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Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?

 
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Is the idea of National Socialism really a bad thing. You most likely live in an neighborhood that is prominently the same race as you. Some places also live based on religion. So is it really such a bad thing? When you get your hair cut almost everyone wants a person of their color to be the one to cut their hair. It’s not because that person is racist, it’s because they know the other person of the same heritage knows how to deal with it more. It’s common sense.

People also tend to lean toward their own heritage already no matter if they are White, Black, Chinese, Mexican,Russian the list goes on. So the people that are saying that the people that bring up Nationalism or National Socialist are Racist or they are Nazi. They are not and most likely don’t give two fucks about you! Most never think about or complain about another Heritage unless it has to do with giving them money or when the other Heritage does something the other does not like.

It does not make anyone fucking racist it’s just common fucking Logical Thinking and Behavior. The quicker everyone figures this shit out the better and only then will anytimg be at peace and everyone will be held accountable.

Also National Socialism and the being a Socialist are two different things. Socialism by itself would never work because the hard workers are not going to continue to work to feed the lazy. Were as in National Socialism a person is more likely to pull their own share of responsibility for the better if the whole heritage. This goes back to the not giving a fuck about color unless it starts to mess with money or daily activities.
 Quoting: NFGWolf


OP, National Socialism has been “successful” only in high IQ countries that were homogenous, had a work ethic, and felt united. Germany, Sweden, Etc.

and only for a time, as it leads to the same end as marxism.

The problems are many:
The tendency toward totalitarianism as in Germany.(and, well, that didnt end well, but I honestly dont think this was the main cause of that)
If the country becomes less homogenous, and takes in people who dont have shared values, or the same work ethic, as in Sweden, the whole thing falls apart. Then totalitarianism happens.

It has the same problem that communism has, it puts equality over freedom. Which is destructive of human liberty.

As an American, I find that unacceptable.
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OP, do you see this longsword I hold? This sword is razor sharp. This sword is real. This is no ceremonial piece. If I cut my head off while practicing angles with this sword, that's on me.

You know why I keep this battle hardened razor sharp sword, OP? Because life is a two-edged sword. And we walk a razor's edge of personal free-will. The second we forget that perfect and true free will to become all that our Creator meant for us to be as individuals, we cut off our own heads.

And to give government the power to be your vicarious God and nanny is to cut off your own head with this double-edged sword.

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Whoa....

That is really you?
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Hey OP....your ignorance is showing

Read J. Edgar Hoover's - Masters of deceit...if you want to know the demonic truth about socialism.

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Socialism works great until the printed money runs out (or is worthless) THEN this is a easily the next step +-

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The only official definition of Fascism comes from Benito Mussolini, the founder of fascism, in which he outlines three principles of a fascist philosophy.
1."Everything in the state". The Government is supreme and the country is all-encompasing, and all within it must conform to the ruling body, often a dictator.
2."Nothing outside the state". The country must grow and the implied goal of any fascist nation is to rule the world, and have every human submit to the government.
3."Nothing against the state". Any type of questioning the government is not to be tolerated. If you do not see things our way, you are wrong. If you do not agree with the government, you cannot be allowed to live and taint the minds of the rest of the good citizens.

The use of militarism was implied only as a means to accomplish one of the three above principles, mainly to keep the people and rest of the world in line. Fascist countries are known for their harmony and lack of internal strife. There are no conflicting parties or elections in fascist countries.
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Go take a google maps trip around Moscow and look at the acres & acres of shitty housing projects if you think socialism/communism is such a great idea. You'll be herded around like cattle with few if any personal choices about where you live, what you drive, where you work, what you buy, the phone you use, etc.

If you really hate having personal choice & basic freedoms then by all means choose socialism or communism! LOL.


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You do know they deliberately made Communism bad don't you? They deliberately made Communism and places like Russia as a shithole. The reason they did that is so that when the masses in other countries demanded a fairer society and a fairer distribution of wealth they could say that doesn't work look at countries like Russia.

Communism was set up to fail to frighten us. There are no logical reasons as to why we can't have a fair society and a fair distribution of wealth.
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yeah look what is happening in Europe moron

all their rights are being taken away we will fight to the death
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What rights are being taken away from us Europeans?
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Go take a google maps trip around Moscow and look at the acres & acres of shitty housing projects if you think socialism/communism is such a great idea. You'll be herded around like cattle with few if any personal choices about where you live, what you drive, where you work, what you buy, the phone you use, etc.

If you really hate having personal choice & basic freedoms then by all means choose socialism or communism! LOL.


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You do know they deliberately made Communism bad don't you? They deliberately made Communism and places like Russia as a shithole. The reason they did that is so that when the masses in other countries demanded a fairer society and a fairer distribution of wealth they could say that doesn't work look at countries like Russia.

Communism was set up to fail to frighten us. There are no logical reasons as to why we can't have a fair society and a fair distribution of wealth.
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Were as in National Socialism
 Quoting: NFGWolf


"Socialism" in any form is another way of saying "idiotic leftism/liberalism."

People who are comfortable with that word might just as well say, "to hell with rationality, logic, honesty and ethics. Legitimate compassion too."


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 Quoting: CSnow


You have just proved how stupid you are.

You CANNOT be both a leftist and a liberal you brain dead moran.
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Is the idea of National Socialism really a bad thing. You most likely live in an neighborhood that is prominently the same race as you. Some places also live based on religion. So is it really such a bad thing? When you get your hair cut almost everyone wants a person of their color to be the one to cut their hair. It’s not because that person is racist, it’s because they know the other person of the same heritage knows how to deal with it more. It’s common sense.

People also tend to lean toward their own heritage already no matter if they are White, Black, Chinese, Mexican,Russian the list goes on. So the people that are saying that the people that bring up Nationalism or National Socialist are Racist or they are Nazi. They are not and most likely don’t give two fucks about you! Most never think about or complain about another Heritage unless it has to do with giving them money or when the other Heritage does something the other does not like.

It does not make anyone fucking racist it’s just common fucking Logical Thinking and Behavior. The quicker everyone figures this shit out the better and only then will anytimg be at peace and everyone will be held accountable.

Also National Socialism and the being a Socialist are two different things. Socialism by itself would never work because the hard workers are not going to continue to work to feed the lazy. Were as in National Socialism a person is more likely to pull their own share of responsibility for the better if the whole heritage. This goes back to the not giving a fuck about color unless it starts to mess with money or daily activities.
 Quoting: NFGWolf


I disagree with your entire premise. I enjoy living around people of different cultures and color. The first 15 years of my life were spent cloistered in a community that was predominantly wealthy and white. Then we moved and the world opened up to me! It was if my life went from black and white to technicolor!
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Btw

Even Lenin said all forms of socialism are stepping stones to communism
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They are for sure. Idk why people don’t look to history to answer this question. Just boggles my mind.
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Yes, because itll be the same situation as it is now. Half the population dont want to work and feel as though they are entitled to be supported by the other half.

Same thing with guns. The democrats think that they should be the only ones with guns.

The democrats are a bunch of low iq children that think that their opinions matter more than everyone else’s because theyre right and everyone else is wrong
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OP, you really haven't defined national socialism correctly. National socialism places the betterment of the nation before the betterment of the individual. This is a very dangerous position and inherently problematic. In practice, it always leads to tyranny. Tyranny is its natural conclusion.


I think you are being disingenuous with your description.
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


No, not just "before", the individual flat doesn't exist in national socialism. The state is God. Hegelianism is national socialism.

National socialism will always end up looking like Nazism, because it is Nazism.
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What other countries, besides Germany, have or have had a national socialist government and how did it work out for them?
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National socialism will always end up looking like Nazism, because it is Nazism.
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In general, it's giving power to people who have about as much logic, common sense, rationality and integrity - and compassion - as a 15-year-old dope-smoking, shoplifting, late-for-work/unemployed, impregnating-aborting drop-out.

The epitome of Nazism, Adolph Hitler, by the way, was a homosexual, Islam-respecting, animal-rights-loving, vegan-favoring, artist-painting-liking, Socialist-tolerant person.

He pinged a lot of traits associated with a garden-variety liberal/leftist.


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Another idiot.

You cannot be a liberal leftist. You can either be a Liberal or you can be a Leftist. You CANNOT be both a Liberal AND a Leftist.
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If you want national socialism why don't you move to a country that has it, and leave this one alone?

The United States of America is founded on the principles of liberty and the right for the pursuit of happiness.

Socialism does not grant those principles.
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Maybe but the US has been communist since 1913, with the introduction of the Federal Reserve

then the Income Tax in 1916.

Both one of the ten planks of the communist manifesto.

Others are state-owned land and gubmint public schools.

Yeah, we have meat, bread and circuses unlike Russia

but we are a communist nation.
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OP, National Socialism has been “successful” only in high IQ countries that were homogenous, had a work ethic, and felt united. Germany, Sweden, Etc.
 Quoting: Seagull Lake


Liberalism/leftism requires everything in a society be in perfect working order. Most societies are naturally not in perfect working order. And they'll never be.

Liberalism/leftism is similar to an honor system at work. Free food, free snacks and free office supplies may work just as long as employees don't end up exploiting the perks. Most people aren't reliable or responsible enough when it comes to such nicey-huggy things.

Northern European countries could survive for awhile in spite of their libtardism because of boutique-type demographics ("Limousine Liberals" filtering out half-assed "proletariat" types) and natural resources like North Sea oil.

Most parts of the world do not have boutique demographics and North Sea oil. Even Venezuela, sitting on top of abundant oil supplies, has not withstood the effects of idiotic liberalism/leftism.

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National socialism will always end up looking like Nazism, because it is Nazism.
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In general, it's giving power to people who have about as much logic, common sense, rationality and integrity - and compassion - as a 15-year-old dope-smoking, shoplifting, late-for-work/unemployed, impregnating-aborting drop-out.

The epitome of Nazism, Adolph Hitler, by the way, was a homosexual, Islam-respecting, animal-rights-loving, vegan-favoring, artist-painting-liking, Socialist-tolerant person.

He pinged a lot of traits associated with a garden-variety liberal/leftist.


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 Quoting: CSnow


Another idiot.

You cannot be a liberal leftist. You can either be a Liberal or you can be a Leftist. You CANNOT be both a Liberal AND a Leftist.
 Quoting: jimmyduffy


another fucktard that thinks he can apply the political labels of his fucking shithole country to another

liberal/leftists in the USA are different than in your failing shithole

liberals in this country are not actually "liberal" anymore...they call themselves that so we call them that back...but they are far from classical liberals like Jefferson was...

classical liberals used to believe in smaller government, more freedom, less taxes and no war

classical liberals of the past are more like modern libertarians now

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OP, do you see this longsword I hold? This sword is razor sharp. This sword is real. This is no ceremonial piece. If I cut my head off while practicing angles with this sword, that's on me.

You know why I keep this battle hardened razor sharp sword, OP? Because life is a two-edged sword. And we walk a razor's edge of personal free-will. The second we forget that perfect and true free will to become all that our Creator meant for us to be as individuals, we cut off our own heads.

And to give government the power to be your vicarious God and nanny is to cut off your own head with this double-edged sword.

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Whoa....

That is really you?
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Well...yes.

I was doing my Jeremiah 50:35 meditation.
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You cannot be a liberal leftist. You can either be a Liberal or you can be a Leftist. You CANNOT be both a Liberal AND a Leftist.
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A difference without much or any distinction.

All people of the left pride themselves on a masturbatory type of "I feel your pain."

Do such people, from an Obama to a Chavez-Maduro, ever brag about how inhumane and non-compassionate they are? Nope.

They all share the common trait of beating off to "I care about people, I care about humanity" ideology. They're similar to hookers using and exploiting a guy's need to get orgasms now and then.


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I disagree with your entire premise. I enjoy living around people of different cultures and color. The first 15 years of my life were spent cloistered in a community that was predominantly wealthy and white. Then we moved and the world opened up to me! It was if my life went from black and white to technicolor!
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I wanted to chime in and say that I've had the exact opposite experience as you. White areas tend to have low crime rates and very nice people. When you start adding blacks to the population, things don't become more "technicolor", they just become worse. The more blacks you add, the worse things become, until you are left with Detroit and Johannesburg (South Africa).

The diversity you speak of is a temporary state that rapidly becomes non-diverse as whites are replaced by the invading populations. Your "pleasant diversity" is literally just the process of extinction for white people.

Multiculturalism is clearly a failure. Take a look at the current state of Sweden and Germany. Take a good and honest look at what is happening to Europe.

Take a look at interracial crime statistics. Africa is a cesspool of rape and murder and we are to believe that importing huge numbers of their people to our countries is supposed to be a good thing? How can any thinking person believe that?

This thread is about national socialism, so I may be going off topic in my response here, but it needs to be said. You don't need to be a national socialist to reject the insanity of multiculturalism and the sick white genocide agenda that is being pushed on us. Everybody should reject the white genocide agenda. It is pure evil.
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Go take a google maps trip around Moscow and look at the acres & acres of shitty housing projects if you think socialism/communism is such a great idea. You'll be herded around like cattle with few if any personal choices about where you live, what you drive, where you work, what you buy, the phone you use, etc.

If you really hate having personal choice & basic freedoms then by all means choose socialism or communism! LOL.


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You do know they deliberately made Communism bad don't you? They deliberately made Communism and places like Russia as a shithole. The reason they did that is so that when the masses in other countries demanded a fairer society and a fairer distribution of wealth they could say that doesn't work look at countries like Russia.

Communism was set up to fail to frighten us. There are no logical reasons as to why we can't have a fair society and a fair distribution of wealth.
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Lol norespect
I suppose the 100’s or millions that these countries communist leaders killed of their own people were just to make them look bad too?

I can’t believe that you even took the time to type that. Just wow.

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We already have welfare, lots of it...with socialism THEY get to choose who gets it! Would you like Alexandria Cortez deciding if you're worthy based on your social credit score?
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Define "fair".
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yeah look what is happening in Europe moron

all their rights are being taken away we will fight to the death
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What rights are being taken away from us Europeans?
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Go to FB and rant against Islam and how the police are protecting them when they commit crimes. Get back to us with time/date stamped screenshots and let us know how that works out for you
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We already have welfare, lots of it...with socialism THEY get to choose who gets it! Would you like Alexandria Cortez deciding if you're worthy based on your social credit score?
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"Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and workers' self-management of the means of production[10] as well as the political theories and movements associated with them.[11] Social ownership can be public, collective or cooperative ownership, or to citizen ownership of equity.[12] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] where social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms." Wikipedia
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The national socialist party was also know as the NAZI party!
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We already have welfare, lots of it...with socialism THEY get to choose who gets it! Would you like Alexandria Cortez deciding if you're worthy based on your social credit score?
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"Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and workers' self-management of the means of production[10] as well as the political theories and movements associated with them.[11] Social ownership can be public, collective or cooperative ownership, or to citizen ownership of equity.[12] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] where social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms." Wikipedia
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You do know anyone can go on Wikipedia and define anything to whatever they like right?
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In europe seems like the Muslims are doing ok, even the terrorists bragging about sucking up all that socialism while the deplorables are having their meager welfare lessened and getting the shit beat outta them in France if they don't want to participate in the socialism because they've seen the bad deal it is for their kind and would like to keep their jobs and not be taxed into poverty and welfare.
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Is it fair that I was dismissed from graduate theology school for opposing homosexuality and gay marriage in the church when I know full well that females in my class were put on full scholarship to go into ministry to promote homosexuality and gay marriage in the church?

Is that equality? Is that justice? Is that fair? Is that good socialist distribution of human resources in a progressive socialist society where government accreditation agencies promote social opportunists and ideological prostitutes to be the thought and career police?

Is that the game you want? Is that the "fair" society you want?

If so, consider me your mortal foe.
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