Sex BEFORE a first date is normal now

Who do you think responds to strangers taking a survey about their sexual habits, those that are more reserved or those that are more liberal?

These types of surveys are so biased, and ultimately pointless as sources of actual info. My guess is the purpose of these is to offer advertisers an opportunity, and further the narrative that people should be having more sex, with more people, and not worrying about it.

I think it's great! I wouldn't dream of a secon date unless I got to fuck her on the first. The girl I loved the most in my life actually seduced me, and that changed everything.

No sex, no caring. Simple as that. Getting the sexual angst out of the way up front means you can actually be honest with each other. Before that, I'd actually have to see a hooker before the date so I'd not be desperate.

The problem is that children need fathers. And if the man doesn't know if the child is his or not, the situation is untenable.

That is so fucking depressing.

Everyone does NOT have Herpes. I don't. I made it to my 30's without one STD and damn proud of that.

I hate the fact that so many think it's "normal" to have a DISEASE these days. A freaking body parasite that is preventable if you WAIT for the right person.

My god.



True.

In the 1860s there were so many brothels - they were sex clubs with sex parties - they were in cities like London and New York - it was the height of lavish houses of prostitution. And it wasn't just men having all that sex, and all of the women were not there by force, although I'm sure many were. Many women made their fortunes and got out.

And it's not fundamentally different than today, just because it was in houses and money exchanged hands.

On the American frontier, anyplace where there was economic activity and not just in gold rush towns, there were houses where men and women had sex. And you cannot say it was all rape and slavery. Some was, a lot maybe, but it wasn't all.

Sex before the first date makes good sense when you really think about it.

In most cases what draws two people together is purely physical.

Why not get all that out of the way first! Then start the process of getting to know each other instead of going through a long drawn out process of seeing if it'll get to the point where you get down each others pants?

What if it takes a few dates and some time to finally get to that point where you sleep together and the sex sucks?

Even if this story isnt 100% accurate, its pretty obvious just how low the society has sunk

Look at this site and youll see many posts that pertain to sick and immoral actions.

Just see how people type and think and even if they arent going out having sex with strangers, they sure are thinking about it and looking at porn, and talking like they would be, here online.

Its pretty apparent also that most kids have no real father as he is either left the kid or in jail or spends very little time with the child and just chooses to give him materials to shit him up.

When you live in a society where men in their 50s and 60s have failed, chances are even greater that the men younger than them are even worse off, and the kids from these men are even worse.

I get where the OP is going.

It's very weird dating now. Most but not all man expect sex even if you don't know them.

Seems sex is no longer between people that have feelings for each other, and after you have even dated a while instead now it's expected right away.

Kind of like it has no value to it for some people.

And for those of us that consider it special between two people that know each other, those people are less and less.

Dr. E. Michael J#nes on Sexual Liberty as a Psy-Op and Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing

Good video

Whats happened is the internet has made immoral and sick acts more common place and more open.

Where as youve always had prostitutes (Oldest profession to some people) it was always just that place at the far side of the city that no one talked a bout.

Now days the internet has SOOOO MANY dating sites, some blatantly sexual in nature others just basic sites to meet people. The fact remains that people spend most of their social encounters with people FIRST on the internet. whether on facebook,text, or a dating site, or etc.

People are meeting less and less people face to face now for the first time aside from work places.

When a 14 year old kid is given a computer with internet and mommy isnt home sooner or later the kid is going to come accross some shit he probably shouldnt be looking at.

And the fact its SOOO EASY to access immoral things just makes this story ever more TRUE.

You can hide behind your own personal trauma but the facts remain that as a Human you have a choice to go down a sick path or to seek the Good.

sounds like the 60s again, without the moral judgement attached or segregating "marriage material" from a romp.

Its horrible but it's more honest. It also doesn't have to mean full blown all the way. That is never going to happen in my case anyway, morality doesn't keep me from fucking like, HERPES does; I don't have it and wont!!!

That's how I felt almost 40 years ago.

It wasn't the question of sex before the first date, but sex way too soon.

The only girls who liked me were the fast bad girls.

I wanted True Love, but every tome I spoke of it I was mocked by men, and hated by women.

I was a poor outcast so women thought about me as the stable hand they could screw for a fling, or the pool boy, or the cowboy, etc.

No serious woman, yearning for marriage and family, would even speak to me, and I didn't want flings.

Get used to it OP.

Once you've become disgusted with the dating scene, you will find it never gets any better.

At least I can tell you this much: it can get continually worse for 40 years and by then you'll be too old to care.

I hope that gives you a little more encouragement..

I was an adult I had my own home my own car I worked two jobs to provide for myself.

Yes I met a lot of nice guys went on some awesome dates was treated with dignity and respect.

Expectations from men in my age group were pretty transparent. I wasn't looking for a room mate or someone to take care of.

When a man came on to strong they had their own agenda. And most often they had the same story.. low paying job.. living with family.. and had never achieved a long term goal.

I'm not a matriarch type woman. Just no fool. I didn't need a dependent.. especially one who thought they could show me their golden lingam and I would awaken to realizing my life's purpose. That didn't mean I wasn't human.

I was told very often I was.. "masculine". As a rebuttal to my unwillingness to be submissive.. From my perspective it simply meant they felt submission was lowering my head to the ground and putting my ass in the air.. From my perspective it felt they only wanted to "claim" what I had already done for my own future to have a place to crash and getting laid was bonus.

I didn't have children. I was a college educated woman.. I didn't "need" a man. I hungered for one.

We have become a society of scavengers.. theives.. Cons... Sex isn't About intimacy anymore it's about manipulation.. its become a tool to rape another persons life. There is no honor left in our selves if we don't even know how to blush anymore.

don't ever let someone else decide what is normal and what aint!

Add 1 part Vibrators, abortion on demand and birth control 1 part Social Norms Abandonment, 1 part sex driven media 1 part Drugs and Marajuana, and 1 part Toxoplasma Gondi and BOOM! A volitile, horny as fuck rapacious amazon woman creature.

These days girls have gotten sluttier but so have men, men are fucking disgusting these days.

I still know how to blush, even though I've spent 50 years trying to suppress it. I want sex every day twice a day and don't mind paying for it and it's still really hard to find and hard to get. It sucks not to be 18 today when sex is expected before a date. I had to get married twice for sex and found each time that it stopped. No point in another marriage. The only purpose of marriage was to guarantee sex, and that was a fraud.

I was reading about a European country - I think the Netherlands(?) where this is very common. It blew my mind. I guess they are much more open sexually and they hook up for a while before moving into relationships and then only if there is compatibility.

Its not for me - and personally I've come to view that we are too lose about things today - I wouldn't even know how to navigate out there in todays world.

This is bad, see this.

Thread: Women absorb and carry living DNA and cells from every male they have sexual intercouse with

this dosen't surprise me although it does dismay me.

from my dealings with the younger generation what i've found is that

dating is dead.

very sad, because dating was an OK practice. i mean, not perfect, but...

the reasons dating doesn't exist anymore?

groups of kids hang out together instead. guys just don't see a girl and think "i'll ask her out". perhaps this is due to 1. low self esteem 2. low cash 3. group think

so, instead, large groups get together and this couple or that will "hook up". after a few hook ups, they realize hey, they like each other.

voila, they might even go to 5 Guys together WITHOUT the crowd. (first real date) (they have quite possibly already shared bodily fluids)

the way this works, girls unwilling to hook up might never get to the date level. ? maybe?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't fucking someone considered a first date?

I read this yesterday. I could not believe sex was the 'interview' for a date.
This is so messed up.
And we wonder why they're crazy. Tgey do everything bassackwards.

Yes but women in general have been turned into Jeezebels and backed stabbed men. While more men have seen past the lies. Hence the war on white men. I coined it the Eve effect (women's gullibility in accepting cultural marxism), but generally I agree with your statement. Both genders have been under constant attack by the evil corporatist fascists.

Um. You must be a guy

Because sex is a lot more than "doing it."

Sexual attraction, depth and enjoyment increases when you're with a person you love and respect

But the fact that I have to explain that to you ...you'll never get it

I'm just wasting my time

Run along and go send your dickpix.

It's because people are viewed by some as objects rather than human by some in this internet era. It's not a good sign and really not sustainable as a functional society.

No, it's perfectly logical. A date can't be enjoyed unless the sexual stress/tension is relieved up front. If the guy doesn't want the girl after sex, then she's learned something without having to waste weeks trying to tease it out. If she won't do him, he's learned that she's not worth the effort. If they like each other after sex, they can enjoy a date, a sleepover, and more sex if that's what they want. If they like each other enough, they can go monogamous from that point forward. It's the right thing to do. Now I need to find a girl to fuck.

an old phone? like a pulse dial?

because sex DOES NOT keep a relationship going

real love does

you have been brainwashed if you think sex is enough to make it through a cancer scare or the death of a child

you will get a rude awakening if you think sex can get you through the downs in life.....no. you need someone who actually cares about you and wants the best, not just to have an orgasm with you

big difference

The relationship will likely fail if that is your strategy. This is like in the current black culture, you end up having kids with no fathers present.. the children grow up neglected and surrounded by trauma. They end up in gangs and/or prison. If this were adopted in the entire culture, society collapses and a new one begins that is based on a sustainable human based foundation... sort of like what we inherited from our ancestors.