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Synthetic antibodies? EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENT ON TRUMP? MARK OF THE BEAST?

 
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He took the vaccination, he'll be 100% better by Sunday then they'll go onto promote it..
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So Trump is receiving Regeneron’s polyclonal antibody cocktail coming from the same genetically modified humanized mice I had once used in my own research that got me subpoenaed by Congress and isn’t taking hydroxychloroquine that his Demon Semen doctors push for the rest of us.


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If REGN-COV2 is used preventively, rather than as a treatment for diagnosed patients, the supply could yield as many as 1.3 million individual doses, Regeneron said.

In exchange for funding, the government claims ownership of all of the doses — a similar provision to an agreement reached Tuesday by the U.S. and Novavax for the biotech's experimental coronavirus vaccine. Should positive data justify an emergency use authorization or formal approval from the Food and Drug Administration, the government will be in charge of distributing the doses it owns.

In both cases, the agreements are designed to ready doses for immediate shipping upon regulatory clearance, and the U.S. government would provide both the vaccine and the drug to Americans for free. Healthcare professionals and institutions could still bill insurers for the cost of administering REGN-COV2 or Novavax's vaccine, a statement from the Health and Human Services Department said.

[link to www.biopharmadive.com (secure)]
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Tangy, we use antibodies to target cancer cells. They are quite effective in particular for bladder cancer. It's called immunotherapy.

Think of antibodies as "snipers". The target the infect cell or virus and do no damage to normal cells.

Cost is a big factor, I doubt they will be mainstream treatment for COVID-19 unless you are filthy rich or very critically ill.

Very effective though!
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I posted that link above that describes the "deal" made so that Americans get the REGN-COV2 for FREE. But they can charge you/insurance for administering.

More info about the deal in the link.
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Yes, thete is a big IF in the beginning.


COST per dose calculation:

$450,000,000 for 300,000 doses.

$1500 a pop, likley to need multiple doses for 3-5 days at least.

So looking at around $7500 per case.


That's my point.
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I believe the treatment is a single infusion dose.

The body makes its own antibodies after 5 days. This just gives the body a head start, and denies the head start to the virus during those 5 days.
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If REGN-COV2 is used preventively, rather than as a treatment for diagnosed patients, the supply could yield as many as 1.3 million individual doses, Regeneron said.

In exchange for funding, the government claims ownership of all of the doses — a similar provision to an agreement reached Tuesday by the U.S. and Novavax for the biotech's experimental coronavirus vaccine. Should positive data justify an emergency use authorization or formal approval from the Food and Drug Administration, the government will be in charge of distributing the doses it owns.

In both cases, the agreements are designed to ready doses for immediate shipping upon regulatory clearance, and the U.S. government would provide both the vaccine and the drug to Americans for free. Healthcare professionals and institutions could still bill insurers for the cost of administering REGN-COV2 or Novavax's vaccine, a statement from the Health and Human Services Department said.

[link to www.biopharmadive.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Tangy


Tangy, we use antibodies to target cancer cells. They are quite effective in particular for bladder cancer. It's called immunotherapy.

Think of antibodies as "snipers". The target the infect cell or virus and do no damage to normal cells.

Cost is a big factor, I doubt they will be mainstream treatment for COVID-19 unless you are filthy rich or very critically ill.

Very effective though!
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I posted that link above that describes the "deal" made so that Americans get the REGN-COV2 for FREE. But they can charge you/insurance for administering.

More info about the deal in the link.
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Yes, thete is a big IF in the beginning.


COST per dose calculation:

$450,000,000 for 300,000 doses.

$1500 a pop, likley to need multiple doses for 3-5 days at least.

So looking at around $7500 per case.


That's my point.
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I hear ya, but..

Better to read the whole article. That "if" was in a snippet..

This is also just a snippet...

Regeneron's agreement with the Defense Department and the Biological Advanced Research and Development Authority, or BARDA, supports the manufacturing of an estimated 70,000 to 300,000 doses of REGN-COV2. The first doses could be available as early as late summer, and the production run complete by the fall.

If REGN-COV2 is used preventively, rather than as a treatment for diagnosed patients, the supply could yield as many as 1.3 million individual doses, Regeneron said.

In exchange for funding, the government claims ownership of all of the doses — a similar provision to an agreement reached Tuesday by the U.S. and Novavax for the biotech's experimental coronavirus vaccine. Should positive data justify an emergency use authorization or formal approval from the Food and Drug Administration, the government will be in charge of distributing the doses it owns.

In both cases, the agreements are designed to ready doses for immediate shipping upon regulatory clearance, and the U.S. government would provide both the vaccine and the drug to Americans for free.

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So Trump is receiving Regeneron’s polyclonal antibody cocktail coming from the same genetically modified humanized mice I had once used in my own research that got me subpoenaed by Congress and isn’t taking hydroxychloroquine that his Demon Semen doctors push for the rest of us.


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EVERY girlfriend I have had (and my ex-wife), and for that matter, all my sisters and female relatives,and all the wives and girlfriends of my friends have the SAME EXACT traits. The following is a small sample list of said traits:

never wrong
double standard
illogical
irrational
blame placer
manipulator
word twisting
dillusional


Why would ANY man want to hitch their wagon to that!?!

It's a daily nightmare!
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If anyone thinks they tried an experimental drug on the President, without already having used some "guinea pigs" to try it out on...

You're a moran...
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FFS I hate seeing corrections of people's posts for grammatical and other errors, but I have seen this one one too many times.

IT'S MORON, MORAN!!!!
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Again, it starts with "If" ....

It will NOT be used as a preventative measure.

That's is NOT how synthetic antibodies work.

They don't last very long in the blood.

Maybe if you were a close contact of a confirmed case at best.

It will be reserved for people who can afford it and critically ill patients.

Trust me it will not become mainstream treatment due to cost.

Anyway, we shall see.
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Sounds like a pump and dump stock scheme to me.

Here's billionaire Leonard Schleifer meeting with Trump at the whitehouse. His wife is a board member of the American Jish Committee and his son a democrat candidate for the 17th congressional district NY.

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Sounds like a pump and dump stock scheme to me.

Here's billionaire Leonard Schleifer meeting with Trump at the whitehouse. His wife is a board member of the American Jish Committee and his son a democrat candidate for the 17th congressional district NY.


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Says he worked closely with Fauci to come up with a "cure for Ebola."
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Sounds like a pump and dump stock scheme to me.

Here's billionaire Leonard Schleifer meeting with Trump at the whitehouse. His wife is a board member of the American Jish Committee and his son a democrat candidate for the 17th congressional district NY.


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+1

It's all about the money.
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Would love to know how many things Christians thought were the mark of the beast over the 2000 years ? Lmao Obama antichrist lmao

Jesus t bags you all
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If anyone thinks they tried an experimental drug on the President, without already having used some "guinea pigs" to try it out on...

You're a moran...
 Quoting: COVID19


FFS I hate seeing corrections of people's posts for grammatical and other errors, but I have seen this one one too many times.

IT'S MORON, MORAN!!!!
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You must be new here.

You've seen it "too many times" because it's a GLPism.
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Anyway, we shall see.
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yep.
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Nothing like that, please don't be a stupid fuck

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Nothing like that, please don't be a stupid fuck

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oh jeez. I didn't notice he changed thread title to include mark of the beast.


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Or...he DIDN'T take that experimental drug, but wants to encourage millions of others to take it....(they will want it since "it worked for him".)
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Here is the wording in Regeneron's compassionate use request, which is how Trump's medical team received the dose:

In the USA, this type of compassionate use program is also known as an Expanded Access Program (EAP) and is intended for patients with serious or life-threatening conditions who do not have any viable or available treatment options, and are unable to participate in ongoing clinical trials.

[link to www.regeneron.com (secure)]

President Trump is seriously ill.
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Here is the wording in Regeneron's compassionate use request, which is how Trump's medical team received the dose:

In the USA, this type of compassionate use program is also known as an Expanded Access Program (EAP) and is intended for patients with serious or life-threatening conditions who do not have any viable or available treatment options, and are unable to participate in ongoing clinical trials.

[link to www.regeneron.com (secure)]

President Trump is seriously ill.
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Looks pretty good for seriously ill.

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Here is the wording in Regeneron's compassionate use request, which is how Trump's medical team received the dose:

In the USA, this type of compassionate use program is also known as an Expanded Access Program (EAP) and is intended for patients with serious or life-threatening conditions who do not have any viable or available treatment options, and are unable to participate in ongoing clinical trials.

[link to www.regeneron.com (secure)]

President Trump is seriously ill.
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No he's not. He's bumping the stock for his billionaire buddy. (You know Kushner was loading up on REGN before the announcement was made.)

Nobody gets the covid, and then less than 24 hours later is taking an experimental treatment with no FDA approval. Especially the president.

This is all bullshit.
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wtf

EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENT ON THE PRESIDENT OF USA??

Is it for real? damned


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U.S. President Donald Trump has received a promising but experimental COVID-19 drug still in clinical trials, according to a White House statement released Friday afternoon, following his diagnosis with the disease.

Sean Conley, the President’s personal physician, wrote in a memo that he treated Trump with an eight-gram dose of Regeneron’s experimental antibody cocktail. Trump has also received zinc, vitamin D, aspirin, melatonin and a heartburn drug thought to help fight COVID-19.
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Mark of the Beast. Really?
It's in your forehead.
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Or...he DIDN'T take that experimental drug, but wants to encourage millions of others to take it....(they will want it since "it worked for him".)
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wtf

EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENT ON THE PRESIDENT OF USA??

Is it for real? damned


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U.S. President Donald Trump has received a promising but experimental COVID-19 drug still in clinical trials, according to a White House statement released Friday afternoon, following his diagnosis with the disease.

Sean Conley, the President’s personal physician, wrote in a memo that he treated Trump with an eight-gram dose of Regeneron’s experimental antibody cocktail. Trump has also received zinc, vitamin D, aspirin, melatonin and a heartburn drug thought to help fight COVID-19.
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What I found most interesting was the Pepcid AC he is taking. Way way back in Jan or Feb I remember reading posts here that said to stock up on certain items in your medicine chest to fight the virus. I'm trying to remember the list, zinc, ibuprofen, and I know I saw Pepcid on that list. Interesting.
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Thread: Breaking: Those who set up the debate, may have infected Trump with the China Virus, 11 test positive!.

Thread: Democratic Denver councilwoman shares woman's tweet threatening to deliberately infect Trump supporters with coronavirus at rallies
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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Why didn’t he take hydro chloroquine?
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Why didn’t he take hydro chloroquine?
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Guess he's being the guinea pig for the newer drug.
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This is NOTHING NEW...been doing it decades....it's how they stopped Ebola.
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Why didn’t he take hydro chloroquine?
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You know he is....NOTHING can stop you from getting it, just from it GETTING YOU.
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Yeah, it doesn't make sense that an experimental treatment would be used on the President?!! I hope this is Fake News.

There could be creepy nanites, things that alter DNA/RNA, heavy metals and God knows what else in these injections.
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Why didn’t he take hydro chloroquine?
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You know he is....NOTHING can stop you from getting it, just from it GETTING YOU.
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Not sure I understand
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Maybe they made him sick to promote their shit...don t know...
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Maybe because so many in the country and world had begun to doubt the "threat" that Covid posed. And rightly so. But, if you have the President sick and say it's covid and tell you blow by blow how bad off he is and how touch and go it is or whatever is coming down the pike with this. Then they have restored their much needed fear factor to carry out the agenda.

I'd like to know when he went to the hospital, after he was given this awful, nasty junk? He had the breathing issues in response to it? I don't see how it could do anything but make you sick to pump people full of the animal antibodies. All vaccines seem predicated on mixing in animal bi-products one way or another.





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