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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77962314 United States 01/09/2020 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I experience sleep paralysis about once every 1-2 months for the last 10-15 years. Usually it involves demons or dark shadowy figures. Anyways, last night was the most intense I've ever had, yet slightly different, so felt like this is the place to share. Quoting: < DL > Basically everything was fine in my dream, I was in a different and peaceful setting when suddenly my sisters pointed behind me and said watch out. At that point my eyes open up and I'm in my bedroom, completely paralyzed unable to move. I somehow roll out of the bed onto the floor. The bedroom door (which was closed and locked) opened and demon hands arms grabbed me and tried pulling me through the door into the hallway. I can't really remember what happened next, but eventually I woke up in bed and was finally able to move. The bedroom door I had closed and locked was open, and the glass of water I keep on the ground next to bed was spilled. Anyways, This is where things always end, but it didn't end here even though I was awake. I turned on the TV and lights on in the bedroom, went to the bathroom, checked my phone and sat up watching TV. I kept hearing pounding, crashes throughout the house, things morphing as if I was tripping on shrooms/acid and continuously getting poked from 1-4am. Anyone ever experience crazy things happening hours after your sleep paralysis has ended? Also, probably doesn't mean anything, but I heard 6 loud knocks on my backdoor yesterday during the evening when I was in the shower. The knocking sounded like that of a police officer so I jumped out of shower to see who the fuck was pounding on my door and no one was there. I have a nest cam and no one was at front door. I also had 2 black cats cross street yesterday. Thoughts? My sleep paralysis experiences only ended after calling to Jesus Christ during them. They were extremely terrifying. Anytime I am afraid, he is the first one I pray too immediately. I just answered that theory. You can do the same thing through your WILL and belief in YOURSELF. It's the faith that you put into the word Jesus that worked not the power of the word. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74483359 Canada 01/09/2020 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I experience sleep paralysis about once every 1-2 months for the last 10-15 years. Usually it involves demons or dark shadowy figures. Anyways, last night was the most intense I've ever had, yet slightly different, so felt like this is the place to share. Quoting: < DL > Basically everything was fine in my dream, I was in a different and peaceful setting when suddenly my sisters pointed behind me and said watch out. At that point my eyes open up and I'm in my bedroom, completely paralyzed unable to move. I somehow roll out of the bed onto the floor. The bedroom door (which was closed and locked) opened and demon hands arms grabbed me and tried pulling me through the door into the hallway. I can't really remember what happened next, but eventually I woke up in bed and was finally able to move. The bedroom door I had closed and locked was open, and the glass of water I keep on the ground next to bed was spilled. Anyways, This is where things always end, but it didn't end here even though I was awake. I turned on the TV and lights on in the bedroom, went to the bathroom, checked my phone and sat up watching TV. I kept hearing pounding, crashes throughout the house, things morphing as if I was tripping on shrooms/acid and continuously getting poked from 1-4am. Anyone ever experience crazy things happening hours after your sleep paralysis has ended? Also, probably doesn't mean anything, but I heard 6 loud knocks on my backdoor yesterday during the evening when I was in the shower. The knocking sounded like that of a police officer so I jumped out of shower to see who the fuck was pounding on my door and no one was there. I have a nest cam and no one was at front door. I also had 2 black cats cross street yesterday. Thoughts? My sleep paralysis experiences only ended after calling to Jesus Christ during them. They were extremely terrifying. Anytime I am afraid, he is the first one I pray too immediately. I just answered that theory. You can do the same thing through your WILL and belief in YOURSELF. It's the faith that you put into the word Jesus that worked not the power of the word. Jesus Christ is a real authority, his answer to prayer is proof. |
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Itl83
User ID: 23740589 United States 01/09/2020 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone ever- A-heard like a "wind" sound while falling asleep that gets closer and louder before the episode begins? -or- B-when you try to fight it, you're trying to run away but you're not even in your body? The latter happened to me about 10 yrs ago and I remember waking up to SP combined with the feeling of like a grinding lazer sound-lind of like what and MRI sounds like except I could feel it to the side of my temple; and when I "ran away" I looked back and saw myself sleeping on the couch. As always, could never open my eyes all the way but there looked to be more than one SHORT, shadowy things in the room...its like I couldn't open my eyes but I had limited visibility. I've had semi-regular SP (maybe 2 times within a weeks time every 2/3 months) for the last 15-20 yrs, but this time in particular I was sleeping at a friends house in the basement and immediately "jumped up to the feeling like some kind of lazer was being shot into the side of my head, but I could literally see the couch when I turned my head back trying to go up the stairs. To this day I feel like it was some type of encounter-I just dont know what was done to me; i could definitely feel it and I was conscious of it happening trying to run away up the stairs but i had no body. Lately they have been more of a levitation feeling where I feel as if i'm being pulled upwards when I'm trying to fight it/wake up with the eyes that won't open. I have a couple others but for the sake of not writing a thesis, chose 2 that stick out to me vs the others... Can anyone relate to this "laser" thing? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77962314 United States 01/09/2020 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! I'm so glad to have seen this pinned at the top and read everyone's experiences. Quoting: Itl83 Has anyone ever- A-heard like a "wind" sound while falling asleep that gets closer and louder before the episode begins? -or- B-when you try to fight it, you're trying to run away but you're not even in your body? The latter happened to me about 10 yrs ago and I remember waking up to SP combined with the feeling of like a grinding lazer sound-lind of like what and MRI sounds like except I could feel it to the side of my temple; and when I "ran away" I looked back and saw myself sleeping on the couch. As always, could never open my eyes all the way but there looked to be more than one SHORT, shadowy things in the room...its like I couldn't open my eyes but I had limited visibility. I've had semi-regular SP (maybe 2 times within a weeks time every 2/3 months) for the last 15-20 yrs, but this time in particular I was sleeping at a friends house in the basement and immediately "jumped up to the feeling like some kind of lazer was being shot into the side of my head, but I could literally see the couch when I turned my head back trying to go up the stairs. To this day I feel like it was some type of encounter-I just dont know what was done to me; i could definitely feel it and I was conscious of it happening trying to run away up the stairs but i had no body. Lately they have been more of a levitation feeling where I feel as if i'm being pulled upwards when I'm trying to fight it/wake up with the eyes that won't open. I have a couple others but for the sake of not writing a thesis, chose 2 that stick out to me vs the others... Can anyone relate to this "laser" thing? Yes you can reach this state through meditation. |
samOmighty
User ID: 75969252 United States 01/09/2020 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I experience sleep paralysis about once every 1-2 months for the last 10-15 years. Usually it involves demons or dark shadowy figures. Anyways, last night was the most intense I've ever had, yet slightly different, so felt like this is the place to share. Quoting: < DL > Basically everything was fine in my dream, I was in a different and peaceful setting when suddenly my sisters pointed behind me and said watch out. At that point my eyes open up and I'm in my bedroom, completely paralyzed unable to move. I somehow roll out of the bed onto the floor. The bedroom door (which was closed and locked) opened and demon hands arms grabbed me and tried pulling me through the door into the hallway. I can't really remember what happened next, but eventually I woke up in bed and was finally able to move. The bedroom door I had closed and locked was open, and the glass of water I keep on the ground next to bed was spilled. Anyways, This is where things always end, but it didn't end here even though I was awake. I turned on the TV and lights on in the bedroom, went to the bathroom, checked my phone and sat up watching TV. I kept hearing pounding, crashes throughout the house, things morphing as if I was tripping on shrooms/acid and continuously getting poked from 1-4am. Anyone ever experience crazy things happening hours after your sleep paralysis has ended? Also, probably doesn't mean anything, but I heard 6 loud knocks on my backdoor yesterday during the evening when I was in the shower. The knocking sounded like that of a police officer so I jumped out of shower to see who the fuck was pounding on my door and no one was there. I have a nest cam and no one was at front door. I also had 2 black cats cross street yesterday. Thoughts? Yes, I have also had issues after awaking and trying to calm down. From what I understand, the chemicals in your brain are still very much out of whack which is why you are continuing to experience both visual and auditory hallucinations. There is a period of time where your brain will overload you with these chemicals to prevent you from getting up and causing major physical damage to yourself. Most of the time when you magically wake yourself up, you still cannot move but you can open your eyes and continue to see the demon in your room. Other times when you force yourself awake, while the chemicals are still active but not as heavy as above, you can get up and experience the dream-like effects in real life. Side note: I read many years ago (from a religious POV) that the best way to overcome the demonic encounter is to remember - while you are having one of these night terrors - to demand the demon say its name. When you finally wake up, write the name down and then research the name of it to learn about it. It might shed some light on why it is happening to you. Is it the same demon that is visiting you or are they different? I don't know if I believe that ^ above but, I could never remember to ask for its name in my dreams. The dreams are always the WORST! Last Edited by samOmighty on 01/09/2020 05:50 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77962314 United States 01/09/2020 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I experience sleep paralysis about once every 1-2 months for the last 10-15 years. Usually it involves demons or dark shadowy figures. Anyways, last night was the most intense I've ever had, yet slightly different, so felt like this is the place to share. Quoting: < DL > Basically everything was fine in my dream, I was in a different and peaceful setting when suddenly my sisters pointed behind me and said watch out. At that point my eyes open up and I'm in my bedroom, completely paralyzed unable to move. I somehow roll out of the bed onto the floor. The bedroom door (which was closed and locked) opened and demon hands arms grabbed me and tried pulling me through the door into the hallway. I can't really remember what happened next, but eventually I woke up in bed and was finally able to move. The bedroom door I had closed and locked was open, and the glass of water I keep on the ground next to bed was spilled. Anyways, This is where things always end, but it didn't end here even though I was awake. I turned on the TV and lights on in the bedroom, went to the bathroom, checked my phone and sat up watching TV. I kept hearing pounding, crashes throughout the house, things morphing as if I was tripping on shrooms/acid and continuously getting poked from 1-4am. Anyone ever experience crazy things happening hours after your sleep paralysis has ended? Also, probably doesn't mean anything, but I heard 6 loud knocks on my backdoor yesterday during the evening when I was in the shower. The knocking sounded like that of a police officer so I jumped out of shower to see who the fuck was pounding on my door and no one was there. I have a nest cam and no one was at front door. I also had 2 black cats cross street yesterday. Thoughts? My sleep paralysis experiences only ended after calling to Jesus Christ during them. They were extremely terrifying. Anytime I am afraid, he is the first one I pray too immediately. I just answered that theory. You can do the same thing through your WILL and belief in YOURSELF. It's the faith that you put into the word Jesus that worked not the power of the word. Jesus Christ is a real authority, his answer to prayer is proof. That's not even his real name. The real divine names : YOD-HEH-VAV-HEH, AH-DOH-NAI, EH-HEH-YEH, YE-HOH-VOH E-LOH-HEEM, YE-HOH-VOH EL-OAH-VE-DA-ATH, SHAH-DAI EL CHAI, AH-DOH-NAI HA-AH-RETZ. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10195274 United States 01/09/2020 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're not in control of your breathing because it's on auto pilot. Take conscious control of your breath and it will wake the rest of your body up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11750255 United States 01/09/2020 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I experience sleep paralysis about once every 1-2 months for the last 10-15 years. Usually it involves demons or dark shadowy figures. Anyways, last night was the most intense I've ever had, yet slightly different, so felt like this is the place to share. Quoting: < DL > Basically everything was fine in my dream, I was in a different and peaceful setting when suddenly my sisters pointed behind me and said watch out. At that point my eyes open up and I'm in my bedroom, completely paralyzed unable to move. I somehow roll out of the bed onto the floor. The bedroom door (which was closed and locked) opened and demon hands arms grabbed me and tried pulling me through the door into the hallway. I can't really remember what happened next, but eventually I woke up in bed and was finally able to move. The bedroom door I had closed and locked was open, and the glass of water I keep on the ground next to bed was spilled. Anyways, This is where things always end, but it didn't end here even though I was awake. I turned on the TV and lights on in the bedroom, went to the bathroom, checked my phone and sat up watching TV. I kept hearing pounding, crashes throughout the house, things morphing as if I was tripping on shrooms/acid and continuously getting poked from 1-4am. Anyone ever experience crazy things happening hours after your sleep paralysis has ended? Also, probably doesn't mean anything, but I heard 6 loud knocks on my backdoor yesterday during the evening when I was in the shower. The knocking sounded like that of a police officer so I jumped out of shower to see who the fuck was pounding on my door and no one was there. I have a nest cam and no one was at front door. I also had 2 black cats cross street yesterday. Thoughts? Call Amy from Dead Files and get her and Steve out there ASAP |
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canalien*
User ID: 120700 Canada 01/09/2020 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Always running up and down stairs, can't find my way out. Always the same people involved , only they are scary, ugly , dressed for like Halloween disguises. Sometimes Marilyn Manson type with knives Last week same thing happened, only it was in a casino type setting. Only dressed oddly. I'm trying to get out, I find myself outside ugly men saying look at this picture. I don't know who it was I started to leave I knew they were going to grab me . They did, trying to kill me I tried screaming for help, I couldn't I was almost dead. My husband woke me up and says, what's going on. I woke up, I was terrified I rolled out of bed on right side ,then jumped to the Other side of bed shaking and crying. I have bruises all over the right side of my body It felt so real. They've never been so close to me before |
Jungus
User ID: 78314377 Australia 01/09/2020 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get sleep paralysis too. Can be very unsettling. One time I remember something that actualy gave me comfort, I was in the state with a dog growling on my stomach, but I came out of it and was aware quite quickly, my stomach was rumbling and I realised my mind had made that the dog. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23265764 United States 01/09/2020 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not going to get into a argument or discussion about marijuana except that I will say that is is a sin so if you want God to help you you're going to have to quit this and ask for God's help and then Jesus will help you and you will have the power yourself with the Holy Spirit in you to rebuke these beings and send them back to the pit of Hell where they came from |
ScrumpTheTexan
Forum Administrator 01/09/2020 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone ever- Quoting: Itl83 A-heard like a "wind" sound while falling asleep that gets closer and louder before the episode begins? Mine were often accompanied by a "rushing sound" in my head/ears... I suppose that could be construed as a wind sound. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77962314 United States 01/09/2020 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not going to get into a argument or discussion about marijuana except that I will say that is is a sin so if you want God to help you you're going to have to quit this and ask for God's help and then Jesus will help you and you will have the power yourself with the Holy Spirit in you to rebuke these beings and send them back to the pit of Hell where they came from Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23265764 Man you're retarded. |
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User ID: 77975641 Canada 01/09/2020 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In fact this is only low astral.and other...he yes possible the logs fall down and .. Quoting: beau voir they are powerful in hynopthm ...continual of our lives (THEY ALREADY EXIST AT VARIOUS LEVELS) take and this is the best advice I can say to the people attacked in any way,TAKE AUTHORITY FIRMLY YES the sounds so loud that you think your will become jello((because that's the feeling) this is a laboratory test to which ...a participating doctor targets you with his machines (D.ONDES) and vlan... Hell on earth for those who don't know, know the techniques etc.they're trapped and often the therapist (hypnostism will make you sign a contract, like stop smoking,NEVER SIGN ANY CONTRACT) it is very urgent for (ALL) people to understand and accept that 100 years here is nothing in relation to eternity, this is simple, your body becomes food, vitamin? for the years of decomposition+no you have a vitality that resurrects after leaving the body realize , and after a long struggle of all sorts of things in which (WE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO BELIEVE ...) whether you want it or NOT, each of the ladies goes , to justice DIVINE(persevere it as you wish but ...) AND THIS IS OUR GENERATION=OUR MOMENT NOW FACING TRUE JUSTICE FOR THE SAME AMEN. beau voir |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77962314 United States 01/09/2020 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not going to get into a argument or discussion about marijuana except that I will say that is is a sin so if you want God to help you you're going to have to quit this and ask for God's help and then Jesus will help you and you will have the power yourself with the Holy Spirit in you to rebuke these beings and send them back to the pit of Hell where they came from Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23265764 People like you have literally killed Christianity. You're on here judging people and telling them what's good and bad. Go read your book again maybe next time you will comprehend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78323958 United States 01/09/2020 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you been involved in drugs or the occult? It's quite common if so. Used to happen to me a lot, until I got out of the lifestyle. Quoting: Urban Mythbuster Well, with the dope they've got nowadays, at 23%+ THC, it can cause all kinds of hysteria, psychosis, paranoia, hallucinations, etc... And all of these mindsets are invitation to demonic activity. Don't make light of it. People who scoff at this, are simply too stoned (or stupid) to perceive reality accurately. |
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User ID: 77975641 Canada 01/09/2020 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In fact this is only low astral.and other...he yes possible the logs fall down and .. Quoting: beau voir they are powerful in hynopthm ...continual of our lives (THEY ALREADY EXIST AT VARIOUS LEVELS) take and this is the best advice I can say to the people attacked in any way,TAKE AUTHORITY FIRMLY YES the sounds so loud that you think your will become jello((because that's the feeling) this is a laboratory test to which ...a participating doctor targets you with his machines (D.ONDES) and vlan... Hell on earth for those who don't know, know the techniques etc.they're trapped and often the therapist (hypnostism will make you sign a contract, like stop smoking,NEVER SIGN ANY CONTRACT) it is very urgent for (ALL) people to understand and accept that 100 years here is nothing in relation to eternity, this is simple, your body becomes food, vitamin? for the years of decomposition+no you have a vitality that resurrects after leaving the body realize , and after a long struggle of all sorts of things in which (WE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO BELIEVE ...) whether you want it or NOT, each of the ladies goes , to justice DIVINE(persevere it as you wish but ...) AND THIS IS OUR GENERATION=OUR MOMENT NOW FACING TRUE JUSTICE FOR THE SAME AMEN. realize , and after a long struggle of all sorts of things in which (WE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO BELIEVE ...) whether you want it or NOT, each of the ladies goes , to justice DIVINE(persevere it as you wish but ...) AND THIS IS OUR GENERATION=OUR MOMENT NOW FACING TRUE JUSTICE FOR THE SAME AMEN. excuse my translator but it's like the rest they impose on us... beau voir |
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VenusRose
User ID: 36951365 Romania 01/09/2020 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! I'm so glad to have seen this pinned at the top and read everyone's experiences. Quoting: Itl83 Has anyone ever- A-heard like a "wind" sound while falling asleep that gets closer and louder before the episode begins? -or- B-when you try to fight it, you're trying to run away but you're not even in your body? The latter happened to me about 10 yrs ago and I remember waking up to SP combined with the feeling of like a grinding lazer sound-lind of like what and MRI sounds like except I could feel it to the side of my temple; and when I "ran away" I looked back and saw myself sleeping on the couch. As always, could never open my eyes all the way but there looked to be more than one SHORT, shadowy things in the room...its like I couldn't open my eyes but I had limited visibility. I've had semi-regular SP (maybe 2 times within a weeks time every 2/3 months) for the last 15-20 yrs, but this time in particular I was sleeping at a friends house in the basement and immediately "jumped up to the feeling like some kind of lazer was being shot into the side of my head, but I could literally see the couch when I turned my head back trying to go up the stairs. To this day I feel like it was some type of encounter-I just dont know what was done to me; i could definitely feel it and I was conscious of it happening trying to run away up the stairs but i had no body. Lately they have been more of a levitation feeling where I feel as if i'm being pulled upwards when I'm trying to fight it/wake up with the eyes that won't open. I have a couple others but for the sake of not writing a thesis, chose 2 that stick out to me vs the others... Can anyone relate to this "laser" thing? A - yes that is how it happened to me my first sp happened after a revelatory dream in which in short i was judged by jesus. at some point i started to hear a high pitched sound and woke up in SP unable to move but conscious of body next one a few years after, i bacem awake as i was feeling a magnetic pull upwards starteing from my feet. i was like half a feet above when i managed to open the phsyical eyes the next 2 happened some more years after, after having my life changing experience of illumination and after around 1 year of non stop heart meditation and cutting all junk habits and being only veggie and plain water first was triggered by heart center activation inside a dream at the sight of some succubs. i became suddenly conscious of the body being pulled magentically upwards. Again i couldn't see. What was different was that my heart center was active and as i was centered into heart there was a feeling of safety and control. But my mind kept wanting to see if i'm really going upwards so i kept trying to open my eyes, which led to moving focus from hear and unable to control my uplift. when i estimated i was about to go through the roof i decided to woke up. Only a few days later i woke up in the middle of the night. While preparing to go back to sleep i suddenly started to hear very clear like a 3D surround a nature soundscape with a spring of water and some birds chirping and at the same time my hear tcenter was active. it was so loud and real that i got out of bed to go wash my face wondering what the heck was that. but as i got out of bed i realized the obvious that i was not in the physical body, but in it's etheric counterpart. the body was the same but no muscels or any other phsycail sensation, just the magentic pulse in the heart centre from which i was able to control my movement. Walking in that realm felt like i was on 2 magnetic ice skates. This time i had full sight. I experimented in reality for a bit till at some point i woke back up in the physical body Last Edited by VenusRose on 01/09/2020 06:39 PM |
Noctilus
User ID: 70377629 Czechia 01/09/2020 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes sleep paralysis is not sleep paralysis. Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith I think you may have entered the astral, but did not know how to recognize what was happening, or how to banish the nasties. Yes, there are many nasties out there. quite possible, all the creeps wait for the first timers so to say...then use their lack of knowledge (not meant to be derogatory here) to scare them and have them be afraid to do so again, to be scared to fall asleep and so on...great loosh farm IMO, but not so great for us |