HUGE QUESTION: Why did shooter shoot guard through the door 6 minutes BEFORE he began shooting? | |
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PACNWGUY-01
(OP) User ID: 72084552 United States 10/10/2017 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the million dollar question. The answer? He didn’t. Someone else did. Stephen Paddock was dead before the shooting even started. Quoting: StormeyGoddess It's looking more and more like that. Now the next door neighbor is reporting multiple gunmen. There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33762546 United States 10/10/2017 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Investigators are now saying the shooter shot the security guard through the door 6 minutes before he began shooting. Why in he hell would he do that? He had monitors in the hall and saw the guard and then fired 200 rounds through the door at the guard. Why not wait until he was gone? Why did he wait another 6 minutes to begin his slaughter? Why did he leave the wounded guard outside his room? He could see that he was wounded with his monitors. Why didn't anyone else on the floor report 200 rounds being fired 30 feet away from their rooms. They are aren't soundproof. Earlier the guy below him reported loud music coming from above. Loud music is loud but 200 rounds isn't? Quoting: PACNWGUY-01 See link below from NY times. [link to www.latimes.com] The victims list.......... it was a “hit”! Cleaning up a Hary Reed Rat Line! |
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(OP) User ID: 72084552 United States 10/10/2017 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Leaks will begin soon. Stay tuned. There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
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User ID: 7276923 United States 10/10/2017 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to heavy.com] This is the only pic I can find of the guard Sittin' on top of the World with my legs hanging free...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69591701 United States 10/10/2017 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So many questions, yet all we get is fucky fucky answers that defy logic. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69591701 United States 10/10/2017 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 200 shots through the door from the inside of the room? Is there not a door directly across the hallway from said shot door? Was that room occupied? Think about this. 200 rounds supposedly went through the shooter's door but magically caused no damage to the wall or opposing door mere feet away? Would there not realistically be bullets through the opposing door and potentially hitting the room windows in that room? And yet they don't break? Was anyone staying in that room? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69591701 So many questions, yet all we get is fucky fucky answers that defy logic. Forgot to add...how the hell did they arrive at a round figure of 200 rounds? The standard AR mags are 20, 30, and 40 round mags. A 50 rounder would be a drum magazines, and those are finicky on that platform. The numbers given sound like someone pulled that outta their ass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69591701 United States 10/10/2017 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 200 shots through the door from the inside of the room? Is there not a door directly across the hallway from said shot door? Was that room occupied? Think about this. 200 rounds supposedly went through the shooter's door but magically caused no damage to the wall or opposing door mere feet away? Would there not realistically be bullets through the opposing door and potentially hitting the room windows in that room? And yet they don't break? Was anyone staying in that room? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69591701 So many questions, yet all we get is fucky fucky answers that defy logic. Forgot to add...how the hell did they arrive at a round figure of 200 rounds? The standard AR mags are 20, 30, and 40 round mags. A 50 rounder would be a drum magazines, and those are finicky on that platform. The numbers given sound like someone pulled that outta their ass. So 200 shots through the door from the inside of the room? Is there not a door directly across the hallway from said shot door? Was that room occupied? Think about this. 200 rounds supposedly went through the shooter's door but magically caused no damage to the wall or opposing door mere feet away? Would there not realistically be bullets through the opposing door and potentially hitting the room windows in that room? And yet they don't break? Was anyone staying in that room? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69591701 So many questions, yet all we get is fucky fucky answers that defy logic. Forgot to add...how the hell did they arrive at a round figure of 200 rounds? The standard AR mags are 20, 30, and 40 round mags. A 50 rounder would be a drum magazines, and those are finicky on that platform. The numbers given sound like someone pulled that outta their ass. Ok, thought that one through some more. Potentially two 100 round Surefire mags? Just thinking out loud. Feel free to add! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69766872 United States 10/10/2017 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Investigators are now saying the shooter shot the security guard through the door 6 minutes before he began shooting. Why in he hell would he do that? He had monitors in the hall and saw the guard and then fired 200 rounds through the door at the guard. Why not wait until he was gone? Why did he wait another 6 minutes to begin his slaughter? Why did he leave the wounded guard outside his room? He could see that he was wounded with his monitors. Why didn't anyone else on the floor report 200 rounds being fired 30 feet away from their rooms. They are aren't soundproof. Earlier the guy below him reported loud music coming from above. Loud music is loud but 200 rounds isn't? See link below from NY times. [link to www.latimes.com] [/quo I'm starting to think maybe this guy wasn't rational. |
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(OP) User ID: 72084552 United States 10/10/2017 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Police would never wait an hour before breaching the door just because shooting stopped. He could have started up and killed more people at any time. Unless they already knew he was dead. There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73583887 United States 10/10/2017 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guard in no hero. I really feel for all the victims, under these horrible circumstances, there must not be a lot of confidence with all the changes in the timeline. The guard had access to any room to call for help, even if only more guards showed up, he would have seen the response and possibly not had the 11 minutes of hell he brought upon those crowds. His attention would have been diverted to all the action in the hall. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75577103 United States 10/10/2017 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Las Vegas a massive hoax proven by impossible numeorolgy: For example: 527 injured 58 'killed' 47 guns 32 floors 2 windows 527 + 58 + 47 + 32 + 2 = 666 ------------------------------------- These are the numbers that were displayed for many days after-the-fact. The # of the 'injured' has since been changed/lowered, and the 'dead' was changed to 59 by adding the alleged shooter to total. Makes no difference - these original numbers already told the whole story... i.e. Las Vegas was/is a massive hoax plain and simple And this: Nevada governor Brian Sandoval birthday Aug. 5 ( [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Aug 5 = 8/5 or '58' Days between August 5 and October 1? Answer '58' (see 'time and date') How many allegedly 'killed' by alleged shooter? 58 58 58 58 - trifecta on the '58' numeorolgy does not happen by itself Las Vegas a massive hoax plain and simple |
PACNWGUY-01
(OP) User ID: 72084552 United States 10/10/2017 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's being reported (Laura Lerner) now that the security guard has only worked there for a few minutes months and the hotel has removed him from their employee data base. There will be a time in the not so distant future when they will hunt Liberals with DOGS. Democrats vote for what benefits them while Republicans vote for what benefits the country. |
Steve User ID: 72981008 United States 10/10/2017 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Logically speaking, the six minute difference from the time the security guard was shot were likely used by the multiple shooters to reposition down the stairs and back across the building back behind Mandalay towards the Delano. Can see the flashbangs from there in the dark to right of Mandalay throughout the main video. The attackers did not shoot from that room after having to shoot the guard , because they knew they would have been sitting ducks. At that point Paddock either martyred himself barricading himself in the room to take LE focus so his accomplices could escape and shoot the crowd up. OR Paddock was framed as patsy but still was involved with the shooters through organized crime. |
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User ID: 75260224 United States 10/11/2017 12:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm beginning to wonder if Paddock was staging the room for someone else (a bunch of someone else's) to do a dastardly deed. Maybe a pre-staging area for a terrorist cell to arm up from and run through the streets of LV, or a 3 letter agency operation command post. That might explain all of the weapons. Then when he got caught by Campos he shot up the concert to keep eyes off of whoever he was setting up for. Maybe that's why we haven't seen even one security camera footage....not even from an adjacent business....because the feds are right now chasing down an actual cell (or chasing themselves or the CIA). "Ever since I woke up this morning, I wanted to be a pirate" Si Robertson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States 10/11/2017 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm beginning to wonder if Paddock was staging the room for someone else (a bunch of someone else's) to do a dastardly deed. Maybe a pre-staging area for a terrorist cell to arm up from and run through the streets of LV, or a 3 letter agency operation command post. That might explain all of the weapons. Then when he got caught by Campos he shot up the concert to keep eyes off of whoever he was setting up for. Maybe that's why we haven't seen even one security camera footage....not even from an adjacent business....because the feds are right now chasing down an actual cell (or chasing themselves or the CIA). Quoting: shiftysailorgirl the exact opposite of The Deep State CIA Watergate Guards, who didn't shoot the Guard, and didn't kill themselves. . |
dmhennen
User ID: 56437781 United States 10/11/2017 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Logically speaking, the six minute difference from the time the security guard was shot were likely used by the multiple shooters to reposition down the stairs and back across the building back behind Mandalay towards the Delano. Can see the flashbangs from there in the dark to right of Mandalay throughout the main video. Quoting: Steve 72981008 The attackers did not shoot from that room after having to shoot the guard , because they knew they would have been sitting ducks. At that point Paddock either martyred himself barricading himself in the room to take LE focus so his accomplices could escape and shoot the crowd up. OR Paddock was framed as patsy but still was involved with the shooters through organized crime. I also agree with the theory that the shootings took place from the roof of the Delano hotel, but gunfire "appeared" to be coming from Mandalay Bay. No shots were fired from the 32nd floor except those down the hall, or through the door, etc. Windows on the 32nd floor were "broken out" during the gunfire as witnessed in the "bus stop video". |
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Redcat User ID: 75662347 United States 10/11/2017 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 200 shots through the door from the inside of the room? Is there not a door directly across the hallway from said shot door? Was that room occupied? Think about this. 200 rounds supposedly went through the shooter's door but magically caused no damage to the wall or opposing door mere feet away? Would there not realistically be bullets through the opposing door and potentially hitting the room windows in that room? And yet they don't break? Was anyone staying in that room? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69591701 So many questions, yet all we get is fucky fucky answers that defy logic. Forgot to add...how the hell did they arrive at a round figure of 200 rounds? The standard AR mags are 20, 30, and 40 round mags. A 50 rounder would be a drum magazines, and those are finicky on that platform. The numbers given sound like someone pulled that outta their ass. So 200 shots through the door from the inside of the room? Is there not a door directly across the hallway from said shot door? Was that room occupied? Think about this. 200 rounds supposedly went through the shooter's door but magically caused no damage to the wall or opposing door mere feet away? Would there not realistically be bullets through the opposing door and potentially hitting the room windows in that room? And yet they don't break? Was anyone staying in that room? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69591701 So many questions, yet all we get is fucky fucky answers that defy logic. Forgot to add...how the hell did they arrive at a round figure of 200 rounds? The standard AR mags are 20, 30, and 40 round mags. A 50 rounder would be a drum magazines, and those are finicky on that platform. The numbers given sound like someone pulled that outta their ass. Ok, thought that one through some more. Potentially two 100 round Surefire mags? Just thinking out loud. Feel free to add! There are at least 8 sequences of continuous, non-stop automatic fire that last 10 seconds. At at least 10 rounds per second those sequences would require 100+ round magazines, drums, belts, etc. Any found in the room? P.S. were did over 1,000 rounds of brass go? P.S.S One of the officers said you could smell gunpower in the room when they went in. Really? After 1000+ rounds - and 200 in the hallway there should be gunpowder smell all over - in the hallway, in the room (especially). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38798625 Canada 10/11/2017 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uhhhmmmmmm. Just spitballing here.. Quoting: Gelatinous Mass Perhaps the security guard saw the cameras and knocked on the door to inquire. Perhaps another guest called security after seeing the strange cameras on the room service cart. Perhaps the security guard was a Man in Black trying to prevent the TRUTH about the DOME from being revealed. Perhaps the security guard wanted to look for Nibiru through the shooters spotting scope. Perhaps the security guard had to take a dump and could not hold it. Shall I go on? Maybe we can get the info FROM the security guard. Seems the FBI and LVPD have not even questioned the guy, or they would know days after the event that the gunshots to the concert only stated minutes AFTER the guard was shot, and not BEFORE, as the earlier narrative claimed. Like WTF? Someone is obviously lying, or is so incompetent that their new job will be a doorstop in Harvey Weinstein's shower door. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74651063 United States 10/11/2017 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Logically speaking, the six minute difference from the time the security guard was shot were likely used by the multiple shooters to reposition down the stairs and back across the building back behind Mandalay towards the Delano. Can see the flashbangs from there in the dark to right of Mandalay throughout the main video. Quoting: Steve 72981008 The attackers did not shoot from that room after having to shoot the guard , because they knew they would have been sitting ducks. At that point Paddock either martyred himself barricading himself in the room to take LE focus so his accomplices could escape and shoot the crowd up. OR Paddock was framed as patsy but still was involved with the shooters through organized crime. I also agree with the theory that the shootings took place from the roof of the Delano hotel, but gunfire "appeared" to be coming from Mandalay Bay. No shots were fired from the 32nd floor except those down the hall, or through the door, etc. Windows on the 32nd floor were "broken out" during the gunfire as witnessed in the "bus stop video". There is a rooftop bar on the Delano and nobody reported or recorded any shooter from the delano hotel |
dmhennen
User ID: 56437781 United States 10/11/2017 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Logically speaking, the six minute difference from the time the security guard was shot were likely used by the multiple shooters to reposition down the stairs and back across the building back behind Mandalay towards the Delano. Can see the flashbangs from there in the dark to right of Mandalay throughout the main video. Quoting: Steve 72981008 The attackers did not shoot from that room after having to shoot the guard , because they knew they would have been sitting ducks. At that point Paddock either martyred himself barricading himself in the room to take LE focus so his accomplices could escape and shoot the crowd up. OR Paddock was framed as patsy but still was involved with the shooters through organized crime. I also agree with the theory that the shootings took place from the roof of the Delano hotel, but gunfire "appeared" to be coming from Mandalay Bay. No shots were fired from the 32nd floor except those down the hall, or through the door, etc. Windows on the 32nd floor were "broken out" during the gunfire as witnessed in the "bus stop video". There is a rooftop bar on the Delano and nobody reported or recorded any shooter from the delano hotel good info, thanks. |