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Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?

 
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We are a Republic

Where the many, the few and even the one have a voice.

Nationalism does not need to be socialist
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You have explained it most succinctly.
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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
I am not saying Socialism is a good idea. I think it’s a horrible idea because not everyone carries the same values and not everyone will pull their own weight. Cause in point being the white man makes ahit and pays taxes for most of the world that diss are to lazy to take care of themselves. That is why Socialism will not work but also why Nationalism/Heritage would work. BecUse people tend to care and take care of like minded individuals. At the moment though most do not have the option to help the ones we want. Instead it is wasted on the lazy uneducated ingnorant and illegals that don’t belong here.
 Quoting: NFGWolf


That's cute. You live in a delusional world. National socialism gives the state all power over your commerce and standard of living. National socialism is statist capitalism with the most tyrannical elite right at the top.

You need to get out of whatever hippy commune you're in right now.
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OP, you really haven't defined national socialism correctly. National socialism places the betterment of the nation before the betterment of the individual. This is a very dangerous position and inherently problematic. In practice, it always leads to tyranny. Tyranny is its natural conclusion.


I think you are being disingenuous with your description.
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I just posted in a thread like this am I dreaming?
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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
OP, you really haven't defined national socialism correctly. National socialism places the betterment of the nation before the betterment of the individual. This is a very dangerous position and inherently problematic. In practice, it always leads to tyranny. Tyranny is its natural conclusion.


I think you are being disingenuous with your description.
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


No, not just "before", the individual flat doesn't exist in national socialism. The state is God. Hegelianism is national socialism.

National socialism will always end up looking like Nazism, because it is Nazism.

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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
What you are trying to call national socialism is “ethnocentrism”

We already have too much damn socialism as it is

Welfare, healthcare snap and affirmative action.

There is a lot more socialism on the way if trump doesn’t get re elected.

I have no problem with nationalism, ethnocentrism or populism.

But you are nuts to like any form of socialism.

The government is always the enemy.
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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
We are a Republic

Where the many, the few and even the one have a voice.

Nationalism does not need to be socialist
 Quoting: Manosteel


You have explained it most succinctly.
This thread can now expire.
All has been said that needs be said.
 Quoting: I Find It Odd....


Thanks for bumping my thread even though it’s pinned
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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
OP, you really haven't defined national socialism correctly. National socialism places the betterment of the nation before the betterment of the individual. This is a very dangerous position and inherently problematic. In practice, it always leads to tyranny. Tyranny is its natural conclusion.


I think you are being disingenuous with your description.
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


No, not just "before", the individual flat doesn't exist in national socialism. The state is God. Hegelianism is national socialism.

National socialism will always end up looking like Nazism, because it is Nazism.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos




I would agree with this.
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Is the idea of National Socialism really a bad thing..
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Shut up stupid
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You only talked about race not,socialism,wtf?!
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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
I am not saying Socialism is a good idea.

That is why Socialism will not work but also why Nationalism/Heritage would work.
 Quoting: NFGWolf


That's what you should have posted from the beginning.

However, you're not alone in at least unconsciously having huggy-nicey feelings about anything and anyone that smacks of liberalism/progressivism/socialism.

Thinking left-leaning biases make a person somehow more kind and caring than others - and therefore more likely to create and nurture a wonderful society - is the biggest mistake out there.

That's why most cities and countries that are mean, chaotic, ruthless, corrupt and miserable are just about always of the political left, not political right.

Too many people foolishly think just the opposite is true or will rationalize away the idiotic liberalism when confronted with hard reality.



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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
Since you don't seem to know if having socialism is a bad thing or not, you need to go live in North Korea for one full year. After the full year is up come back and report to us your findings. Oh that is if you are still alive.
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National Socialism is Nazism....

National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism.

So not only is it controlling, it is BIG Government on steroids and has many elements of Fascism...

Who, in their right mind, wants Government controlling all the utilities and setting prices for commodities. It's insane. It is far better to let the free markets decide price...

It is questionable whether a Government should impose regulations, on companies, and break up monopolies. The key is the PEOPLE. If they want to buy a product, they will, otherwise they will boycott and send a company into ruin...
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Jeffersonian Republicanism: a government by the people, for the people.

National Socialism: a people by the government, for the government.
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Socialism/Communism = Satanism
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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
I am a Trump supporter and I do not want socialism. The idea of it though can be different things and if a majority of the population aggreed and pulled their own then it would work. That is not the case though and I also agree that our government is to big and I am one that also hopes all the people laid off from the shutdown get let go.

That is a while different subject though and would require a whole revamp of the system that was let go. The system would have to be restructured because the systems are there for a reason. They are just over-powered and over staffed. The people fired would need to reapply for these new positions in the revamp operations. The rest of them well fuck them go find another job some place else. Because when the wall goes up and the way Corporates pay their employees changes. There is going to be a lot of good paying jobs to be had. Ones also that are not on the tax payers dollars!
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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
I understand in the argument and understand that yes we are a Republic. So my use of my definition of National Socialism is a little different and my thinking of it is more along the lines of the Republic. So sorry on the confusion.

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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
I understand in the argument and understand that yes we are a Republic!
 Quoting: NFGWolf


Do you know why America had a war of independence and broke away from Britain. It is the same concept. The USA does not want a Dictatorial National Socialist form of Government. If people want this, they should move to Europe, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, or China...

If people try to impose a National Socialistic Agenda on the USA Republic, there will be a Civil War...

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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
Yes, because itll be the same situation as it is now. Half the population dont want to work and feel as though they are entitled to be supported by the other half.

Same thing with guns. The democrats think that they should be the only ones with guns.

The democrats are a bunch of low iq children that think that their opinions matter more than everyone else’s because theyre right and everyone else is wrong
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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
What makes it Tyranny?
 Quoting: NFGWolf


When the mob rules through a dictatorial gov

When 51% can tell 49% to get fucked
 Quoting: Manosteel


The tyranny of democracy?
 Quoting: mon KeyHanger


What makes it Tyranny?
 Quoting: NFGWolf


When the mob rules through a dictatorial gov

When 51% can tell 49% to get fucked
 Quoting: Manosteel


The tyranny of democracy?
 Quoting: mon KeyHanger


There will be no democracy that is just it. When the few make the choices for the many that is tyranny. I dont want some libtard stranger making choices for me without choices you have no choice. Would you want that?
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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
National socialism will always end up looking like Nazism, because it is Nazism.
 Quoting: Pneumati tou Stomatos


In general, it's giving power to people who have about as much logic, common sense, rationality and integrity - and compassion - as a 15-year-old dope-smoking, shoplifting, late-for-work/unemployed, impregnating-aborting drop-out.

The epitome of Nazism, Adolph Hitler, by the way, was a homosexual, Islam-respecting, animal-rights-loving, vegan-favoring, artist-painting-liking, Socialist-tolerant person.

He pinged a lot of traits associated with a garden-variety liberal/leftist.


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Re: Is the idea or want of National Socialism really a bad thing?
OP, seems you are confusing "community" with Socialism.

In socialism, the means of production are held by and controlled by the state. Of course, right now, we have the giant corporations that are all controlled by the Banksters, who also control the Deep State.

National Socialism worked under Hitler because the German people were intelligent, industrious, and essentially all the same race. It would not work anywhere else.

When the State controls the means of production, they eventually control what you eat, where you live, and what you are paid.

Better to be hungry and free with the right of self-preservation than to be a weaponless serf under the oligarchy of the Banksters.

Destruction of White Race, of family, and of Christianity is their goal---and they are well on the way to succeeding.
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I understand in the argument and understand that yes we are a Republic!
 Quoting: NFGWolf


I like your dreamworld, OP. It's a nice place to walk around in.

But that isn't the way this world is.

Marx' Das Kapital looks great on paper, except it completely cuts out the human equation in its economics. There is real, tanglible evil in this world. And to give a government all power over your commerce, distribution, and property is to sell out the only leverage a people have against pure, despotic tyranny.

Jeffersonian republicanism requires 100% personal responsibility to pursue life, liberty, and happiness. It's not a guarantee, it's a chance.

And if a people no longer believes in personal responsibility, then it no longer believes in liberty, because that's what liberty is.

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Btw

Even Lenin said all forms of socialism are stepping stones to communism
 Quoting: Manosteel


only if actively building communist society.
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Btw

Even Lenin said all forms of socialism are stepping stones to communism
 Quoting: Manosteel


only if actively building communist society.
 Quoting: litv


communism is a dream, utopia.
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National Socialism is Nazism....

National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism.

So not only is it controlling, it is BIG Government on steroids and has many elements of Fascism...

Who, in their right mind, wants Government controlling all the utilities and setting prices for commodities. It's insane. It is far better to let the free markets decide price...

It is questionable whether a Government should impose regulations, on companies, and break up monopolies. The key is the PEOPLE. If they want to buy a product, they will, otherwise they will boycott and send a company into ruin...
 Quoting: DuckNCover


Very well put.applause2

And for Op, please check what your posting, Arkansas has a bad enough reputation for grammar and spelling.

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Is the idea of National Socialism really a bad thing.
 Quoting: NFGWolf


For some it is, and for others it's not. Depends on where you want to apply it. Nazi Germany believed National Socialism to be the natural support structure for a single race society. Israel shares that belief for their own country. Not only has Israel declared themselves to be a Jewish state, they also provide government benefits and other laws that support Jews only, and an immigration system that allows only Jews to become citizens of Israel.

But for a multicultural state like the US, National Socialism is impossible if you look at it from the same point of view as Nazi Germany and Israel. There simply is no one race or culture that would allow National Socialism to succeed.
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In the case of Central and Eastern Europe, the empire was simply too expensive to maintain, and a kind of political decision was made—Moscow had to let those countries go.

So in America It Would Be State After State As Being Too Expensive To Maintain...
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An EXAMPLE

American Dream: You work to build a small business that you own. Depending on Tax Bracket...

In highest tax rate you keep 62% of Net Earnings.

In National Socialism - Highest tax rate is 70% to 99% depending on earnings. So you only keep between 30-1% of what YOUR Business Earned!

The American Dream would be dead. The point of America is that anyone can OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS>

The Government is in the job of TAKING MONEY and Putting people out of business!

IN the end only a small number of government approved business own everything and gov. workers or politicians CONTROL EVERYTHING!

You think things are corrupt now.. with more government control comes even more coruption
Think About It.





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