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The Reason Trump continued to build all the vents/respirators? Poll

 
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Contracts $$$$$$$
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"What Does a Premium Ventilator Cost?


Premium or high-acuity ventilators — most commonly found in hospital ICUs — typically have a PSOL gas delivery design and can currently cost between $25,000 and $50,000. Factors that can contribute to this price range include user configurability options and built-in safety features.

Our Puritan Bennett™ 980 ventilator is a good example of how different factors can impact cost. Both configuration and patient needs can influence the price range of the Puritan Bennett™ 980 ventilator — which is from $32,000 to $48,000."

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Well there isn't much sense in making more ventilators than we have beds in America or around the world. Probably making them for the other countries now.
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That is what Trump did say.

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Obviously stockpiling for the next big one.
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Next big what?
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Outbreak of health crises.
Not anutter cig nature.
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Obviously stockpiling for the next big one.
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Next big what?
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Outbreak of health crises.
 Quoting: Beyond


You suspect that respiratory illnesses will always be the greatest threat?
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POLL: Why does Trump continue to build all the new respirators?
5. All of the above 23.0% (66)
1. allow the people from deep underground to survive at ground level, until they adjust 22.3% (64)
6. None of the above 21.6% (62)
3. Fill the empty strategic stockpiles of respirators needed for contingencies 21.3% (61)
4. Second or third wave pandemic response 8.4% (24)
2. Help existing virus patients with Lung complications worldwide 3.5% (10)
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Non-Blank Votes: 287

Last Edited by George B on 01/15/2021 05:15 PM
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Not bad, is this a self-portrait?
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By-the-way, a psyops is designed to discredit itself to people who what to discredit it. . . just saying.

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For Trump you should read PTB.
I think it is very unlikely that Trump did anything without it coming from PTB HQ.

Yes I was hooked on the Hopium too for a while.
But it is virtually 100% certain that Trump was placed by the PTB and it's 99.9% certain that he has done nothing to damage them.
So you have to conclude that in reality he was never near the levers of power.

Unfortunately.
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The stars and fans are gonna need them. The rest of us will be okay.
Not anutter cig nature.
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Is there a click able tab for "Dumbass Poll".
Tell em' Big_Dick_Ron sent ya!!!

Trust me...It'll fit
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I have no idea why he was building them or Cuomo was asking for them.

Ask any Nurse or Respiratory Therapist for every Vent it takes one health care worker to care for THAT patient.....

Ventilators are NOT set it and forget it machines. The patient on the vent needs continuous observation and is labor intensive.

Even if 10,000 patients needed to be placed on a vent there are not enough HKWs to care for them.

What a sham,,, and sensational yellow journalism covering it....
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Is there a click able tab for "Dumbass Poll".
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Be my guest, create your own.
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Scare tactic and under the table deal. How do you think politicians get so rich?
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For Trump you should read PTB.
I think it is very unlikely that Trump did anything without it coming from PTB HQ.

Yes I was hooked on the Hopium too for a while.
But it is virtually 100% certain that Trump was placed by the PTB and it's 99.9% certain that he has done nothing to damage them.
So you have to conclude that in reality he was never near the levers of power.

Unfortunately.
 Quoting: bob uk carethno 76225154


Wait until June of this year, you might change your mind. That is really not that much longer.
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The stars and fans are gonna need them. The rest of us will be okay.
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I agree.
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I have no idea why he was building them or Cuomo was asking for them.

Ask any Nurse or Respiratory Therapist for every Vent it takes one health care worker to care for THAT patient.....

Ventilators are NOT set it and forget it machines. The patient on the vent needs continuous observation and is labor intensive.

Even if 10,000 patients needed to be placed on a vent there are not enough HKWs to care for them.

What a sham,,, and sensational yellow journalism covering it....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56026143


Good thoughts. . . something does not really add up does it?
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POLL: Why does Trump continue to build all the new respirators?
1. allow the people from deep underground to survive at ground level, until they adjust 23.6% (82)
5. All of the above 21.3% (74)
3. Fill the empty strategic stockpiles of respirators needed for contingencies 20.7% (72)
6. None of the above 20.7% (72)
4. Second or third wave pandemic response 10.1% (35)
2. Help existing virus patients with Lung complications world wide 3.7% (13)
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Non-Blank Votes: 348

Last Edited by George B on 01/15/2021 05:56 PM
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Because he can give work to his corporate cronies and allow them to charge orders of magnitude more than what pre-pandemic ventilators were going for (even though the existing stock is all sitting wrapped in plastic and it is clear that they are what were largely killing people in the first place).
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Because he can give work to his corporate cronies and allow them to charge orders of magnitude more than what pre-pandemic ventilators were going for (even though the existing stock is all sitting wrapped in plastic and it is clear that they are what were largely killing people in the first place).
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So Trump could not possibly have an honorable motive?
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Why does Trump continue to build all the new respirators? Poll

1. allow the people from deep underground to survive at ground level, until they adjust
2. Help existing virus patients with Lung complications worldwide
3. Fill the empty strategic stockpiles of respirators needed for contingencies
4. Second or third wave pandemic response
5. All of the above
6. None of the above

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This is the reason for the Vents . . . listen from 2:50 mark.
Looks like my speculation about altitude effects are correct.

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Trump has no control over any of the Covid measures or operations.
ie he instigated the Kodak deal but he has no control over it's operation.

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Scare tactic and under the table deal. How do you think politicians get so rich?
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Hmmmm, Trump has lost money and is getting attacked constantly. What has he gained. Show me evidence.
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Why does Trump continue to build all the new respirators? Poll

1. allow the people from deep underground to survive at ground level, until they adjust
2. Help existing virus patients with Lung complications worldwide
3. Fill the empty strategic stockpiles of respirators needed for contingencies
4. Second or third wave pandemic response
5. All of the above
6. None of the above

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This is the reason for the Vents . . . listen from 2:50 mark.
Looks like my speculation about altitude effects are correct.

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 Quoting: George B


Trump has no control over any of the Covid measures or operations.
ie he instigated the Kodak deal but he has no control over it's operation.

.
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Good points. . .
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Re: The Reason Trump continued to build all the vents/respirators? Poll
I see one respondent voted "none of the above." I would love to know what they think is the reason for the purchase of all the additional vents are . . .
 Quoting: George B


I thought they might be a make-work program for companies that supported him but more importantly I think the fact that he awarded contracts for medical supplies and equipment to non-medical industry companies was a deliberate act against the big med tech and pharmaceutical companies and probably really pissed them off, good.
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I see one respondent voted "none of the above." I would love to know what they think is the reason for the purchase of all the additional vents are . . .
 Quoting: George B


I thought they might be a make-work program for companies that supported him but more importantly I think the fact that he awarded contracts for medical supplies and equipment to non-medical industry companies was a deliberate act against the big med tech and pharmaceutical companies and probably really pissed them off, good.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


I totally agree with what you stated. He was attacking the middle men that have gouged the public for decades. It was not the only reason but was one of them. . .

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Why does Trump continue to build all the new respirators? Poll

1. allow the people from deep underground to survive at ground level, until they adjust
2. Help existing virus patients with Lung complications worldwide
3. Fill the empty strategic stockpiles of respirators needed for contingencies
4. Second or third wave pandemic response
5. All of the above
6. None of the above

75
667


This is the reason for the Vents . . . listen from 2:50 mark.
Looks like my speculation about altitude effects are correct.

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 Quoting: George B


Dude.

People have been speculating this since the park tents and medical ships were deployed under the guise of CoV.

There was massive discussion...even here on GLP...about the medical treatments required for people rescued & brought up from underground tunnels and bunkers.
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Why does Trump continue to build all the new respirators? Poll

1. allow the people from deep underground to survive at ground level, until they adjust
2. Help existing virus patients with Lung complications worldwide
3. Fill the empty strategic stockpiles of respirators needed for contingencies
4. Second or third wave pandemic response
5. All of the above
6. None of the above

75
667


This is the reason for the Vents . . . listen from 2:50 mark.
Looks like my speculation about altitude effects are correct.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


 Quoting: George B


Dude.

People have been speculating this since the park tents and medical ships were deployed under the guise of CoV.

There was massive discussion...even here on GLP...about the medical treatments required for people rescued & brought up from underground tunnels and bunkers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77016666


Dude, link a thread if you like. . . this is a poll about why the number in the thousands of vents being manufactured, and continued to be manufactured since the original announcement. Many people still don't even agree on the number of people in the DUMBs or even if they exist to this day. This poll was stared in June 2020.

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Why does Trump continue to build all the new respirators? Poll

1. allow the people from deep underground to survive at ground level, until they adjust
2. Help existing virus patients with Lung complications worldwide
3. Fill the empty strategic stockpiles of respirators needed for contingencies
4. Second or third wave pandemic response
5. All of the above
6. None of the above

75
667


This is the reason for the Vents . . . listen from 2:50 mark.
Looks like my speculation about altitude effects are correct.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


 Quoting: George B


Dude.

People have been speculating this since the park tents and medical ships were deployed under the guise of CoV.

There was massive discussion...even here on GLP...about the medical treatments required for people rescued & brought up from underground tunnels and bunkers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77016666


People think there are many reasons for the equipment. Few have even understood that someone deep underground might need a vent.

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Not everything Trump says or does makes sense unless you realize his real mission is to drain the swamp. He is in the final stages of the mission.

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Not everything Trump says or does makes sense unless you realize his real mission is to drain the swamp. He is in the final stages of the mission.

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