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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47586410 United States 08/13/2016 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aramaic & Hebrew have words with diametric meaning. This word ShiBaQ as in Ps.22 is one such, meaning 'Quit.' It is both 'Abandon' (leave off, let alone) and 'Dismiss' (permit to remain, preservation)... With the infix of a Waw as ShuWBaQ it is a 'Forsaking'. The written in Greek SABAChThANI (besides the usual S for Sh and Th for T) shows a Xi (Chi /ks) hinting to ShaBaHk 'Keep in, Pacify' which compelled some evangelicals to say He meant this "Kept" and that the "which interpreted means" was a later comment from the margin into the text inserted (so parenthetical). I would say that the context is interesting in that at this saying coincides a mishearing as it is thought that "He calls on Elijah", and that this cues one to look into the ShB based words -as He was in a awkward position injured and near death as well as amid confusion so hearing exact enunciations would be a difficult... What if the word was ZeBaCh rather than Aramaic SaBaCh(?) now theres a Theologically LOADED statement(!); Insert the word you find sounding as such and check it with the quoted saying: ELiY My God L-MaH To/For-What(?/!) ____-TaNiY -Was/haveBeen I |
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(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States 08/15/2016 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rome is also associated with groma, that is, "cross-roads." When the Vernal Equinox was in the sign of Rom or the Ram, that was of course the place of the cross-roads, or intersection of the celestial equator and the ecliptic, or apparent path of the sun through the constellations. There appears no occasion for classifying Rome of the cross-roads with Lutetia, or "mud-town," as has lately been done. Remus is always in Greek Romus, while Romulus was sometimes expressed Remulus. Livy derives Ram-nenses a Romulo. Rama and Roma, like the Hebrew Rom and Rum, signify strength and also height, as of hills. The seven hills or heights of Rome correspond to the seven stars of the Pleiades, at the point of the solar passover from Taurus to the Ram. Anciently, the Ram appears to have been figured as facing toward Taurus; for the Ram's horn is called both G D (whence the name of God) and also the ox-goad (also G D) in allusion to the adjacent Taurus. The role played by rams' horns in Hebrew wars and worship is familiar to all Bible students. The Taurus goad or celestial ruler enthroned in the Pleiades constellation, or the Ram's horn, also yields the letter Lamed of the Hebrew alphabet, and the divine titles of El and Elohim, Elijah, Elias., etc., while in Revelation the seven stars are held in the right hand of the First and the Last, the Alpha and Omega. The name of the ancient engine of war, known as the battering ram, would indicate that the sign Aries, or the Ram, was so called because under that sign the nations were dashed to pieces with a rod of iron, literally a sidereal,*i.e., an iron = meteoric rod. "They call the siderite stone the bone of Horus." —(Plutarch : "Isis and Osiris.") Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 08/15/2016 11:43 PM "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States 09/16/2016 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are in SPACE 18 my friends, which started on or about ~1998 and ends about ~2853. Transgressions came full for Zechariah around ~1998. Transgressions will come full for Daniel around ~2133, so I pray to wash the harm from your back, as the "Ancient of Days" could arrive for Judgement at any time there after up to about ~2183. The iniquity of the Amorites will be full after two thousand one hundred years. The life of the Messiah must be added, thus ~2133. There also needs to be a lapse of time prior to the ushering in of the thousands years, when the Messiah arrives arrives, but prior, back to the end of Daniel, "Elias" comes to restore all things. (Is that a Comet Strike that restores our tilt?) Judgement happens then, as the crust is split open and we tumble from the impact? Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 09/16/2016 08:02 PM "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States 09/16/2016 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Understand the Amorites part in this please... Joshua 10:12-14 (KJV) 12 Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. 13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. 14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the Lord hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the Lord fought for Israel. "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States 09/18/2016 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE CRUCIFIXION. Quoting: Albert Ross ParsonsAlbert Ross Parsons - 1893 A.M. Thursday 14th of Nisan, 4027 B.C. Thursday March 17, A.D. 29 Jesus the Nazarite crucified at Jerusalem at the same time that the cross of the earth's equator and the solar ecliptic (the last occurrence of the Vernal Equinox in the sign of Aires, the dying Lamb of Gad, was erected at the intersection of the celestial mansions of Aries and the Fishes. Jesus, the Microcosm, who not being cosmic yet came to men as cosmic, dies in triumph, exclaiming "El, El how hast Thou glorified me,"* while the Microcosmic man, Adam Kadmon, is stretched upon the celestial cross in the heavens. * See "The Egyptian-Hebrew Mystery" Skinner. Parsons Reference: pg. 268 New light from the great pyramid: the astronomico-geographical system of the ancients recovered and applied to the elucidation of history, ceremony, symbolism, and religion, with an exposition of the evolution from the prehistoric, objective, scientific religion of Adam Kadmon, the macrocosm, of the historic, subjective, spiritual religion of Christ Jesus, the microcosm. - Albert Ross Parsons - 1893 I believe I have shown both 29 and 33.9 as the years of the life of the Messiah. So, 2133 is the first year of the end of Daniels 70. What he was passed to drink... We have no secondary source of the words Jesus spoke; we only have secondary sources through Matthew, Mark, and John, who tell us about the crowd at the scene and their reaction to what they thought Jesus said. Some in the crowd said, "Hey, he's calling Elias! Maybe he'll come and get him down off the cross!" - As if it were a big joke. Some other said, "He says he's thirsty! Some one give him a drink!" So someone ran to a bowl of vinegar, put a sponge on a reed, soaked it in vinegar and held it to Jesus' lips. Why? I do not know yet... Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 09/18/2016 04:17 PM "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States 09/18/2016 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is getting interesting now! Can you help explain why Lovecraft heavily modified ancient Sumerian? Thanks for posting that! EDIT: [link to answers.yahoo.com (secure)] Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 09/18/2016 01:22 PM "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72944004 Canada 10/12/2016 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the words of Jesus, and both Mark and Mathews' interpretation of those words. Quoting: Bridge of Sighs Matthew 27 Quoting: Matthew & Jesus - KJV45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias. 48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink. 49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. Mark 15 Quoting: Mark & Jesus - KJV33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias. 36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down. 37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? What was Jesus saying? No such words existed in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, nor any other language known in the area at the time. If both Matthew and Mark wrote down exactly what they thought they heard, then the following "interpretation" may be incorrect! Let us look back at these words again: 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I know the answer... While you think of what to ask me, how about a few barely pops. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] ...your on the wrong side of history... :fairuseforme: this is easy do you want to know? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72944004 Canada 10/12/2016 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aramaic Prayer Psalms 53 Psalm 53King James Version (KJV) 53 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. 2 God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. 3 Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 4 Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread: they have not called upon God. 5 There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them. 6 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! When God bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71002748 United States 10/12/2016 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The search for those words from the known languages of that time, including Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, returns zero results. "Eli" was not found. How ironic, that later in time, the Hebrews added the meaning of "Eli" as "My God" to their language. The very people who shouted for his crucifixion, would later adopt his final words into their language, even though their true meaning was wrong. Quoting: Bridge of Sighs Don't be on the wrong side of history.... GET BEHIND ME SATAN!!! Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72944004 Canada 10/12/2016 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe because Jesus was a human, not God. His miracles were done by God's power working thru Him. He had no power and did not know what to expect. He was offered up in sacrifice and died. Of course He would be hurt and ask in confusion why God had forsaken Him. No rescue, no magical last minute reprisal. Death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71666850 Yes. And. this comes to heart are you afraid to die? why do people fear death? Psalm 23King James Version (KJV) 23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. You see Jesus was man and God...but he had to live out the son of Man vessel...fully. Meaning Birth Temptation Baptism and Death Resurrection when we pass through that corridor...there is something that happens...we are faced with death face to face .... children do not go through this but adults do he walked through that fear for us so that when we walk through that corridor we will not fear because he went through it first... And Resurrected |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72944004 Canada 10/12/2016 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe because Jesus was a human, not God. His miracles were done by God's power working thru Him. He had no power and did not know what to expect. He was offered up in sacrifice and died. Of course He would be hurt and ask in confusion why God had forsaken Him. No rescue, no magical last minute reprisal. Death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71666850 Yes. And. this comes to heart are you afraid to die? why do people fear death? Psalm 23King James Version (KJV) 23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. You see Jesus was man and God...but he had to live out the son of Man vessel...fully. Meaning Birth Temptation Baptism and Death Resurrection when we pass through that corridor...there is something that happens...we are faced with death face to face .... children do not go through this but adults do he walked through that fear for us so that when we walk through that corridor we will not fear because he went through it first... And Resurrected for children the transition is glorious as the Angels of Comfort are there not so much for men our faith is tested |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72944004 Canada 10/12/2016 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe because Jesus was a human, not God. His miracles were done by God's power working thru Him. He had no power and did not know what to expect. He was offered up in sacrifice and died. Of course He would be hurt and ask in confusion why God had forsaken Him. No rescue, no magical last minute reprisal. Death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71666850 Yes. And. this comes to heart are you afraid to die? why do people fear death? Psalm 23King James Version (KJV) 23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. You see Jesus was man and God...but he had to live out the son of Man vessel...fully. Meaning Birth Temptation Baptism and Death Resurrection when we pass through that corridor...there is something that happens...we are faced with death face to face .... children do not go through this but adults do he walked through that fear for us so that when we walk through that corridor we will not fear because he went through it first... And Resurrected for children the transition is glorious as the Angels of Comfort are there not so much for men our faith is tested but although as men and women we walk through this corridor we must not forget even though we may not see Him He is with us do not be afraid |
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