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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35612210 United States 02/03/2016 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no idea what candidate (if any) Paul's people will rally around. I guess he felt like he better keep his voice in the Senate but I think he quit way too soon. Quoting: snark LP Gov. Gary Johnson Wasted vote. If you purists continue to siphon off Republican votes for your 3% Libertarian candidates at the same time the Democrats are adding 4% of their vote by vote fraud, Mexicans, and the Muslim invasion, we will not see 2020, guaranteed. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Waste your effort elsewhere. I'm voting for whom I want. Your sarcasm may work on the feeble minded. Not here. |
faint
(OP) User ID: 71360108 United States 02/03/2016 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: faint No Bush. No way, no how. No clue what I'll do. No one else appeals to my principles. That's why you need to vote for Trump! The entire R party needs to be disassembled and restructured. But I don't agree with Trump. I'm not voting for someone who plans to further infringe on my 4A rights in the name of "safety." Where have we heard this before? If we followed the constitution, none of the madness going on with illegals and terrorists would be happening. Limited government would limit the power these asses in DC are using to destroy our country, R and D. But they don't believe in limited government, it ties their slimy hands and keeps them from taking in millions of dollars. That is not what this country was founded on, or intended to be. ISIS is of our making. Is that constitutional? That's why we need to "do things we've never done before." No, I can't get on board with this. I've done nothing to deserve being monitored by my government. Bush did it, we screamed. Trump is going to enlarge the circle, why is this now ok? If you think one person can realign the R party, that's very hopeful. It can't even be done at a local level. I've seen the trials and failures. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oops, I missed that first time around... you mean "0bama's making." "WE" didn't do that. Yes, Obama. Not you or I. Not how I intended. Formerly faint |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66110500 United States 02/03/2016 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hugh G. Wreckshun That's why you need to vote for Trump! The entire R party needs to be disassembled and restructured. But I don't agree with Trump. I'm not voting for someone who plans to further infringe on my 4A rights in the name of "safety." Where have we heard this before? If we followed the constitution, none of the madness going on with illegals and terrorists would be happening. Limited government would limit the power these asses in DC are using to destroy our country, R and D. But they don't believe in limited government, it ties their slimy hands and keeps them from taking in millions of dollars. That is not what this country was founded on, or intended to be. ISIS is of our making. Is that constitutional? That's why we need to "do things we've never done before." No, I can't get on board with this. I've done nothing to deserve being monitored by my government. Bush did it, we screamed. Trump is going to enlarge the circle, why is this now ok? If you think one person can realign the R party, that's very hopeful. It can't even be done at a local level. I've seen the trials and failures. While I don't disagree with you in principle, if you're looking for the perfect candidate then you should run, yourself. It's clear at this point (to me anyway) that the power structures that exist need to be taken down. The reason the elites and the MSM hate Trump is because they know he's a wild card and cannot be controlled by them. It's a start. I don't really want the R party "realigned." I want it taken apart like a bull might take a china shop apart. Rubio's damn sure not going to do that. He's establishment all the way. Trump has the stones to stand up to the world and if he does HALF of what he's saying he wants to do, it's a step in the right direction. I agree that we shouldn't reject a good candidate just because he isn't perfect. But Trump's Patriot act support makes him unacceptable. A vote for Trump is a vote to put the nail* into the constitution permanently. I also think that those who think that he isn't an insider are participating in wishful thinking. ...to nail the coffin shut I mean. If Trump gets in (or any of the other for that matter) we are toast. |
Hugh G. Wreckshun
User ID: 5917739 United States 02/03/2016 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no idea what candidate (if any) Paul's people will rally around. I guess he felt like he better keep his voice in the Senate but I think he quit way too soon. Quoting: snark LP Gov. Gary Johnson Wasted vote. If you purists continue to siphon off Republican votes for your 3% Libertarian candidates at the same time the Democrats are adding 4% of their vote by vote fraud, Mexicans, and the Muslim invasion, we will not see 2020, guaranteed. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Waste your effort elsewhere. I'm voting for whom I want. Your sarcasm may work on the feeble minded. Not here. I don't see any sarcasm in Comedian's post. It's FACT! Hugh G. Wreckshun |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67942063 United States 02/03/2016 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump stole Rand's base before he even had a chance. The Ron Paul base flocked to Trump and abandoned Rand, much like Rand abandoned his father. I always liked Rand but he tried to cozy up to the GOPe and got burned by his base and by the establishment. Quoting: Author E.A. Blayre III I, too, wished that he tried to be Trump's VP but instead he attacked him. Rand is still young and can run again after 8 years of Trump. great post!!! i have to believe there were moles in both his staff and ron's that fed them horrible advice. how can rand blast trump after he endorsed mitt while his dad was still in the race? LOL trump is way more constitutional on immigration than ron/rand and right now thats a do or die issue. |
Taewen
User ID: 45470100 United States 02/03/2016 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He released a video on twitter less than an hour ago. Very surprising. Almost unbelievable. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Last Edited by Taewen on 02/03/2016 10:22 AM The first step in preparing a nation for war is to demonize the enemy and rally support from the public. The enemy must be viewed by the public as truly horrific. Only then, can the government unleash destruction against another people without backlash from the masses. These events have been scripted, publicized heavily and will be used as the justification. |
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Hugh G. Wreckshun
User ID: 5917739 United States 02/03/2016 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hugh G. Wreckshun That's why you need to vote for Trump! The entire R party needs to be disassembled and restructured. But I don't agree with Trump. I'm not voting for someone who plans to further infringe on my 4A rights in the name of "safety." Where have we heard this before? If we followed the constitution, none of the madness going on with illegals and terrorists would be happening. Limited government would limit the power these asses in DC are using to destroy our country, R and D. But they don't believe in limited government, it ties their slimy hands and keeps them from taking in millions of dollars. That is not what this country was founded on, or intended to be. ISIS is of our making. Is that constitutional? That's why we need to "do things we've never done before." No, I can't get on board with this. I've done nothing to deserve being monitored by my government. Bush did it, we screamed. Trump is going to enlarge the circle, why is this now ok? If you think one person can realign the R party, that's very hopeful. It can't even be done at a local level. I've seen the trials and failures. While I don't disagree with you in principle, if you're looking for the perfect candidate then you should run, yourself. It's clear at this point (to me anyway) that the power structures that exist need to be taken down. The reason the elites and the MSM hate Trump is because they know he's a wild card and cannot be controlled by them. It's a start. I don't really want the R party "realigned." I want it taken apart like a bull might take a china shop apart. Rubio's damn sure not going to do that. He's establishment all the way. Trump has the stones to stand up to the world and if he does HALF of what he's saying he wants to do, it's a step in the right direction. I agree that we shouldn't reject a good candidate just because he isn't perfect. But Trump's Patriot act support makes him unacceptable. A vote for Trump is a vote to put the nail into the constitution permanently. I also think that those who think that he isn't an insider are participating in wishful thinking. OK, so let's say you vote for the perfect, but unelectable, candidate and the Hildabeest takes the race (I don't even think she'll be the nominee, BTW - just saying). Let's say that Biden or Warren or some other Socialist wins the race. How much closer will you be to a Constitutional Republic than if Trump is elected? Didn't we already make this mistake with Ross Perot? The single-issue attitude is what gave us Clinton (vomit!). Hugh G. Wreckshun |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65919472 United States 02/03/2016 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasted vote. If you purists continue to siphon off Republican votes for your 3% Libertarian candidates at the same time the Democrats are adding 4% of their vote by vote fraud, Mexicans, and the Muslim invasion, we will not see 2020, guaranteed. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Waste your effort elsewhere. I'm voting for whom I want. Your sarcasm may work on the feeble minded. Not here. I don't see any sarcasm in Comedian's post. It's FACT! Your "facts" are experiments then. Look at what the clown wrote, 'won't see 2020 we all die' pure fearmongering bullshit. |
The Comedian :D
User ID: 38753862 United States 02/03/2016 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasted vote. If you purists continue to siphon off Republican votes for your 3% Libertarian candidates at the same time the Democrats are adding 4% of their vote by vote fraud, Mexicans, and the Muslim invasion, we will not see 2020, guaranteed. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Waste your effort elsewhere. I'm voting for whom I want. Your sarcasm may work on the feeble minded. Not here. I don't see any sarcasm in Comedian's post. It's FACT! Honky is a fuckhead. I make very little impact on double digit IQ owners. Hey Honky, remember, your day to vote is Nov. 9. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
Hugh G. Wreckshun
User ID: 5917739 United States 02/03/2016 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hugh G. Wreckshun That's why you need to vote for Trump! The entire R party needs to be disassembled and restructured. But I don't agree with Trump. I'm not voting for someone who plans to further infringe on my 4A rights in the name of "safety." Where have we heard this before? If we followed the constitution, none of the madness going on with illegals and terrorists would be happening. Limited government would limit the power these asses in DC are using to destroy our country, R and D. But they don't believe in limited government, it ties their slimy hands and keeps them from taking in millions of dollars. That is not what this country was founded on, or intended to be. ISIS is of our making. Is that constitutional? That's why we need to "do things we've never done before." No, I can't get on board with this. I've done nothing to deserve being monitored by my government. Bush did it, we screamed. Trump is going to enlarge the circle, why is this now ok? If you think one person can realign the R party, that's very hopeful. It can't even be done at a local level. I've seen the trials and failures. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oops, I missed that first time around... you mean "0bama's making." "WE" didn't do that. Yes, Obama. Not you or I. Not how I intended. Don't get me wrong - I am a Constitutional Originalist as well. But here's the thing.... we have stage 4 cancer right now and there are many things that need to be done. We're not going to get it all done in one election cycle. One operation won't rid us of all the tumors we've got. Trump says he'll secure the borders, he says he'll undo everything 0bama has done (all the EOs anyway), he said he supports NO GUN CONTROL laws... I agree the Fourth Amendment is important - REALLY important - but so is the rest of the Constitution. Do you really want the dems choosing the next three or more SCOTUS Justices???? Hugh G. Wreckshun |
faint
(OP) User ID: 71360108 United States 02/03/2016 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: faint But I don't agree with Trump. I'm not voting for someone who plans to further infringe on my 4A rights in the name of "safety." Where have we heard this before? If we followed the constitution, none of the madness going on with illegals and terrorists would be happening. Limited government would limit the power these asses in DC are using to destroy our country, R and D. But they don't believe in limited government, it ties their slimy hands and keeps them from taking in millions of dollars. That is not what this country was founded on, or intended to be. ISIS is of our making. Is that constitutional? That's why we need to "do things we've never done before." No, I can't get on board with this. I've done nothing to deserve being monitored by my government. Bush did it, we screamed. Trump is going to enlarge the circle, why is this now ok? If you think one person can realign the R party, that's very hopeful. It can't even be done at a local level. I've seen the trials and failures. While I don't disagree with you in principle, if you're looking for the perfect candidate then you should run, yourself. It's clear at this point (to me anyway) that the power structures that exist need to be taken down. The reason the elites and the MSM hate Trump is because they know he's a wild card and cannot be controlled by them. It's a start. I don't really want the R party "realigned." I want it taken apart like a bull might take a china shop apart. Rubio's damn sure not going to do that. He's establishment all the way. Trump has the stones to stand up to the world and if he does HALF of what he's saying he wants to do, it's a step in the right direction. I agree that we shouldn't reject a good candidate just because he isn't perfect. But Trump's Patriot act support makes him unacceptable. A vote for Trump is a vote to put the nail into the constitution permanently. I also think that those who think that he isn't an insider are participating in wishful thinking. OK, so let's say you vote for the perfect, but unelectable, candidate and the Hildabeest takes the race (I don't even think she'll be the nominee, BTW - just saying). Let's say that Biden or Warren or some other Socialist wins the race. How much closer will you be to a Constitutional Republic than if Trump is elected? Didn't we already make this mistake with Ross Perot? The single-issue attitude is what gave us Clinton (vomit!). I hope you see I corrected my post above, to you. I don't remember the % by which Romney lost, but it probably was not due to write-ins and Gary Johnson voters who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Mitt. Or I could be mistaken. Nonetheless, we are entitled to our principles. If there are more idiots out there that are willing to vote in Sanders (I agree w you on that prediction) and join the FSA, then it is not the fault of the principled voter - it is the fault of the greedy, ignorant voter who pulled the lever for the communist. Formerly faint |
The Comedian :D
User ID: 38753862 United States 02/03/2016 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: faint But I don't agree with Trump. I'm not voting for someone who plans to further infringe on my 4A rights in the name of "safety." Where have we heard this before? If we followed the constitution, none of the madness going on with illegals and terrorists would be happening. Limited government would limit the power these asses in DC are using to destroy our country, R and D. But they don't believe in limited government, it ties their slimy hands and keeps them from taking in millions of dollars. That is not what this country was founded on, or intended to be. ISIS is of our making. Is that constitutional? That's why we need to "do things we've never done before." No, I can't get on board with this. I've done nothing to deserve being monitored by my government. Bush did it, we screamed. Trump is going to enlarge the circle, why is this now ok? If you think one person can realign the R party, that's very hopeful. It can't even be done at a local level. I've seen the trials and failures. While I don't disagree with you in principle, if you're looking for the perfect candidate then you should run, yourself. It's clear at this point (to me anyway) that the power structures that exist need to be taken down. The reason the elites and the MSM hate Trump is because they know he's a wild card and cannot be controlled by them. It's a start. I don't really want the R party "realigned." I want it taken apart like a bull might take a china shop apart. Rubio's damn sure not going to do that. He's establishment all the way. Trump has the stones to stand up to the world and if he does HALF of what he's saying he wants to do, it's a step in the right direction. I agree that we shouldn't reject a good candidate just because he isn't perfect. But Trump's Patriot act support makes him unacceptable. A vote for Trump is a vote to put the nail into the constitution permanently. I also think that those who think that he isn't an insider are participating in wishful thinking. OK, so let's say you vote for the perfect, but unelectable, candidate and the Hildabeest takes the race (I don't even think she'll be the nominee, BTW - just saying). Let's say that Biden or Warren or some other Socialist wins the race. How much closer will you be to a Constitutional Republic than if Trump is elected? Didn't we already make this mistake with Ross Perot? The single-issue attitude is what gave us Clinton (vomit!). Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
The Comedian :D
User ID: 38753862 United States 02/03/2016 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hugh G. Wreckshun While I don't disagree with you in principle, if you're looking for the perfect candidate then you should run, yourself. It's clear at this point (to me anyway) that the power structures that exist need to be taken down. The reason the elites and the MSM hate Trump is because they know he's a wild card and cannot be controlled by them. It's a start. I don't really want the R party "realigned." I want it taken apart like a bull might take a china shop apart. Rubio's damn sure not going to do that. He's establishment all the way. Trump has the stones to stand up to the world and if he does HALF of what he's saying he wants to do, it's a step in the right direction. I agree that we shouldn't reject a good candidate just because he isn't perfect. But Trump's Patriot act support makes him unacceptable. A vote for Trump is a vote to put the nail into the constitution permanently. I also think that those who think that he isn't an insider are participating in wishful thinking. OK, so let's say you vote for the perfect, but unelectable, candidate and the Hildabeest takes the race (I don't even think she'll be the nominee, BTW - just saying). Let's say that Biden or Warren or some other Socialist wins the race. How much closer will you be to a Constitutional Republic than if Trump is elected? Didn't we already make this mistake with Ross Perot? The single-issue attitude is what gave us Clinton (vomit!). I hope you see I corrected my post above, to you. I don't remember the % by which Romney lost, but it probably was not due to write-ins and Gary Johnson voters who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Mitt. Or I could be mistaken. Nonetheless, we are entitled to our principles. If there are more idiots out there that are willing to vote in Sanders (I agree w you on that prediction) and join the FSA, then it is not the fault of the principled voter - it is the fault of the greedy, ignorant voter who pulled the lever for the communist. The issue here isn't fault. It's survival, and the tactics needed today in order to be alive to fight tomorrow. Hugh, how the fuck else do I explain this? I'm running out of metaphors. Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66110500 United States 02/03/2016 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: faint But I don't agree with Trump. I'm not voting for someone who plans to further infringe on my 4A rights in the name of "safety." Where have we heard this before? If we followed the constitution, none of the madness going on with illegals and terrorists would be happening. Limited government would limit the power these asses in DC are using to destroy our country, R and D. But they don't believe in limited government, it ties their slimy hands and keeps them from taking in millions of dollars. That is not what this country was founded on, or intended to be. ISIS is of our making. Is that constitutional? That's why we need to "do things we've never done before." No, I can't get on board with this. I've done nothing to deserve being monitored by my government. Bush did it, we screamed. Trump is going to enlarge the circle, why is this now ok? If you think one person can realign the R party, that's very hopeful. It can't even be done at a local level. I've seen the trials and failures. While I don't disagree with you in principle, if you're looking for the perfect candidate then you should run, yourself. It's clear at this point (to me anyway) that the power structures that exist need to be taken down. The reason the elites and the MSM hate Trump is because they know he's a wild card and cannot be controlled by them. It's a start. I don't really want the R party "realigned." I want it taken apart like a bull might take a china shop apart. Rubio's damn sure not going to do that. He's establishment all the way. Trump has the stones to stand up to the world and if he does HALF of what he's saying he wants to do, it's a step in the right direction. I agree that we shouldn't reject a good candidate just because he isn't perfect. But Trump's Patriot act support makes him unacceptable. A vote for Trump is a vote to put the nail into the constitution permanently. I also think that those who think that he isn't an insider are participating in wishful thinking. OK, so let's say you vote for the perfect, but unelectable, candidate and the Hildabeest takes the race (I don't even think she'll be the nominee, BTW - just saying). Let's say that Biden or Warren or some other Socialist wins the race. How much closer will you be to a Constitutional Republic than if Trump is elected? Didn't we already make this mistake with Ross Perot? The single-issue attitude is what gave us Clinton (vomit!). All the rest are socialists or fascists, though. We have gotten to a point where there isn't an acceptable compromise candidate. As sneaky Dick Morris once said, there are certain things that a Republican can more easily push through (i.e. Patriot Act or federalizing education) and certain things that a democrat will have more success with (i.e healthcare). Both are pushing the same agenda forward, though. So 'better' is a relative term. I am a lifelong Republican who thinks that GW Bush was at least in the top three most destructive presidents of all time. Was he "better" than Obama? I guess that argument could be made, but I don't see the value in supporting that kind of better. I draw the line at support for the neocon agenda (i.e. bankrupting and weakening our country in oil pipeline wars) and blatant disregard for the constitution (i.e. Patriot act support). If a candidate openly supports either of these things it is extremely likely that they will be as destructive to the country as GW...which is unacceptable in the extreme. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66110500 United States 02/03/2016 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hugh G. Wreckshun While I don't disagree with you in principle, if you're looking for the perfect candidate then you should run, yourself. It's clear at this point (to me anyway) that the power structures that exist need to be taken down. The reason the elites and the MSM hate Trump is because they know he's a wild card and cannot be controlled by them. It's a start. I don't really want the R party "realigned." I want it taken apart like a bull might take a china shop apart. Rubio's damn sure not going to do that. He's establishment all the way. Trump has the stones to stand up to the world and if he does HALF of what he's saying he wants to do, it's a step in the right direction. I agree that we shouldn't reject a good candidate just because he isn't perfect. But Trump's Patriot act support makes him unacceptable. A vote for Trump is a vote to put the nail into the constitution permanently. I also think that those who think that he isn't an insider are participating in wishful thinking. OK, so let's say you vote for the perfect, but unelectable, candidate and the Hildabeest takes the race (I don't even think she'll be the nominee, BTW - just saying). Let's say that Biden or Warren or some other Socialist wins the race. How much closer will you be to a Constitutional Republic than if Trump is elected? Didn't we already make this mistake with Ross Perot? The single-issue attitude is what gave us Clinton (vomit!). All the rest are socialists or fascists, though. We have gotten to a point where there isn't an acceptable compromise candidate. As sneaky Dick Morris once said, there are certain things that a Republican can more easily push through (i.e. Patriot Act or federalizing education) and certain things that a democrat will have more success with (i.e healthcare). Both are pushing the same agenda forward, though. So 'better' is a relative term. I am a lifelong Republican who thinks that GW Bush was at least in the top three most destructive presidents of all time. Was he "better" than Obama? I guess that argument could be made, but I don't see the value in supporting that kind of better. I draw the line at support for the neocon agenda (i.e. bankrupting and weakening our country in oil pipeline wars) and blatant disregard for the constitution (i.e. Patriot act support). If a candidate openly supports either of these things it is extremely likely that they will be as destructive to the country as GW...which is unacceptable in the extreme. In short, Hillary is terrible and frightening, but so is Trump. |
faint
(OP) User ID: 71360108 United States 02/03/2016 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: faint But I don't agree with Trump. I'm not voting for someone who plans to further infringe on my 4A rights in the name of "safety." Where have we heard this before? If we followed the constitution, none of the madness going on with illegals and terrorists would be happening. Limited government would limit the power these asses in DC are using to destroy our country, R and D. But they don't believe in limited government, it ties their slimy hands and keeps them from taking in millions of dollars. That is not what this country was founded on, or intended to be. ISIS is of our making. Is that constitutional? That's why we need to "do things we've never done before." No, I can't get on board with this. I've done nothing to deserve being monitored by my government. Bush did it, we screamed. Trump is going to enlarge the circle, why is this now ok? If you think one person can realign the R party, that's very hopeful. It can't even be done at a local level. I've seen the trials and failures. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oops, I missed that first time around... you mean "0bama's making." "WE" didn't do that. Yes, Obama. Not you or I. Not how I intended. Don't get me wrong - I am a Constitutional Originalist as well. But here's the thing.... we have stage 4 cancer right now and there are many things that need to be done. We're not going to get it all done in one election cycle. One operation won't rid us of all the tumors we've got. Trump says he'll secure the borders, he says he'll undo everything 0bama has done (all the EOs anyway), he said he supports NO GUN CONTROL laws... I agree the Fourth Amendment is important - REALLY important - but so is the rest of the Constitution. Do you really want the dems choosing the next three or more SCOTUS Justices???? Well hell to the giant naw on SCOTUS for sure, but they have to go through congressional approval first, so our efforts should be concentrated there first and foremost. Congress is supposed to be our spokesman; in most situations those elections are more important than who is POTUS. Do you know how Trump gets along with congressional leaders and reps, by chance? The Comedian said you're the one in the know. Formerly faint |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65919472 United States 02/03/2016 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66110500 I agree that we shouldn't reject a good candidate just because he isn't perfect. But Trump's Patriot act support makes him unacceptable. A vote for Trump is a vote to put the nail into the constitution permanently. I also think that those who think that he isn't an insider are participating in wishful thinking. OK, so let's say you vote for the perfect, but unelectable, candidate and the Hildabeest takes the race (I don't even think she'll be the nominee, BTW - just saying). Let's say that Biden or Warren or some other Socialist wins the race. How much closer will you be to a Constitutional Republic than if Trump is elected? Didn't we already make this mistake with Ross Perot? The single-issue attitude is what gave us Clinton (vomit!). All the rest are socialists or fascists, though. We have gotten to a point where there isn't an acceptable compromise candidate. As sneaky Dick Morris once said, there are certain things that a Republican can more easily push through (i.e. Patriot Act or federalizing education) and certain things that a democrat will have more success with (i.e healthcare). Both are pushing the same agenda forward, though. So 'better' is a relative term. I am a lifelong Republican who thinks that GW Bush was at least in the top three most destructive presidents of all time. Was he "better" than Obama? I guess that argument could be made, but I don't see the value in supporting that kind of better. I draw the line at support for the neocon agenda (i.e. bankrupting and weakening our country in oil pipeline wars) and blatant disregard for the constitution (i.e. Patriot act support). If a candidate openly supports either of these things it is extremely likely that they will be as destructive to the country as GW...which is unacceptable in the extreme. In short, Hillary is terrible and frightening, but so is Trump. Good posts, both of them and I agree. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70162470 United States 02/03/2016 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good news. Jeb Bush and Carla Fiorina should also quit. Quoting: Thumbs up for Trump 70944712 Trump will Triumph. I hate to admit it, but I doubt it. Paul supporter's are likely to turn to bush. I think he could beat Hillary, and that is what we need to focus on now. We can't let her in the White House. The madness has to end. I don't believe that. I'm a Trump supporter, but I've always like the Pauls. If Trump wasn't in the race, I'd be all in for Rand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70457061 United States 02/03/2016 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, like an idiot, he pissed in Trump's corn flakes, so it's back to obscurity in the Senate, staying quiet when Mitch McConnel fucks us over, like he always did. What if it's all just a show and he quits while he's ahead (not literally). He ran just enough to boost his ratings. Then when Trump becomes the nominee he can pick Rand as VP. It would be a guaranteed win for Trump. What if Rand isn't as stupid as his dad? The establishment hates him almost as much as Trump. He wants to help restore gun rights to felons. It would be a perfect balance of power for both in charge. |
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User ID: 9416702 United States 02/03/2016 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did the constitution say anything about the government flooding the newswires with false stories? Rand Paul, like every other senator, voted yes on NDAA 2012 which contained the repeal of Smith Mundt Act. This allowed the government to spend our tax dollars to script and produce fake news stories. Sandy Hook, anyone? Don't get me started on Rand Paul and his support of Monsanto. Please, everyone, stop voting for sentimental reasons, use your brain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35612210 United States 02/03/2016 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Comedian :D Wasted vote. If you purists continue to siphon off Republican votes for your 3% Libertarian candidates at the same time the Democrats are adding 4% of their vote by vote fraud, Mexicans, and the Muslim invasion, we will not see 2020, guaranteed. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Waste your effort elsewhere. I'm voting for whom I want. Your sarcasm may work on the feeble minded. Not here. I don't see any sarcasm in Comedian's post. It's FACT! Honky is a fuckhead. I make very little impact on double digit IQ owners. Hey Honky, remember, your day to vote is Nov. 9. You make very little impact period. Don't flatter yourself. And I've never missed a primary (or a general). But thanks for your goofy false date crap. It's very becoming of you. |
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(OP) User ID: 71360108 United States 02/03/2016 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66110500 I agree that we shouldn't reject a good candidate just because he isn't perfect. But Trump's Patriot act support makes him unacceptable. A vote for Trump is a vote to put the nail into the constitution permanently. I also think that those who think that he isn't an insider are participating in wishful thinking. OK, so let's say you vote for the perfect, but unelectable, candidate and the Hildabeest takes the race (I don't even think she'll be the nominee, BTW - just saying). Let's say that Biden or Warren or some other Socialist wins the race. How much closer will you be to a Constitutional Republic than if Trump is elected? Didn't we already make this mistake with Ross Perot? The single-issue attitude is what gave us Clinton (vomit!). I hope you see I corrected my post above, to you. I don't remember the % by which Romney lost, but it probably was not due to write-ins and Gary Johnson voters who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Mitt. Or I could be mistaken. Nonetheless, we are entitled to our principles. If there are more idiots out there that are willing to vote in Sanders (I agree w you on that prediction) and join the FSA, then it is not the fault of the principled voter - it is the fault of the greedy, ignorant voter who pulled the lever for the communist. The issue here isn't fault. It's survival, and the tactics needed today in order to be alive to fight tomorrow. Hugh, how the fuck else do I explain this? I'm running out of metaphors. I am not stupid and don't need to be "educated." I just don't agree with jumping on board with someone I'm uncomfortable with. Haven't I that right? Say i don't vote for Trump, will this ruin the race? Or am I entitled to my principles over fear? You know me, I have kids, I hate what the D's would do, but that doesn't mean I have to compromise my standards out of peer pressure. If America is stupid, greedy, and brainwashed enough to vote in a socialist without my one vote, what does tell you about our country? I don't have a good metaphor, either. Formerly faint |
ron spawn User ID: 71351470 United States 02/03/2016 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure what to say. Quoting: faint His message was liberty. He isn't his dad, but he's dern close. My mom just came over to me and simply said, "I heard," with sad eyes. She's in her 70's and gets him. Sad day here. ayn rand pimped for romney instead of his dad in that presidential race atlas shrugged him off like the sack of shit he was |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35612210 United States 02/03/2016 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hugh G. Wreckshun OK, so let's say you vote for the perfect, but unelectable, candidate and the Hildabeest takes the race (I don't even think she'll be the nominee, BTW - just saying). Let's say that Biden or Warren or some other Socialist wins the race. How much closer will you be to a Constitutional Republic than if Trump is elected? Didn't we already make this mistake with Ross Perot? The single-issue attitude is what gave us Clinton (vomit!). I hope you see I corrected my post above, to you. I don't remember the % by which Romney lost, but it probably was not due to write-ins and Gary Johnson voters who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Mitt. Or I could be mistaken. Nonetheless, we are entitled to our principles. If there are more idiots out there that are willing to vote in Sanders (I agree w you on that prediction) and join the FSA, then it is not the fault of the principled voter - it is the fault of the greedy, ignorant voter who pulled the lever for the communist. The issue here isn't fault. It's survival, and the tactics needed today in order to be alive to fight tomorrow. Hugh, how the fuck else do I explain this? I'm running out of metaphors. I am not stupid and don't need to be "educated." I just don't agree with jumping on board with someone I'm uncomfortable with. Haven't I that right? Say i don't vote for Trump, will this ruin the race? Or am I entitled to my principles over fear? You know me, I have kids, I hate what the D's would do, but that doesn't mean I have to compromise my standards out of peer pressure. If America is stupid, greedy, and brainwashed enough to vote in a socialist without my one vote, what does tell you about our country? I don't have a good metaphor, either. Easy now. Mr. high IQ will be calling you a fuckhead soon too. LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67942063 United States 02/03/2016 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: faint But I don't agree with Trump. I'm not voting for someone who plans to further infringe on my 4A rights in the name of "safety." Where have we heard this before? If we followed the constitution, none of the madness going on with illegals and terrorists would be happening. Limited government would limit the power these asses in DC are using to destroy our country, R and D. But they don't believe in limited government, it ties their slimy hands and keeps them from taking in millions of dollars. That is not what this country was founded on, or intended to be. ISIS is of our making. Is that constitutional? That's why we need to "do things we've never done before." No, I can't get on board with this. I've done nothing to deserve being monitored by my government. Bush did it, we screamed. Trump is going to enlarge the circle, why is this now ok? If you think one person can realign the R party, that's very hopeful. It can't even be done at a local level. I've seen the trials and failures. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oops, I missed that first time around... you mean "0bama's making." "WE" didn't do that. Yes, Obama. Not you or I. Not how I intended. Don't get me wrong - I am a Constitutional Originalist as well. But here's the thing.... we have stage 4 cancer right now and there are many things that need to be done. We're not going to get it all done in one election cycle. One operation won't rid us of all the tumors we've got. Trump says he'll secure the borders, he says he'll undo everything 0bama has done (all the EOs anyway), he said he supports NO GUN CONTROL laws... I agree the Fourth Amendment is important - REALLY important - but so is the rest of the Constitution. Do you really want the dems choosing the next three or more SCOTUS Justices???? |
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(OP) User ID: 71360108 United States 02/03/2016 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: faint I hope you see I corrected my post above, to you. I don't remember the % by which Romney lost, but it probably was not due to write-ins and Gary Johnson voters who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Mitt. Or I could be mistaken. Nonetheless, we are entitled to our principles. If there are more idiots out there that are willing to vote in Sanders (I agree w you on that prediction) and join the FSA, then it is not the fault of the principled voter - it is the fault of the greedy, ignorant voter who pulled the lever for the communist. The issue here isn't fault. It's survival, and the tactics needed today in order to be alive to fight tomorrow. Hugh, how the fuck else do I explain this? I'm running out of metaphors. I am not stupid and don't need to be "educated." I just don't agree with jumping on board with someone I'm uncomfortable with. Haven't I that right? Say i don't vote for Trump, will this ruin the race? Or am I entitled to my principles over fear? You know me, I have kids, I hate what the D's would do, but that doesn't mean I have to compromise my standards out of peer pressure. If America is stupid, greedy, and brainwashed enough to vote in a socialist without my one vote, what does tell you about our country? I don't have a good metaphor, either. Easy now. Mr. high IQ will be calling you a fuckhead soon too. LOL Eh, I think he is amicable enough to debate. Formerly faint |
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