Vitamin D3, Melatonin, 5-htp, NAC, Tyrosin ... experiences and dosage

Nac chelates heavy metals. I suffered mercury poisoning from tooth fillings. Migranes were related. Milk and gluten make the stomac walls permeable making the heavy metals to go into the blood streem.


If you are experiencing with garlic that is because it works as nac.


But consider thar almost all product containing nac also contain artificial sweaters...you may have reaction to that too

No. Just crappy science by idiots.

We used to start off with 200 IU a day for EVERYONE plus that idiotic sun scare.

Vitamin D has no serious issues on the liver. 5,000 IU is much better for the liver than at current RDI of 600 IU a day...

Vitamin D deficiency has always been an issue forever. Somebody screwed up in the studies over the amount that we really needed and apparently others just accepted it.

During flu season I take 15000 iu D3 daily. I haven't been sick in years. During the summer I lower that to 5000iu because I get a lot of sun and the body converts it naturally.

Do not take melatonin for more than 3 consecutive weeks. Your body will stop producing it naturally if you do and then you will be dependent on it for the rest of your life.

You don't need to take any 5htp if you eat right.

Read this book:

The Miraculous Results Of Extremely High Doses Of The Sunshine Hormone Vitamin D3 My Experiment With Huge Doses Of D3 From 25,000 To 50,000 To 100,000 Iu A Day Over A 1 Year Period

[link to www.amazon.com]

Make sure you read some of the comments on Amazon.

LOL, there is a different kind of hair loss that prevents it from growing back. Luckily mine grew back! I used to lose 3 large clumps in the shower, now it's just a tiny clump. But I run my fingers through it so whatever is going to fall out will be in the shower instead of around my house. That's the worst, finding clumps of hair piled in a corner on a wood floor, usually behind doors.

I was also out in the sun everyday for an hour without sunscreen when I was taking those high doses, I was just really scared. My main issue with the low d was just my hair falling out and after years of what I experienced, I just wanted my level up fast.

What do you think of tanning beds? I'm confused about what I have read. Some things make me believe it helps with the D and other things that it doesn't. I used tanning beds in the 90's and never had an issue then, my d problems started after my 2nd child but it was even worse after my 3rd. I read pregnancy can deplete it too. People say the hair shedding is normal after that but mine just never stopped.

K is in vegetables but not as K-2. I think I read pepperoni has k-2 in it, I don't understand how it can be in a meat and vegetable. I was eating pepperoni while I sat in the sun.

Sunscreens, sunglasses, more than 70% of our bodies are covered in the sun. Most supplements have only 600 iu in them and some people may not even take multi vitamins and consider getting it from orange juice or milk. Salmon, unless it's wild caught and very expensive won't have any in it. Tuna and sardines do but a small percentage of the 600 iu daily allowance. That's what it's based on in our foods.

This is all in my opinion and I'm not in any way a medical person or selling anything

I like a Piracetam Centrophenoxine Vinpocetine stack first thing in the morning. At the same time I take my BP combo with is Omega 3, Q10 and two BP herbal products that contain cayenne. No not that expensive stuff in the radio commercial.

I also add a great multi vitamin mineral supplement and dyprenyl which is an anti aging drug. Along with Iodoral iodine iodide supplement.

BTW 5-htp is fine from what Ive read but its like firing on one cylinder. The Piracetam Centrophenoxine Vinpocetine stack addresses all the brain chemistry issues for balance and preventing stress and anxiety.

Do some more research on all four.

As for D3 from what I recall it requires k2 menaquinone to be effective. I use lef.org super booster with k2 complex which contain several forms of K2.

[link to www.lef.org]

As for melatonin I am an avid user of it. I use both a large dose melatonin and a time released melatonin

As far as I'm concerned I think the elderly should also use such supplements and keep away from prescription anti anxiety, anti depression and sleeping pills.

Its anecdotal evidence but every elderly person that I ever knew that took that Rx for anxiety depression and sleep turned into a vegetable.

As for younger people, from personal experience, I wish I knew about these things when I was younger because I would have had many fewer work stress induced "beer-thirties". Which of course is a method of shutting down those parts of the brain that are under stress and causing anxiety. In the long run it doesn't help and only makes the fight flight brain chemistry more unbalanced and more prone to stress.

As for sleep I have found the best way to totally clear the mind and fall asleep is to be in a dark room and concentrate at just looking at the pitch black. Nothing outs you to sleep like seeing nothing! lol

Yeah, tanning booth is fine as long as they have the right kind of bulbs that produces UVB light for the skin to absorb and produce vitamin D. Some tanning booths do not have those bulbs. I've read that you want a booth with low ballast bulb type.

Yeah, you're supposed to take vitamin D supplement when pregnant and lactating as well. I read that you'd have to take over 6,000 IU a day to be able to produce vitamin D rich breast milk.

Oh, where do you live? Apparently living in a large city can block UVB sunlight from reaching you because of dirty air pollution. I don't know how much of UVB that actually get to you.

GABA, 5-HTP, Melatonin make for a great night of sleep.

I take 5,000 IU of vitamin D3 every day, with Vitamin MK-7 (the best variant of Vitamin K2 available), along with a good multivitamin.

My D3 levels were so low I was PRESCRIBED (by the nurse practitioner) to take 50,000 units of D3 a day for 6 months -then lower to 20,000 a day for 6 more months and get a test to see if I could get away with 10,000 a day.

5-htp gives me diarhhea

Meat contains K, livers contain more. Fermented foods such as cottage cheese and hard cheddars contain good quantities of K. Also the yolk of eggs and some green veggies, brussels sprouts, broccoli, kale are a few.
I take D 5000 in the winter, helps with my seasonal depression. Getting my K through my low carb, medium protein, higher fat diet.

Feeling pretty good other than wishing I could move back to Florida.

I'm taking 50,000 units per week

Similar topic with some interesting advice.

Thread: Natural ways to battle depression.

Someone here using SAM-E ?

Think I'll make a list as a little overview.

Last Edited by A r c on 02/03/2015 06:32 PM

Fucking jerks...

As far as I can see, they got the high dosed Vit D3 from the stores... they did the same with Melatonin.

Kiddin me?

Everything I figure that works, they seem to erase.

Germany sucks big time, let me say that.

Last Edited by A r c on 02/03/2015 06:46 PM

Thanks AA, makes sense.

Thanks,

My mother who has had cancer twice says vitamin D3 gives her headaches and occasionally stomach aches.

Probably means it's working and she needs to stick with it. Like people who are "allergic" to fruits or veggies. The "allergy" I've heard is the side effect of the body being detoxed.

She also claims to suffer from depression which may just be unmanageable anxiety.

She needs to read some of this stuff.

I'd tell ya to come over to NY but we're about to suck big time here

Maybe closer to the equator is better...need to get HIGH on Vit D3 too

Taking 5000...sometimes I double it during this frozen time of the year.

I never had melatonin before but I put 2-3 drops of lavender oil on my pillow on the nights I'm stressed and have trouble sleeping. It leaves me comatose lol. So lately my pillow is drenched with the sweet smell that takes me to la la land almost every night :)

La La Land...that's the ticket

I use Natrol's 10,000 UI Vitamin D, no more than 5 days a week. I always feel better when I do. You don't notice until you stop for a bit.

Great and interesting thread!

I take 5000 IU of Vitamin D with a good multivitamin in addition to some other herbs and vitamins. Will definitely take a look into the K2. I hadn't heard about that being needed with D.

I would also guess that more people are inside a majority of the time now. Office jobs...tv...

This might be TMI, but it may help someone as well...

I suffered from E.D. for years. Killed my marriage. For reasons unrelated to that issue, a month ago I started taking about 20,000+ IU of D3 every day and the first thing I noticed, after about 2 weeks, is I was waking up several times a night with erections. That hasnt happened in DECADES. My sex life has returned to that of an 18 year old. My results are similar or even better than the Cialis my doctor was giving me.

I had never heard of this before and googled it. Its true. Low D3 causes issues with the arteries walls that supply blood to the ..... I had no idea. I stumbled upon this by accident, was taking it for depression.

I bought the 5,000 IU drops from The Vitamin Shoppe, which is 5 drops per day at 1,000 IU per drop BUT I was taking MUCH more than that, maybe half the dropper every day.

May or may not work for others. but I am STUNNED at what I am waking up to several times a night, lol.

Vitamin K works with Vitamin A and D to move calcium from the blood to the bones. Americans have a vitamin K deficiency.. not a calcium deficiency.

If you take NAC you should also take vitamin C.. google it.

GABA is what puts you to sleep.. Russian made a GABA derivative called Phenibut.. given to Cosmonauts and Astronauts now.. available online.

1/8 rounded teaspoon puts me to sleep for 8 hours solid.. 1/4 teaspoon put me to sleep for 12 hours. Only take 1-2 times a week.. it will help train you to sleep better.

1. Is there any evidence for this? Has anyone actually observed it? i.e. complete shutdown for life? Unlikely. Endocrine glands don't usually work that way. They might get suppressed for a time, but they come back.

2. Even if true, who cares? Melatonin has such vast benefits that you would be a fool NOT to take it...

In large doses, melatonin is a GREAT immune-boosting, anti-cancer, antioxidant, neuroprotective and anti-neurodegenerative, mitochondrial-regenerative, etc., compound. Small doses are useful for sleep and to fool with circadian rhythms; large doses are for living a long time with less or no degeneration or cancer.

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NEUROPROTECTION, BRAIN AGING:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
J Pineal Res. 1995 Sep;19(2):57-63.
Cell protective role of melatonin in the brain.

[link to www.annalsnyas.org]
Ann. N.Y. Acad. Sci. 1035: 197-215 (2004)
Retardation of Brain Aging by Chronic Treatment with Melatonin

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
Horm Behav. 2012 Feb 25
Melatonin and mitochondrial dysfunction in the central nervous system.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
Int J Alzheimers Dis. 2011;2011:326320. Epub 2011 May 4.
Melatonin in mitochondrial dysfunction and related disorders.

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ANTI-CANCER:

High doses versus cancer (prevention and treatment):
[link to www.mdpi.com]
Int. J. Mol. Sci. 2013, 14(2), 2410-2430; doi:10.3390/ijms14022410
Melatonin Anticancer Effects: Review
-- prevention: 5-10 mgs/day
-- treatment: 20-100 mgs/day ... best used in conjunction with vitamin E, C, D3 and A (retinoids)

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IMMUNE BOOSTER:

Melatonin is the cheapest, safest, best-documented immune booster in existence:
[link to www.quora.com (secure)]

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BALANCE WITH VITAMIN D:

If you're going to take a lot of melatonin -- the "hormone of darkness" -- balance it with adequate vitamin D -- the "hormone of light":
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
The endocrinology of sunlight and darkness. Complementary roles of vitamin D and pineal hormones.

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PLUS: HOT OFF THE PRESSES, January 2015:

[link to books.google.com (secure)]
Melatonin: Therapeutic Value and Neuroprotection
CRC Press, Jan 9, 2015 - Medical - 573 pages

ABBREVIATED TABLE OF CONTENTS: KEY POINTS:
Melatonin: Beneficial Effects in Metabolic Syndrome - pg29
Melatonin: Neuroprotection in Perinatal Hypoxia/Ischemia - pg59
Melatonin as a Therapeutic Agent for Sepsis - pg71
Melatonins Cardioprotective Role - pg89
Melatonin Therapeutic Value and Neuroprotection in Stroke - pg97
Melatonin: Hepatoprotective Actions - pg143
Melatonin Regulates Adult Hippocampal Neurogenesis - pg167
Melatonins Neuroprotective Role in Parkinsons Disease - pg189
Neuroprotective Role of Melatonin in Glaucoma - pg203
Melatonin Receptors: Cancer Prevention - pg223
Melatonin Analogues in Glaucoma - pg269
Melatonergic Drugs for Insomnia and Depressive Disorders - pg289
Melatonergic Agomelatine in Depressive and Anxiety Disorders - pg325
Melatonin/Melatonergics in Models of Alzheimers Disease - pg339
Melatonins Mitochondrial Protective Role in Alzheimers - pg353
Melatonin & Injuries of the Developing Brain and Retina - pg375
Melatonin versus Human Prion Mediated Neurotoxicity - pg389
Melatonin Protection against Methamphetamine Toxicity - pg397
Melatonin Protects Dopamine Neurons in Parkinsons Disease - pg409
Antiepileptic Effects of Melatonin - pg421
Analgesic Effects of Melatonin - pg431
Role of Melatonin in Collagen Synthesis - pg447
Melatonin Use in Peripheral Nerve Injury - pg457
Neuroprotection by Melatonin against Dexamethasone Neurotox - pg463
Melatonin versus Nonsteroidal AntiInflammatory Side Effect? - pg469
Melatonin versus Radiation Induced Nephrotoxicity - pg493
Melatonin and Familial Mediterranean Fever - pg499
Effects of Melatonin on Osteoblasts/Osteoclasts in Bone - pg505