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| Bridge of Sighs
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1347659  United States01/03/2016 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the words of Jesus, and both Mark and Mathews' interpretation of those words. Matthew 27 Quoting: Matthew & Jesus - KJV45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias. 48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink. 49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. Mark 15 Quoting: Mark & Jesus - KJV33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias. 36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down. 37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? What was Jesus saying? No such words existed in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, nor any other language known in the area at the time. If both Matthew and Mark wrote down exactly what they thought they heard, then the following "interpretation" may be incorrect! Let us look back at these words again: 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I know the answer... While you think of what to ask me, how about a few barely pops.  [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] ...your on the wrong side of history...  Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 01/03/2016 04:06 PM "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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| Bridge of Sighs
(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States01/03/2016 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sorry to say, no they are not. I will post the answer in due time. Much to learn, much to learn, and so little time my friend. "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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| Bridge of Sighs
(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States01/03/2016 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The search for those words from the known languages of that time, including Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, returns zero results. "Eli" was not found. How ironic, that later in time, the Hebrews added the meaning of "Eli" as "My God" to their language. The very people who shouted for his crucifixion, would later adopt his final words into their language, even though their true meaning was wrong. Don't be on the wrong side of history.... "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
| Kiraa le goat
User ID: 70835447 United States01/03/2016 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the books that are 'banned' from the bible, Jeshua talks about a 'blind god', Samael. That is why he thought he was abaondoned, because that is what THAT being does, abandon his children, or murder them outright, or badly abuse them. The True Father doesn't do or want anyone to suffer. The True God was not the one that demanded he hang on the cross, either. |
| Bridge of Sighs
(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States01/03/2016 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I found the answer, I started researching it. The trails run cold as if someone does not want this known. This fits with "conspiracy" of what we are here for, right?  "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States01/03/2016 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Their extreme age is attested to by the fact that history says the Naacals left Burma more than 15,000 years ago. "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42002742 United States01/03/2016 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hint: The Naacal tablets are written with the Naga symbols and characters— and, legend says, were written in the Motherland and first brought to Burma and then to India. Quoting: Bridge of Sighs Their extreme age is attested to by the fact that history says the Naacals left Burma more than 15,000 years ago. Says you. One will not find transliterated words in a dictionary. This is on the same lines as the name Jesus, which is not the real name of the son of God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63646418 United States01/03/2016 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Naacal is the name of an ancient people and civilization first claimed to have existed by Augustus Le Plongeon and later by James Churchward. Though there is no scientific or archaeological evidence for the existence of the Naacals, various later fictional works have made use of them. |
| LTHN. User ID: 42043972  Canada01/03/2016 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Naacal is the name of an ancient people and civilization first claimed to have existed by Augustus Le Plongeon and later by James Churchward. Though there is no scientific or archaeological evidence for the existence of the Naacals, various later fictional works have made use of them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63646418 Thanks, always appreciate clarification. |
| Bridge of Sighs
(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States01/03/2016 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer: Prehistoric Mayan or Naga. There the words were, as large as life: "Heli, heli, lamat sabac ta ni" means "I am fainting, I am fainting, darkness is overcoming me." I will stop here and let this soak in. I did find where the missing years of Jesus story from Luke 2:41 to Luke 3:23. From age 12-30 are missing from the Bible. Only about 55 days of his life are accounted for in the Bible. The is a prehistoric town called Adjudia in Northern India.... Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 01/03/2016 05:34 PM "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 50292948 United States01/03/2016 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The search for those words from the known languages of that time, including Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, returns zero results. "Eli" was not found. How ironic, that later in time, the Hebrews added the meaning of "Eli" as "My God" to their language. The very people who shouted for his crucifixion, would later adopt his final words into their language, even though their true meaning was wrong. Quoting: Bridge of Sighs Don't be on the wrong side of history.... Interesting I always wondered about this saying. |
| MyNameIsRickMoranis
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 50292948 United States01/03/2016 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer: Prehistoric Mayan or Naga. There the words were, as large as life: Quoting: Bridge of Sighs "Heli, heli, lamat sabac ta ni" means "I am fainting, I am fainting, darkness is overcoming me." I will stop here and let this soak in. I did find where the missing years of Jesus story from Luke 2:41 to Luke 3:23. From age 12-30 are missing from the Bible. Only about 55 days of his life are accounted for in the Bible. The is a prehistoric town called Adjudia in Northern India.... So you think this all happened in India? I feel like there was an impostor years later after Jesus ascended to heaven. |
| PanosGR
User ID: 71093603  Greece01/03/2016 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer: Prehistoric Mayan or Naga. There the words were, as large as life: Quoting: Bridge of Sighs "Heli, heli, lamat sabac ta ni" means "I am fainting, I am fainting, darkness is overcoming me." I will stop here and let this soak in. I did find where the missing years of Jesus story from Luke 2:41 to Luke 3:23. From age 12-30 are missing from the Bible. Only about 55 days of his life are accounted for in the Bible. The is a prehistoric town called Adjudia in Northern India.... According to this site [link to pakalahau.wordpress.com (secure)] the words mean "Now I immerse myself in the pre-dawn of your presence" or "‘And now, I immerse myself and spill (my blood or my fear?) from the vessel that is in front ( of my Father?)." Last Edited by PanosGR on 01/03/2016 05:45 PM |
| Bridge of Sighs
(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States01/03/2016 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer: Prehistoric Mayan or Naga. There the words were, as large as life: Quoting: Bridge of Sighs "Heli, heli, lamat sabac ta ni" means "I am fainting, I am fainting, darkness is overcoming me." I will stop here and let this soak in. I did find where the missing years of Jesus story from Luke 2:41 to Luke 3:23. From age 12-30 are missing from the Bible. Only about 55 days of his life are accounted for in the Bible. The is a prehistoric town called Adjudia in Northern India.... According to this site [link to pakalahau.wordpress.com (secure)] the words mean "Now I immerse myself in the pre-dawn of your presence" Perfect, now we have three sources that say different. Much to learn about who correctly translated now. Thanks for contributing! Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 01/03/2016 05:50 PM "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
| Ravenage
User ID: 70689953 United States01/03/2016 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? "The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. ... Our own fight for the West does not begin on the battlefield — it begins with our minds, our wills, and our souls... Americans, Poles, and the nations of Europe value individual freedom and sovereignty. We must work together to counter forces, whether they come from inside or out, from the South or the East, that threaten over time to undermine these values and to erase the bonds of culture, faith and tradition that make us who we are. I am here today not just to visit an old ally, but to hold it up as an example for others who seek freedom and who wish to summon the courage and the will to defend our civilization." ~President Donald J Trump "...sometimes, you have to be a high-riding bitch to survive. Sometimes, being a bitch is all a woman has to hang onto." ~Vera Donovan "Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man-and give some back." ~Al Swearengen "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." ~Mattis |
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| Bridge of Sighs
(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States01/03/2016 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) The King James Version of the Bible. Matthew and Mark. 2) My source who cannot be disclosed yet. A doctorate degreed individual. 3) Professor Gualberto Zapata Alonzo version. I have not vetted him yet. The version of Naga I am referring to came from India. This is now spinning my head a bit more than I anticipated. Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 06/10/2016 06:30 PM "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
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| PanosGR
User ID: 71093603 Greece01/03/2016 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My question is that in this thread here ( Thread: Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? ) says that “The Aramaic word Eli means My God”. Are you sure that these words never existed in (Greek I know they didn’t) but in Hebrew or Aramaic, Last Edited by PanosGR on 01/03/2016 06:11 PM |
| Bridge of Sighs
(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States01/03/2016 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer: Prehistoric Mayan or Naga. There the words were, as large as life: Quoting: Bridge of Sighs "Heli, heli, lamat sabac ta ni" means "I am fainting, I am fainting, darkness is overcoming me." I will stop here and let this soak in. I did find where the missing years of Jesus story from Luke 2:41 to Luke 3:23. From age 12-30 are missing from the Bible. Only about 55 days of his life are accounted for in the Bible. The is a prehistoric town called Adjudia in Northern India.... So you think this all happened in India? I feel like there was an impostor years later after Jesus ascended to heaven. Jesus was real, and he traveled to India at an early age. The locals know the legends. I think it was there he learned this language. I found that Jesus attended a Nacaal Temple in Adjudia. (Pre Brahman India) Graduates were called "Son of God". The legend is suppose to still be there. I have a friend in India searching soon. I will post more of this fascinating story. "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
| Bridge of Sighs
(OP) User ID: 1347659 United States01/03/2016 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My question is that in this thread here ( Thread: Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? Quoting: PanosGR ) says that “The Aramaic word Eli means My God”. Are you sure that these words never existed in (Greek I know they didn’t) but in Hebrew or Aramaic, The Hebrews "added" it later to their language. At the time, it did not exist. Yes, it did not exist in their time for that area. Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 01/03/2016 06:14 PM "The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty" |
| PanosGR
User ID: 71093603 Greece01/03/2016 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My question is that in this thread here ( Thread: Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? Quoting: PanosGR ) says that “The Aramaic word Eli means My God”. Are you sure that these words never existed in (Greek I know they didn’t) but in Hebrew or Aramaic, The Hebrews "added" it later to their language. At the time, it did not exist. So to get this straight. There was not a word such “Eli” in Aramaic |
