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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64464629 United States 01/04/2017 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you got paid in BTC, should you report it to the IRS? Can they tell it was paid to you if you plan on holding long term? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72857927 It's a commodity according to the CFTC. Therefore, you only report the capital gains when you sell. Of course, you could lose it all in a canoe accident, or electrical brownout... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72857927 United States 01/04/2017 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you got paid in BTC, should you report it to the IRS? Can they tell it was paid to you if you plan on holding long term? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72857927 It's a commodity according to the CFTC. Therefore, you only report the capital gains when you sell. Of course, you could lose it all in a canoe accident, or electrical brownout... That would apply if you bought it yourself. If you received it as income, wouldn't that need to be declared? Could that be tracked to the individual? |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 01/04/2017 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you got paid in BTC, should you report it to the IRS? Can they tell it was paid to you if you plan on holding long term? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72857927 It's a commodity according to the CFTC. Therefore, you only report the capital gains when you sell. Of course, you could lose it all in a chance accident, or electrical brownout... Accidental loss seems to be the main fear surrounding owning Bitcoin. If you have your wallet on your home computer and the house burns down or the computer gets stolen, your Bitcoins are gone. Solution; Spread your coins out, on public exchanges. Half a coin, here, half a coin there... use your exchanges like storage. Most exchanges have you verify your entries into their systems by contacting you through your email address before you can enter their site. Bleutrade does this, Coinbase too. And you still have easy access. There are bound to be better methods but this one is a quick fix. Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73533979 United States 01/04/2017 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you got paid in BTC, should you report it to the IRS? Can they tell it was paid to you if you plan on holding long term? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72857927 It's a commodity according to the CFTC. Therefore, you only report the capital gains when you sell. Of course, you could lose it all in a canoe accident, or electrical brownout... That would apply if you bought it yourself. If you received it as income, wouldn't that need to be declared? Could that be tracked to the individual? If you received it as income - the IRS would most likely want taxes based upon the fiat value of the coin at the time you received it and then again at the time you sell as either a gain (if BTC increases - or [good for you a loss] if BTC decreases). However there is no way to associate income of BTC to an individual until it is actually sold as fiat. I've had discussions with countless Accountants over the past 2 years. Most of them knew nothing about Bitcoin until I divulged. Every single one of them told me that it should only be reported as gain or loss like commodity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64464629 United States 01/04/2017 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you got paid in BTC, should you report it to the IRS? Can they tell it was paid to you if you plan on holding long term? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72857927 It's a commodity according to the CFTC. Therefore, you only report the capital gains when you sell. Of course, you could lose it all in a chance accident, or electrical brownout... Accidental loss seems to be the main fear surrounding owning Bitcoin. If you have your wallet on your home computer and the house burns down or the computer gets stolen, your Bitcoins are gone. Solution; Spread your coins out, on public exchanges. Half a coin, here, half a coin there... use your exchanges like storage. Most exchanges have you verify your entries into their systems by contacting you through your email address before you can enter their site. Bleutrade does this, Coinbase too. And you still have easy access. There are bound to be better methods but this one is a quick fix. No, no, no! You don't actually hold the bitcoins on YOUR computer. The bitcoins are held on the blockchain, and there are thousands of copies of the blockchain all over the world.. Your private key paired with your public key is how you prove ownership of bitcoin. Your house can burn down, someone can steal your bitcoin and you still can get them back as long as you know, or have recorded in a safe place, your private key. You can even put your private key in a special wallet that can rebuild itself from scratch using a 12 word seed key. All you people posting on here with your bad information are really pointing people in the wrong direction with Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Quit FUDding around. Don't trust what you read on these forums, do your own due diligence. Buy bitcoin and be happy in the future. You'll see. |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 01/04/2017 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you got paid in BTC, should you report it to the IRS? Can they tell it was paid to you if you plan on holding long term? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72857927 It's a commodity according to the CFTC. Therefore, you only report the capital gains when you sell. Of course, you could lose it all in a canoe accident, or electrical brownout... That would apply if you bought it yourself. If you received it as income, wouldn't that need to be declared? Could that be tracked to the individual? If you received it as income - the IRS would most likely want taxes based upon the fiat value of the coin at the time you received it and then again at the time you sell as either a gain (if BTC increases - or [good for you a loss] if BTC decreases). However there is no way to associate income of BTC to an individual until it is actually sold as fiat. I've had discussions with countless Accountants over the past 2 years. Most of them knew nothing about Bitcoin until I divulged. Every single one of them told me that it should only be reported as gain or loss like commodity. Pay the taxes on the income received, year by year! As in, how much income did you gain from Bitcoin in 2016? Answer, I received... in cash/financial gain, like a business investment. In 2016, that might not be much cash. The United States Government is broke and desperate. The Dollar COULD be devalued under Mr. Trump by 1/3 or 1/2! This is another reason that Bitcoin is HOT! Do not stand between this Government and the money that they think is due them. Do not become their enemy over a few Dollars! All they need is an excuse to ruin your life! Last Edited by ~ Prof. on 01/04/2017 10:12 PM Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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User ID: 72912013 United States 01/04/2017 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone tell me what the price of 1btc would be if all the US currency in circulation now was btc? Truth is never told, only realized The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Proverbs 9:10 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73190992 Canada 01/04/2017 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have friends that have Hundreds of thousands of dollars in BTC. It is incredibly difficult to sell. Tiny market, lots of scammers, banks cracking down on money laundering regulations. Do not buy because you think it will raise in value and you can sell it all off to be rich. Really only invest in it as a back up. |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 01/04/2017 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have friends that have Hundreds of thousands of dollars in BTC. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73190992 It is incredibly difficult to sell. Tiny market, lots of scammers, banks cracking down on money laundering regulations. Do not buy because you think it will raise in value and you can sell it all off to be rich. Really only invest in it as a back up. Would you please drop me a few names and email address so that I might petition your friends to share their wealth?! Thank you! Also, tell your friends to check out the website; bitpremier.com Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 01/04/2017 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you got paid in BTC, should you report it to the IRS? Can they tell it was paid to you if you plan on holding long term? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72857927 It's a commodity according to the CFTC. Therefore, you only report the capital gains when you sell. Of course, you could lose it all in a chance accident, or electrical brownout... Accidental loss seems to be the main fear surrounding owning Bitcoin. If you have your wallet on your home computer and the house burns down or the computer gets stolen, your Bitcoins are gone. Solution; Spread your coins out, on public exchanges. Half a coin, here, half a coin there... use your exchanges like storage. Most exchanges have you verify your entries into their systems by contacting you through your email address before you can enter their site. Bleutrade does this, Coinbase too. And you still have easy access. There are bound to be better methods but this one is a quick fix. No, no, no! You don't actually hold the bitcoins on YOUR computer. The bitcoins are held on the blockchain, and there are thousands of copies of the blockchain all over the world.. Your private key paired with your public key is how you prove ownership of bitcoin. Your house can burn down, someone can steal your bitcoin and you still can get them back as long as you know, or have recorded in a safe place, your private key. You can even put your private key in a special wallet that can rebuild itself from scratch using a 12 word seed key. All you people posting on here with your bad information are really pointing people in the wrong direction with Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Quit FUDding around. Don't trust what you read on these forums, do your own due diligence. Buy bitcoin and be happy in the future. You'll see. Once, I "misplaced" my Blockchain wallet data. I found it, but in the meantime I was very upset. Since then, I used the method above, to protect myself, from myself. I know were those coins are. And if something happened to me, even my family could eventually figure it out. I am using the logic of; Not placing all of my eggs in the same basket. Thank you for your input. Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73727993 United States 01/04/2017 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone tell me what the price of 1btc would be if all the US currency in circulation now was btc? Quoting: Lostbutfound According to the Federal Reserve ( [link to fred.stlouisfed.org (secure)] the current M1 Money Supply is approximately $3.3 trillion. This includes cash and checking accounts. The hard limit on the number of Bitcoin that can exist is 21 million (you can still have like 0.03 BTC if you want, there's almost no limit to how small you can subdivide it). So, if the total value of all Bitcoin were $3.3 trillion, and we divided that by the 21 million BTC, that would give us: 3,300,000,000,000 / 21,000,000 = $157,142.85 So there's your answer! If BTC magically replaced the US dollar, then it's value would be at least $150,000. In fact, it would be more because I didn't include the M2 or M3 money supply (which count things like money market accounts and treasury bonds). |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 01/05/2017 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone tell me what the price of 1btc would be if all the US currency in circulation now was btc? Quoting: Lostbutfound According to the Federal Reserve ( [link to fred.stlouisfed.org (secure)] the current M1 Money Supply is approximately $3.3 trillion. This includes cash and checking accounts. The hard limit on the number of Bitcoin that can exist is 21 million (you can still have like 0.03 BTC if you want, there's almost no limit to how small you can subdivide it). So, if the total value of all Bitcoin were $3.3 trillion, and we divided that by the 21 million BTC, that would give us: 3,300,000,000,000 / 21,000,000 = $157,142.85 So there's your answer! If BTC magically replaced the US dollar, then it's value would be at least $150,000. In fact, it would be more because I didn't include the M2 or M3 money supply (which count things like money market accounts and treasury bonds). Thank you!! Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71921589 United States 01/05/2017 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a Joe Schmoe blue collar man near his retirement talking Bitcoin and how it's protected his wealth-- he's survived a divorce and lots of greedy vultures. Learn from this guy, you don't survive to old age by being a dummy! An interview with Vention - [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Him talking about BTC - [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 73438110 United States 01/05/2017 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a Joe Schmoe blue collar man near his retirement talking Bitcoin and how it's protected his wealth-- he's survived a divorce and lots of greedy vultures. Learn from this guy, you don't survive to old age by being a dummy! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71921589 An interview with Vention - Him talking about BTC - |
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User ID: 1497845 United States 01/05/2017 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone tell me what the price of 1btc would be if all the US currency in circulation now was btc? Quoting: Lostbutfound According to the Federal Reserve ( [link to fred.stlouisfed.org (secure)] the current M1 Money Supply is approximately $3.3 trillion. This includes cash and checking accounts. The hard limit on the number of Bitcoin that can exist is 21 million (you can still have like 0.03 BTC if you want, there's almost no limit to how small you can subdivide it). So, if the total value of all Bitcoin were $3.3 trillion, and we divided that by the 21 million BTC, that would give us: 3,300,000,000,000 / 21,000,000 = $157,142.85 So there's your answer! If BTC magically replaced the US dollar, then it's value would be at least $150,000. In fact, it would be more because I didn't include the M2 or M3 money supply (which count things like money market accounts and treasury bonds). Thank you!! Thank you! 2% Of that is around $3000..... Truth is never told, only realized The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Proverbs 9:10 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73533979 United States 01/05/2017 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin gonna flop cause transaction take too much time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73696926 Transaction should be like 10s max. LOL, perhaps if you want to make it a currency as opposed to a value storage that it currently is. The first submission of transaction is near instantaneous however, it does take at least 1 block for network submission. The greater usage the longer it may take depending on the fee you submit for miner inclusion of your transaction. This is a current debate in the BTC arena. Increase block size to allow for more and faster transactions or leave as is with the fee structure to in essence create a bidding war to have a transaction included in a block. As the coin matures and reward for block finding decreases fees were designed to increase so that mining incentives would continue. |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 01/05/2017 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin gonna flop cause transaction take too much time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73696926 Transaction should be like 10s max. Bitcoin gonna flop cause transaction take too much time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73696926 Transaction should be like 10s max. Compared to what, a credit card with a 25% interest rate?! Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 01/05/2017 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see a Bitcoin price of $1183.32 on coinmarketcap.com. This means that Bitcoin has reached Gold Parity! January 5, 2017, the day the Financial System changed. The future is now! Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73533979 United States 01/05/2017 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see a Bitcoin price of $1183.32 on coinmarketcap.com. This means that Bitcoin has reached Gold Parity! January 5, 2017, the day the Financial System changed. The future is now! Quoting: EFFING DEPLORABLE! true dat. $1188 now, using the Chinese Exchanges USD value. US Exchanges still have yet to catch up - about $25 bucks behind.. Arbitrage opportunities. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58631375 Canada 01/05/2017 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You hand over your money and instead of getting anything tangible you get the most limited form of matter contained at the quantum level. The Chinese are milking everyone hard on this one. |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 01/05/2017 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't.. you either trade for goods or sell bitcoin to some other retard and keep the system afloat. You don't.. you either trade for goods or sell bitcoin to some other retard and keep the system afloat. I don't take photos of myself at the ATM, it looks suspicious! Go to bit pay.com to get the info that you have requested. Thank you. Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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(OP) User ID: 30358350 United States 01/05/2017 02:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bitcoin is ingenious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58631375 You hand over your money and instead of getting anything tangible you get the most limited form of matter contained at the quantum level. The Chinese are milking everyone hard on this one. An intangible that can be transferred world wide in an instant! If the Chinese invented it, their citizens would not be able to transfer funds out of China. Every day, and in every way, the shit keeps getting deeper and deeper! |
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