy it if you can't have it. This plan predated my birth, and sometimes family doesn't act like it. You failed a lot of people. A lot. your failure wasn't caused by anything but yourself. your depression, self imposed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79451010 United States 01/25/2021 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cultures come and cultures go. They don't have to take the whole world with them. Quoting: IfYouInsist the only thing that goes with the Phoenicians is what belongs to the Phoenicians. They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry. it belongs to them right now. we're even using their script to commmunicate. So? Their script was adopted/adapted by the Greeks. It isn't even the Greek script we are using. It is the Roman one. The Latin script. Civilization CERTAINLY DOES NOT belong to "them" even now. It belongs to us. |
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User ID: 79271734 United States 01/25/2021 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: IfYouInsist Except we aren't communicating. Nothing is being communicated. And family obligates without a corresponding sense of belonging. Always. Rule implies regulation of some sort. This has gotten old, and I'm tired. Whether it is family, rule, or one-way communication, it doesn't matter to me. Go Stasi/Gestapo someplace else. see what I mean, people. angry monkey. Not angry. Just depressed. One would hope a culture would have moved beyond sacrificing their children. Or other people's. If you want to believe God gave you the world, then destroy it if you can't have it. This plan predated my birth, and sometimes family doesn't act like it. You failed a lot of people. A lot. your failure wasn't caused by anything but yourself. your depression, self imposed. Rulers are supposed to protect the people they rule. I'd say you failed millions of people. You are good at protecting bad ones. That's what depresses me. But again, go away DRVIP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78990562 United States 01/25/2021 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78990562 the only thing that goes with the Phoenicians is what belongs to the Phoenicians. They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry. it belongs to them right now. we're even using their script to commmunicate. So? Their script was adopted/adapted by the Greeks. It isn't even the Greek script we are using. It is the Roman one. The Latin script. Civilization CERTAINLY DOES NOT belong to "them" even now. It belongs to us. as in 'us' do you mean the people that desecreted the seat of Government only 3 weeks ago? by 'us' you mean the ones that plot destruction and murder? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79451010 United States 01/25/2021 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79451010 No. They were instrumental in spreading it for a time in a limited region but that's about it. They did not INITIATE civilization. Single handedly they are the source of Civilization. Even to this very day in complete control. Well then, go on. Prove they are the source of civilization. Maybe some families of their descendants are in control... doesn't mean it was them who were "the source of civilization". IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. civilization, properly defined...includes 3 things. Written Word. Centralized Government and Laws. Urbanized living. all Phoenician. One simple word: Nope. Urbanizd living existed in the Indus valley long before the PHoenicians had it (but we don't even know where they came from, they are known as the "Sea People", so how do you EVEN KNOW THEY KNEW URBANIZATION?). The old Vedic scriptures were written down, long before the Phoenicians. And centralized government and laws (and stuff, I presume) certainly existed before the Phoenicians. There is no reason to assume the Phoenicians "invented" it. Why is "centralized government" such a thing with you Americans BTW? Centralized government comes naturally with urbanization. The first centralized governments were city-states. They were kingdoms. |
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User ID: 79271734 United States 01/25/2021 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: IfYouInsist They sacrificed their children. They were traders, and actually created very little. So no, civilization didn't belong to them. Sorry. it belongs to them right now. we're even using their script to commmunicate. So? Their script was adopted/adapted by the Greeks. It isn't even the Greek script we are using. It is the Roman one. The Latin script. Civilization CERTAINLY DOES NOT belong to "them" even now. It belongs to us. as in 'us' do you mean the people that desecreted the seat of Government only 3 weeks ago? by 'us' you mean the ones that plot destruction and murder? That is exactly what he means. |