Synthetic antibodies? EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENT ON TRUMP? MARK OF THE BEAST? | |
Tangy
User ID: 57719620 United States 10/02/2020 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything is possible. So much lies and psy-op those last 20 years (and more)... Quoting: ThePassenger Please show us what you have about that, i know for sure that the Bible is the script. Our elites are fucking statanists, then God exists. So this thread is going to be more about some # of the beast and anti christ shit instead of the topic? You re in a bad mood today? You re right, don t derail this thread (we will talk about that tomorrow when this thread will be lost on page 57) lol.. Nah, not a bad mood, but I hate when there is an interesting topic, that even the OP of the topic goes off topic. I'm eating home made fajitas, how can you be in a bad mood doing that? |
Justmeok
User ID: 76148484 United States 10/02/2020 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Looks like they gave him monoclonal antibodies. If they did it right, he should get better extremely fast. Although I would have preferred he get Ivermectin, since it is shown to be working superbly. "President Trump has received a dose of an experimental antibody cocktail being developed by the drug maker Regeneron, in addition to several other drugs, including zinc, vitamin D and the generic version of the heartburn treatment Pepcid, according to a letter from his doctor that was released by the White House Friday afternoon." Justme |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77132818 Germany 10/02/2020 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Quoting: Justmeok Looks like they gave him monoclonal antibodies. If they did it right, he should get better extremely fast. Although I would have preferred he get Ivermectin, since it is shown to be working superbly. "President Trump has received a dose of an experimental antibody cocktail being developed by the drug maker Regeneron, in addition to several other drugs, including zinc, vitamin D and the generic version of the heartburn treatment Pepcid, according to a letter from his doctor that was released by the White House Friday afternoon." Regeneron's CEO is a Trump buddy, that's why. |
Tangy
User ID: 57719620 United States 10/02/2020 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am. I go to the lake every day when the suns shining and swim or go for walks, bike rides etc but there's soo much doom lately. And posters lately are just crazy all over the map. Its hard to follow a thread anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46466880 There ya go, that's nice. For me, I recently decided to ignore a crap ton if posters that annoy me. [link to i.gyazo.com (secure)] It's been glorious. Back on topic, it's interesting they took this route instead of the convalescent plasma route. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79444241 Australia 10/02/2020 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All good things, good stuff. Antibodies will literally paralise the Virus. VitD immune booster Zinc is antiviral and is administrated together with Fomatadine (as a Zinc ionophore) and it's an H2 blocker to reduce the chance of a Cytokine Storm. Aspirin to prevent blood clots, Heparin is a far better choice IMHO. Melatonin I am not too sure about? I thought it aided sleep in insomnia sufferers?! President Trump will be just fine in no time. |
Justmeok
User ID: 76148484 United States 10/02/2020 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Quoting: Justmeok Looks like they gave him monoclonal antibodies. If they did it right, he should get better extremely fast. Although I would have preferred he get Ivermectin, since it is shown to be working superbly. "President Trump has received a dose of an experimental antibody cocktail being developed by the drug maker Regeneron, in addition to several other drugs, including zinc, vitamin D and the generic version of the heartburn treatment Pepcid, according to a letter from his doctor that was released by the White House Friday afternoon." Regeneron's CEO is a Trump buddy, that's why. The article said the White house requested the drug, under compassionate use doctrine, and Regeneron company granted his request. I assume Trump and or his physician fully knows the data on the drug and made their best choice for his health. Godspeed Mr. President. Justme |
ThePassenger
(OP) User ID: 49744517 France 10/02/2020 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All good things, good stuff. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79444241 Antibodies will literally paralise the Virus. VitD immune booster Zinc is antiviral and is administrated together with Fomatadine (as a Zinc ionophore) and it's an H2 blocker to reduce the chance of a Cytokine Storm. Aspirin to prevent blood clots, Heparin is a far better choice IMHO. Melatonin I am not too sure about? I thought it aided sleep in insomnia sufferers?! President Trump will be just fine in no time. we hope so. But i will double check again what he really took...he ll talk about that soon. A.I.B.I.A. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46466880 Canada 10/02/2020 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am. I go to the lake every day when the suns shining and swim or go for walks, bike rides etc but there's soo much doom lately. And posters lately are just crazy all over the map. Its hard to follow a thread anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46466880 There ya go, that's nice. For me, I recently decided to ignore a crap ton if posters that annoy me. [link to i.gyazo.com (secure)] It's been glorious. Back on topic, it's interesting they took this route instead of the convalescent plasma route. |
Tangy
User ID: 57719620 United States 10/02/2020 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All good things, good stuff. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79444241 Antibodies will literally paralise the Virus. VitD immune booster Zinc is antiviral and is administrated together with Fomatadine (as a Zinc ionophore) and it's an H2 blocker to reduce the chance of a Cytokine Storm. Aspirin to prevent blood clots, Heparin is a far better choice IMHO. Melatonin I am not too sure about? I thought it aided sleep in insomnia sufferers?! President Trump will be just fine in no time. Melatonin effects in cytokine levels in humans. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] |
Tangy
User ID: 57719620 United States 10/02/2020 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All good things, good stuff. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79444241 Antibodies will literally paralise the Virus. VitD immune booster Zinc is antiviral and is administrated together with Fomatadine (as a Zinc ionophore) and it's an H2 blocker to reduce the chance of a Cytokine Storm. Aspirin to prevent blood clots, Heparin is a far better choice IMHO. Melatonin I am not too sure about? I thought it aided sleep in insomnia sufferers?! President Trump will be just fine in no time. we hope so. But i will double check again what he really took...he ll talk about that soon. His doctor released a statement about what he is taking. Much of which I think he was already taking daily. D, zinc, aspirin, melatonin and antacid. Pretty close to the marik protocol. [link to www.evms.edu (secure)] Last Edited by Tangy on 10/02/2020 07:39 PM |
Tangy
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Sotired
User ID: 2492899 United States 10/02/2020 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing that Scripture alludes to being the Mark of the Beast is that it’s opposite the Mark of God. Scripture tells you what the Mark of God is and Satan counterfeits and perverts the things of God. Have you ever found the Mark of God in Scripture? Have you ever looked? "You shall therefore impress these words of mine on your heart and on your soul; and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontals on your forehead. -Deuteronomy 11:18 “These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart. “You shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise up. “You shall bind them as a sign on your hand and they shall be as frontals on your forehead. -Deuteronomy 6:6-8 These are not the only places that allude to this. What is being spoken about here is the perfect Law of God. They are on the forehead because that symbolizes what you think about and on the hand because that symbolizes what you do. The Mark of the Beast will therefore parallel the Mark of God. It will be lawlessness...the willful trespass of God’s Holy and perfect Law. God doesn’t care about vaccines or cell phones or whatever nonsense people try to call the Mark. What God is very concerned with, as is shown throughout Scripture, is OBEDIENCE. The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. -Ecclesiastes 12:13 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79444241 Australia 10/02/2020 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am purely guessing, but I believe the reason they took this route is because he came into contact with a very HIGH viral load. Quoting: Tangy When that happens your body does not have time to build antibodies. The real reason is simple because "The Drs Can". The antibodies cost thousands of dollars per dose and are usually not necessary as your body will start making them in 3-5 days. He is the POTUS, no cost cutting here for sure! |
Tangy
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Tangy
User ID: 57719620 United States 10/02/2020 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am purely guessing, but I believe the reason they took this route is because he came into contact with a very HIGH viral load. Quoting: Tangy When that happens your body does not have time to build antibodies. The real reason is simple because "The Drs Can". The antibodies cost thousands of dollars per dose and are usually not necessary as your body will start making them in 3-5 days. He is the POTUS, no cost cutting here for sure! Show me a link with the cost of Regeneron. This isn't convalescent plasma, it is synthetic antibodies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79444241 Australia 10/02/2020 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am purely guessing, but I believe the reason they took this route is because he came into contact with a very HIGH viral load. Quoting: Tangy When that happens your body does not have time to build antibodies. The real reason is simple because "The Drs Can". The antibodies cost thousands of dollars per dose and are usually not necessary as your body will start making them in 3-5 days. He is the POTUS, no cost cutting here for sure! Show me a link with the cost of Regeneron. This isn't convalescent plasma, it is synthetic antibodies. Synthetic antibodies are extremely expensive to manufacture, trust me on this one, I know! |
Tangy
User ID: 57719620 United States 10/02/2020 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am purely guessing, but I believe the reason they took this route is because he came into contact with a very HIGH viral load. Quoting: Tangy When that happens your body does not have time to build antibodies. The real reason is simple because "The Drs Can". The antibodies cost thousands of dollars per dose and are usually not necessary as your body will start making them in 3-5 days. He is the POTUS, no cost cutting here for sure! Show me a link with the cost of Regeneron. This isn't convalescent plasma, it is synthetic antibodies. Synthetic antibodies are extremely expensive to manufacture, trust me on this one, I know! Synthetic Molecules May Be Less Expensive Alternative To Therapeutic Antibodies, Researchers Find [link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)] Antibody Production | Biocompare Editorial Article Polyclonal antibodies are also faster and less expensive to produce [link to www.biocompare.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78760296 United States 10/02/2020 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENT ON THE PRESIDENT OF USA?? Is it for real? [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] [link to time.com (secure)] U.S. President Donald Trump has received a promising but experimental COVID-19 drug still in clinical trials, according to a White House statement released Friday afternoon, following his diagnosis with the disease. Sean Conley, the President’s personal physician, wrote in a memo that he treated Trump with an eight-gram dose of Regeneron’s experimental antibody cocktail. Trump has also received zinc, vitamin D, aspirin, melatonin and a heartburn drug thought to help fight COVID-19. And this is super pined? |
Tangy
User ID: 57719620 United States 10/02/2020 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79444241 The real reason is simple because "The Drs Can". The antibodies cost thousands of dollars per dose and are usually not necessary as your body will start making them in 3-5 days. He is the POTUS, no cost cutting here for sure! Show me a link with the cost of Regeneron. This isn't convalescent plasma, it is synthetic antibodies. Synthetic antibodies are extremely expensive to manufacture, trust me on this one, I know! Synthetic Molecules May Be Less Expensive Alternative To Therapeutic Antibodies, Researchers Find [link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)] Antibody Production | Biocompare Editorial Article Polyclonal antibodies are also faster and less expensive to produce [link to www.biocompare.com (secure)] If REGN-COV2 is used preventively, rather than as a treatment for diagnosed patients, the supply could yield as many as 1.3 million individual doses, Regeneron said. In exchange for funding, the government claims ownership of all of the doses — a similar provision to an agreement reached Tuesday by the U.S. and Novavax for the biotech's experimental coronavirus vaccine. Should positive data justify an emergency use authorization or formal approval from the Food and Drug Administration, the government will be in charge of distributing the doses it owns. In both cases, the agreements are designed to ready doses for immediate shipping upon regulatory clearance, and the U.S. government would provide both the vaccine and the drug to Americans for free. Healthcare professionals and institutions could still bill insurers for the cost of administering REGN-COV2 or Novavax's vaccine, a statement from the Health and Human Services Department said. [link to www.biopharmadive.com (secure)] |
Justmeok
User ID: 76148484 United States 10/02/2020 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DOES ANYONE KNOW THE PERCENTAGE OF CORRELATION OF SUCCESS OF THIS 'PRODUCT' YET SO FAR?!?!?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68159710 The drug was trialled in around 300 people and on average shortened recovery time from 14 days to 6 days. It is an antibody developed for the Coronavirus. It has had very limited minor reactions in the trials. Seems a reasonably safe bet to make. I would have preferred Ivermectin, but they haven't put me in charge of the world yet, like they should. The New York Times article said he has already been given the single infusion treatment and tolerated it well. No side effects. [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/02/2020 08:22 PM Justme |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79444241 Australia 10/02/2020 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tangy, we use antibodies to target cancer cells. They are quite effective in particular for bladder cancer. It's called immunotherapy. Think of antibodies as "snipers". The target the infect cell or virus and do no damage to normal cells. Cost is a big factor, I doubt they will be mainstream treatment for COVID-19 unless you are filthy rich or very critically ill. Very effective though! |
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Tangy
User ID: 57719620 United States 10/02/2020 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If REGN-COV2 is used preventively, rather than as a treatment for diagnosed patients, the supply could yield as many as 1.3 million individual doses, Regeneron said. Quoting: Tangy In exchange for funding, the government claims ownership of all of the doses — a similar provision to an agreement reached Tuesday by the U.S. and Novavax for the biotech's experimental coronavirus vaccine. Should positive data justify an emergency use authorization or formal approval from the Food and Drug Administration, the government will be in charge of distributing the doses it owns. In both cases, the agreements are designed to ready doses for immediate shipping upon regulatory clearance, and the U.S. government would provide both the vaccine and the drug to Americans for free. Healthcare professionals and institutions could still bill insurers for the cost of administering REGN-COV2 or Novavax's vaccine, a statement from the Health and Human Services Department said. [link to www.biopharmadive.com (secure)] Tangy, we use antibodies to target cancer cells. They are quite effective in particular for bladder cancer. It's called immunotherapy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79444241 Think of antibodies as "snipers". The target the infect cell or virus and do no damage to normal cells. Cost is a big factor, I doubt they will be mainstream treatment for COVID-19 unless you are filthy rich or very critically ill. Very effective though! I posted that link above that describes the "deal" made so that Americans get the REGN-COV2 for FREE. But they can charge you/insurance for administering. More info about the deal in the link. Last Edited by Tangy on 10/02/2020 08:23 PM |
Tangy
User ID: 57719620 United States 10/02/2020 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump sacrifices himself to be a human test subject pit of Love for the people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79442357 I am guessing his viral load was much higher than his bodies ability to work on antibodies. So this gives him a jump start. OR, it has shown great results in shortening the symptoms, and he does have quite a busy month ahead. lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79444241 Australia 10/02/2020 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If REGN-COV2 is used preventively, rather than as a treatment for diagnosed patients, the supply could yield as many as 1.3 million individual doses, Regeneron said. Quoting: Tangy In exchange for funding, the government claims ownership of all of the doses — a similar provision to an agreement reached Tuesday by the U.S. and Novavax for the biotech's experimental coronavirus vaccine. Should positive data justify an emergency use authorization or formal approval from the Food and Drug Administration, the government will be in charge of distributing the doses it owns. In both cases, the agreements are designed to ready doses for immediate shipping upon regulatory clearance, and the U.S. government would provide both the vaccine and the drug to Americans for free. Healthcare professionals and institutions could still bill insurers for the cost of administering REGN-COV2 or Novavax's vaccine, a statement from the Health and Human Services Department said. [link to www.biopharmadive.com (secure)] Tangy, we use antibodies to target cancer cells. They are quite effective in particular for bladder cancer. It's called immunotherapy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79444241 Think of antibodies as "snipers". The target the infect cell or virus and do no damage to normal cells. Cost is a big factor, I doubt they will be mainstream treatment for COVID-19 unless you are filthy rich or very critically ill. Very effective though! I posted that link above that describes the "deal" made so that Americans get the REGN-COV2 for FREE. But they can charge you/insurance for administering. More info about the deal in the link. Yes, thete is a big IF in the beginning. COST per dose calculation: $450,000,000 for 300,000 doses. $1500 a pop, likley to need multiple doses for 3-5 days at least. So looking at around $7500 per case. That's my point. |