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Preppers in every state east of the Rockies -- what to do about storms when TSHTF?

 
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If the sky starts turning a light green, duck.
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Best indicator....sky color and barometer!
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If the sky starts turning a light green, duck.
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Yeah; I've seen that green shit even up here in Wisconsin. It's really weird.
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What do you do at night?
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Uhm not live in "hurricane alley"...So It's not really a worry here. IF TSHTF and electricity, water, and supplies are out..bad weather is at the bottom of the list of shit to worry about. Up here it's "hard cold". most folks have some form of emergency back up heat. fireplaces and franklin (wood) stoves. propane mr.buddy space heaters and few grill sized bottles of propane. Enough to get a small insulated room through a week or so of downed power lines.
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Currently I live with my wife and 3 girls in Florida. As long as we get live weather updates, we know when to bunker down for a hurricane or tornado. But what do we do when the lights go out when there's nobody running the NOAA or SPC at the government office? How will we know when a storm is coming?

What about you preppers in Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Texas, Kansas, Kentucky? How do you know when a tornado is coming without the NOAA warning you? Are you worried?

My family has a bugout (really a vacation home) in Idaho. I know realistically in an actual SHTF situation we'll never make it out there in time so we're looking to buy a property in Kentucky. But my wife is worried about storms.

Any suggestions to calm her?
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Not bad in Kentucky other than Brandenburg in 1974. The clouds get a greenish cast and then you know it's possible. Rare. I've seen tornadoes form in Indiana. It looks like a finger pointing down as it develops. Seldom an issue.
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This is the tornado history for Kentucky.
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Currently I live with my wife and 3 girls in Florida. As long as we get live weather updates, we know when to bunker down for a hurricane or tornado. But what do we do when the lights go out when there's nobody running the NOAA or SPC at the government office? How will we know when a storm is coming?

What about you preppers in Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Texas, Kansas, Kentucky? How do you know when a tornado is coming without the NOAA warning you? Are you worried?

My family has a bugout (really a vacation home) in Idaho. I know realistically in an actual SHTF situation we'll never make it out there in time so we're looking to buy a property in Kentucky. But my wife is worried about storms.

Any suggestions to calm her?
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Not bad in Kentucky other than Brandenburg in 1974. The clouds get a greenish cast and then you know it's possible. Rare. I've seen tornadoes form in Indiana. It looks like a finger pointing down as it develops. Seldom an issue.
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Huh? You must live in Eastern Kentucky. Western and Central Kentucky get hit all the time.
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Western KY. When tornadoes hit, they generally are minor.



Sure, one might form a tear up some farm land or forest but look at the national weather servuce link on fatalites.

Be cognizant of distance from the New Madrid fault line regarding earthquake potential.

Carefully assess the appropriateness of the farm for crops and livestock.
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Eastern Kentucky has a lot of crime in some areas due to the hillbilly mafia pushing drugs. I would suggest western KY. Also the Scotch-Irish (Ferocious Scottish who were often warriors who then lived in Ulster in Ireland, but then moved to KY and TN) in Eastern KY are very insular ie they strongly dislike strangers as they don't trust 'em.

Western KY has some pretty spots. Actually there are quite a few spots that would be appropriate in several locations like Bardstown, Morganfield, Murray, etc.

You really ought to visit for two weeks before buying as your ethos should match the local's ethos.
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You have to just feel the weather. Pay attention to it. There are palpable things before tornadoes unless you're in the midst of a serious thunderstorm as well.

Hail usually precedes tornadic activity. Putting your ear to a window pane and hearing what sounds like a train is a good indicator a tornado is near. Dogs are fantastic prognosticators.

For hurricanes, it's really evident in the sky that they are coming.

We live in tornado alley. Lived in a mobile with no shelter for several years, and that got pretty twitchy 3 times.

It's really not that difficult. Tbh, wild fires in a shtf scenario worry me more. But thieves and murderers concern me more than wild fires.

Do what you feel really led to do. You have to get quiet and calm to know what that is.

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Wow! I couldn't imagine living in a mobile home in tornado alley with no place to go! Ok but the main thing is you survived! What kind of winds did you experience?

As far as thieves, murderers, we're looking for a place with good neighbors. Plus both my wife and I took tactical training with live ammunition. It was intense. My wife is as good as me when it comes to long range sniper and even my girls can use a gun if need be. I think community is important in defending your family!
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Between 90 and 100 mph straight line winds and who knows on the nearby tornadic activity. At least 70mph.

Definitely would have preferred to have a shelter. When we started building out house and it was dried in we would come into the lower level and camp out when it was twitchy at night.

My advice is to learn to feel it, and that green sky and heavy feel to the air with a certain ominous stillness is a fantastic indicator. But the biggest tell has been hail for us.

If you go for KY,MO,TN,AR, simply make it a priority to get a storm cellar. If you can't dig a pretty deep ditch and don't be afraid of getting muddy, wet and seriously scared. Lol.

Once in a great while they happen suddenly, but usually the conditions give a long enough tell before they occur.
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Forgive me for my ignorance but are campers really that strong to last 100MPH winds?

I've got a 26' cargo trailer. I don't think it would last 50mph! From the side...
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Well ours weathered it fine. shrug

From the side as well. It ran north and south and the wind was from the west.
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Paducah is pleasant and if the SHTF, it's a riverport so it would become a vital trade location.

The Land Between the Lakes region is popular.
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These are all tornadoes in a database for Kentucky with the F scale listed.

What is relevant is how much property damage occurred and how many fatalities occurred. While people remember some, was it a violent one? Was it costly?

Western KY is a fairly good bugout location for a homestead but probably not if you are a liberal, an atheist, and some minorities as you would feel isolated.
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Currently I live with my wife and 3 girls in Florida. As long as we get live weather updates, we know when to bunker down for a hurricane or tornado. But what do we do when the lights go out when there's nobody running the NOAA or SPC at the government office? How will we know when a storm is coming?

What about you preppers in Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Texas, Kansas, Kentucky? How do you know when a tornado is coming without the NOAA warning you? Are you worried?

My family has a bugout (really a vacation home) in Idaho. I know realistically in an actual SHTF situation we'll never make it out there in time so we're looking to buy a property in Kentucky. But my wife is worried about storms.

Any suggestions to calm her?
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get property in northwest arkansas or southwest missouri. at least you will be above water level when the new madrid goes off. at the least, the western half of kentucky will be under water. southern il, everything east of little rock ark and western tennessee will be under water too. but nw ark, and sw missouri are on the craton and will be safe from the failed rift.
retiring military prefer the ozarks, they already know that is a safe area. it's going to happen faster than the rift valey pulling africa apart. when it starts it will probably take a month for everything to happen. the earthquake will be quick starting, and of long duration. you will see sand geysers, and the water from the mississippi will disappear into the ground. you have been warned.....
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This is a population density map. Straight away, you will see that Western KY has a very low population density, yet often river access, but no nuclear reactors. It is subtropical thus three growing seasons with very mild winters. It's full of rural folks who have ancestral skills, tend to be very conservative, Christian, are hospitable if respected, etc.

If the SHTF, it's difficult for the fleeing Atlantic Seaboard folks to get here as that means getting through Appalachia. Ain't gonna happen.

Bridges would close isolating that region.

It's appropriage for livestock and crops and has fairly good hunting and fishing.

Lots of positives.

Even when the New Madrid earthquake happened, and the region got an 8.0, it did not harm many folks and tear up houses that bad.

Droughts are not an issue as they are west of the Mississippi River.

The racial situation is not hostile. There are minimal homeless. There is not a significant illegal alien issue.
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This is a population density map. Straight away, you will see that Western KY has a very low population density, yet often river access, but no nuclear reactors. It is subtropical thus three growing seasons with very mild winters. It's full of rural folks who have ancestral skills, tend to be very conservative, Christian, are hospitable if respected, etc.

If the SHTF, it's difficult for the fleeing Atlantic Seaboard folks to get here as that means getting through Appalachia. Ain't gonna happen.

Bridges would close isolating that region.

It's appropriage for livestock and crops and has fairly good hunting and fishing.

Lots of positives.

Even when the New Madrid earthquake happened, and the region got an 8.0, it did not harm many folks and tear up houses that bad.

Droughts are not an issue as they are west of the Mississippi River.

The racial situation is not hostile. There are minimal homeless. There is not a significant illegal alien issue.
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there wasn't that many people in the area the last time it shook. now you have memphis and st louis. lots of people and property to be compromised by an 8.0 or greater earth quake.
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I'm telling you this in hopes that you listen. In a SHTF situation, you don't want to be on the interstates. You need to already be at your alternate location. You'll wound up out of gas on the side of the road or Mad Maxed on the Interstate since you'll be carrying everything you own in that vehicle.

Best bet if you're dumb enough to leave after the SHTF is to get a 55 gallon drum and fill it with gas ahead of time. Don't ever stop on the interstate, a gas station, or a rest area to refill. Drive miles down a remote road and have a decent flashlight.

Other than that, make friends with your neighbors!
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I'm telling you this in hopes that you listen. In a SHTF situation, you don't want to be on the interstates. You need to already be at your alternate location. You'll wound up out of gas on the side of the road or Mad Maxed on the Interstate since you'll be carrying everything you own in that vehicle.

Best bet if you're dumb enough to leave after the SHTF is to get a 55 gallon drum and fill it with gas ahead of time. Don't ever stop on the interstate, a gas station, or a rest area to refill. Drive miles down a remote road and have a decent flashlight.

Other than that, make friends with your neighbors!
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Sorry about the double post. I was distracted for a min.
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I ain't no where near St. Louis or Memphis. Apples and oranges.

I don't know but I got kin living in Missouri and they formerly lived in the Ozarks. They said it isn't really welcoming to strangers. I don't know. Never been there.

Y'all should always vacation there for two weeks and try to meet locals. Heck, I would find a local I trusted to get the scoop on any property as otherwise you mighy regret any purchased property. You need to know what the neighbors are like. How about the condition of the wells? Is this spent farmland?
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If the sky starts turning a light green, duck.
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Currently I live with my wife and 3 girls in Florida. As long as we get live weather updates, we know when to bunker down for a hurricane or tornado. But what do we do when the lights go out when there's nobody running the NOAA or SPC at the government office? How will we know when a storm is coming?

What about you preppers in Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Texas, Kansas, Kentucky? How do you know when a tornado is coming without the NOAA warning you? Are you worried?

My family has a bugout (really a vacation home) in Idaho. I know realistically in an actual SHTF situation we'll never make it out there in time so we're looking to buy a property in Kentucky. But my wife is worried about storms.

Any suggestions to calm her?
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Not bad in Kentucky other than Brandenburg in 1974. The clouds get a greenish cast and then you know it's possible. Rare. I've seen tornadoes form in Indiana. It looks like a finger pointing down as it develops. Seldom an issue.
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I've read all of your replies! Thank you! What do you know about north Central Kentucky? That's where my friend is now and he wants us to move there. He's building a nice home with a bunker. Thanks in advance.
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As dumb as this sounds it is real. Bear fat in a glass jar on the window -- will form patterns. You can see them change in an hour or two time.

Once you learn the patterns you can know 24 hours in advance when bad weather is coming. If i was able to post a pictorial key on this website -- I would put them up for all to see.

If you don't have bear fat, rendered chicken fat will work. *Use a non-factory raised chicken.

A stormglass made with camphor and other nontoxic chemicals will show you when bad weather is coming too. You can purchase those on Amazon.
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Currently I live with my wife and 3 girls in Florida. As long as we get live weather updates, we know when to bunker down for a hurricane or tornado. But what do we do when the lights go out when there's nobody running the NOAA or SPC at the government office? How will we know when a storm is coming?

What about you preppers in Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Texas, Kansas, Kentucky? How do you know when a tornado is coming without the NOAA warning you? Are you worried?

My family has a bugout (really a vacation home) in Idaho. I know realistically in an actual SHTF situation we'll never make it out there in time so we're looking to buy a property in Kentucky. But my wife is worried about storms.

Any suggestions to calm her?
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Not bad in Kentucky other than Brandenburg in 1974. The clouds get a greenish cast and then you know it's possible. Rare. I've seen tornadoes form in Indiana. It looks like a finger pointing down as it develops. Seldom an issue.
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I've read all of your replies! Thank you! What do you know about north Central Kentucky? That's where my friend is now and he wants us to move there. He's building a nice home with a bunker. Thanks in advance.
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Name a county.
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Currently I live with my wife and 3 girls in Florida. As long as we get live weather updates, we know when to bunker down for a hurricane or tornado. But what do we do when the lights go out when there's nobody running the NOAA or SPC at the government office? How will we know when a storm is coming?

What about you preppers in Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Texas, Kansas, Kentucky? How do you know when a tornado is coming without the NOAA warning you? Are you worried?

My family has a bugout (really a vacation home) in Idaho. I know realistically in an actual SHTF situation we'll never make it out there in time so we're looking to buy a property in Kentucky. But my wife is worried about storms.

Any suggestions to calm her?
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Do the same thing they do IN the Rockies:

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Currently I live with my wife and 3 girls in Florida. As long as we get live weather updates, we know when to bunker down for a hurricane or tornado. But what do we do when the lights go out when there's nobody running the NOAA or SPC at the government office? How will we know when a storm is coming?

What about you preppers in Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Texas, Kansas, Kentucky? How do you know when a tornado is coming without the NOAA warning you? Are you worried?

My family has a bugout (really a vacation home) in Idaho. I know realistically in an actual SHTF situation we'll never make it out there in time so we're looking to buy a property in Kentucky. But my wife is worried about storms.

Any suggestions to calm her?
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Not bad in Kentucky other than Brandenburg in 1974. The clouds get a greenish cast and then you know it's possible. Rare. I've seen tornadoes form in Indiana. It looks like a finger pointing down as it develops. Seldom an issue.
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I've read all of your replies! Thank you! What do you know about north Central Kentucky? That's where my friend is now and he wants us to move there. He's building a nice home with a bunker. Thanks in advance.
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Name a county.
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Mason/Fleming?
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You live in Florida and your wife worries about storms in Kentucky?
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It's important to assess any property for radon. Notice the low levels in western KY (blue and green).

You buy a tester that sits in the location and then send it off for analysis.

A lonnnng time ago, I looked at a property and the real estate agent didn't say boo, but I noticed a symbol on a pipe, then was angry as they had failed to mention radon was present. What a jerk.
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Mason and Fleming is Eastern KY. Can't help you.
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If you see a tornado, it's safer to run towards it because you can't outrun it. That way you'll show dominance and it will back away. Raise your arms and shout "No tornado!!! No!!! Go Away tornado!!!".
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Not much you can do except get to the center of the home.. assuming it is a house and not a tiny/mobile home.

Otherwise, invest in a true storm shelter. You can use it as storage all year round.
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^^^^ this make a root cellar/ storm shelter.
Probably won't work in Florida because of the water table. Also have an emergency weather radio you can use when the power is out.
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My Woman bought me a Suunto Core wristwatch for Christmas. It has an extremely accurate Barometer and a Storm Alarm feature that does not depend on any electronic signals. This watch has no transmitter or receiver. The storm alarm goes off every 30min when a severe drop in pressure is taking place.

The barometer in this inexpensive wristwatch is so sensitive it knows if I am upstairs or downstairs in my home. It automatically records 7 day history of the barometric pressure in 30min intervals.

The Suunto Core is intended for hiking and mountain climbing off grid out of cell phone range. Again it does not receive any signals from any device.

MAGA
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I've studied tornado averages for 25 years. This map is interesting. [link to wordpress.accuweather.com (secure)]
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