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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64922289 United Kingdom 11/10/2014 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | News are coming in from all of Moscow of a nauseating Hydrogen Sulfide smell. Possible spillage from the Moscow Oil Processing Plant in Kapotnya District. Experts are looking for the cause of this pillage and smell. Quoting: Snuffielover Wonderful and useless advice to "Open Windows Wide to air out your room." heard on the radio right now. I'd say tape the windows and airways shut and turn on the car air-re-circulation for those caught in the evening traffic jams. Another update coming in just now is that the gas spillage comes from the Ljublino District. Information keeps getting updated rapidly. The winds are Southerly today, and this huge pollution cloud will probably spread itself over my town pretty soon. Here is the only news item I could find of this. [link to www.m24.ru] The Experts are still uncertain where exactly this spillage came from. I remind you that Hydrogen Sulfide is a Class 4 Health Hazard with even short exposures being deadly. Update. The concentrations of Styrene and Formaldehyde have been double, or five times the safe values from early night tonight in several of Moscow's regions. Not very healthy either. What are your thoughts abut this whole situation? The EMERCOM of Russia is currently telling Moscow's populace that "it is not dangerous. Please be calm." When such an event has not been heard of here in Moscow for at least ten years. Darn Government Officials. This horrible smell has now wafted over our town as I predicted. This unmistakable smell of rotten eggs is spreading wider still. Might be this high pressure ridge enchanting the Iceland's Volcano SO2 releases perhaps? Still a mystery to where the source comes from! Thanks to Dangerwalt for finding this video of the event. Notice how 10-14 story apartment buildings were all covered in this dense and dangerous fog. Hello! As you know I have been working with Luis on the Iceland Volcano thread for the past two months and wanted to share this info with you as it might help. The owners of the Refinery in Moscow have denied any leak, so I looked at the NASA So2 website and found out that there is a large amount of So2 directly over the Moscow area. I monitor this site daily as the Iceland rift fissure is emitting an average of 35 thousand tons of So2 per day into the troposphere. Here is the link and if you change the date at the bottom of the page to 11-10-2014, you will see the large red marking directly over Moscow. Here is the NASA link: [link to earthdata.nasa.gov (secure)] Yes, it all seems too coincidental going by the NASA data! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1738000 Canada 11/10/2014 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, a minor power outage here. Probably the nearby construction site bothering the 6KV cables again. Took the off time to go and check up on my kitties. They seem very sleepy, as does my sick relative. Quoting: Snuffielover Is drowsiness part of stress, or Sulfur poisoning I wonder? Perhaps I am imagining things, I would think they would sound the alarms if it was really serious by now. Meanwhile our news "City FM" reported that "RosHydroMet", our MetOffice had stated that this sulfur smell will linger above Moscow until the end of Tuesday. News are coming in that our consumer protection ministry / agency has started a civil case from the fact of this "spillage". Poor Muscovites, we could really use your warm thoughts now. [link to www.themoscowtimes.com] More at linky.. well under 50% Quoting: The Pissed Cat Russian emergency services on Monday warned Muscovites to stay indoors and seal off access to fresh air amid reports of toxic chemical fumes permeating the city. Air in southwestern Moscow contained 2.5 times the maximum permissible levels of styrene, a toxic and mutagenic chemical used for polymer production, according to city-run environmental monitoring watchdog Mosekomonitoring. A strong smell of hydrogen sulfide was also reported citywide, including at The Moscow Times headquarters at Marina Roshcha. The substance has an aroma reminiscent of rotting eggs. "Head hurts, feel sick, eyes watering," Natalia Kim, a resident of the styrene-hit Kozhukhovo district, wrote on Facebook. The sulfides concentration is ten times above nominal "safe" values now. First it was nothing, then they said "minor values above normal", then "twice the normal amounts" and now the Sulfur values are ten times larger! Along with the carcino-/muta-genic Styrene and Formaldehyde. Something must have gone really FUBAR for those to be detected I think. This "City FM" had a journalist smelling the air outside the Refinery. When they really should save the scrubber logs now, to prevent tampering. Keep in mind that the gas plume from the Refinery pipes will fall down away from the spillage site itself. OP, for the love of God, you are DYING! Get out of the area and keep driving for another 100 miles or more. You have no idea what caused this, you assume it will get better. That is a recipe for disaster. Your cats will be dead tonight. You may or may not make it to morning, assuming it doesn't get worse. If a big wave comes you may die in minutes. Do not listen to public radio or government bullshit artists. They do not want panic. They will lie to the end. They will keep lying from remote radio stations until the last moscovite is laying dead in their tiny apartment. Intelligent and experienced people with hazmat training are begging you to leave. You must make your own choices here. If you don't own a car then get on a train. Get going.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64984676 United Kingdom 11/10/2014 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as per MM on the Barda thread Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64984676 open this and set to today, November 10.. [link to earthdata.nasa.gov (secure)] then open this gif, of that link screen capped, overlaid with a map showing Moscow.. [link to cdn.makeagif.com] put the cursor on Moscow as it blinks back and fore notice anything? Has anyone noticed how much we have over the North Sea UK? yeah but it's well up in the highest parts of the lower atmosphere the reason Moscow is getting it is the high pressure funnelling it down we'll get it once a high pressure comes over us get masks! |
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User ID: 65008049 Germany 11/10/2014 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thing that might help: crank up your heat. Hot air expands, so that'll help keep positive air pressure inside, so outdoor air won't get in as easily. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969668 I also read sth that you should try to produce water vapor. Here's an article about what the Icelanders (can) do. [link to www.bloomberg.com] The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”. |
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User ID: 28167778 United States 11/10/2014 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, a minor power outage here. Probably the nearby construction site bothering the 6KV cables again. Took the off time to go and check up on my kitties. They seem very sleepy, as does my sick relative. Quoting: Snuffielover Is drowsiness part of stress, or Sulfur poisoning I wonder? Perhaps I am imagining things, I would think they would sound the alarms if it was really serious by now. Meanwhile our news "City FM" reported that "RosHydroMet", our MetOffice had stated that this sulfur smell will linger above Moscow until the end of Tuesday. News are coming in that our consumer protection ministry / agency has started a civil case from the fact of this "spillage". Poor Muscovites, we could really use your warm thoughts now. [link to www.themoscowtimes.com] More at linky.. well under 50% Quoting: The Pissed Cat Russian emergency services on Monday warned Muscovites to stay indoors and seal off access to fresh air amid reports of toxic chemical fumes permeating the city. Air in southwestern Moscow contained 2.5 times the maximum permissible levels of styrene, a toxic and mutagenic chemical used for polymer production, according to city-run environmental monitoring watchdog Mosekomonitoring. A strong smell of hydrogen sulfide was also reported citywide, including at The Moscow Times headquarters at Marina Roshcha. The substance has an aroma reminiscent of rotting eggs. "Head hurts, feel sick, eyes watering," Natalia Kim, a resident of the styrene-hit Kozhukhovo district, wrote on Facebook. The sulfides concentration is ten times above nominal "safe" values now. First it was nothing, then they said "minor values above normal", then "twice the normal amounts" and now the Sulfur values are ten times larger! Along with the carcino-/muta-genic Styrene and Formaldehyde. Something must have gone really FUBAR for those to be detected I think. This "City FM" had a journalist smelling the air outside the Refinery. When they really should save the scrubber logs now, to prevent tampering. Keep in mind that the gas plume from the Refinery pipes will fall down away from the spillage site itself. OP, for the love of God, you are DYING! Get out of the area and keep driving for another 100 miles or more. You have no idea what caused this, you assume it will get better. That is a recipe for disaster. Your cats will be dead tonight. You may or may not make it to morning, assuming it doesn't get worse. If a big wave comes you may die in minutes. Do not listen to public radio or government bullshit artists. They do not want panic. They will lie to the end. They will keep lying from remote radio stations until the last moscovite is laying dead in their tiny apartment. Intelligent and experienced people with hazmat training are begging you to leave. You must make your own choices here. If you don't own a car then get on a train. Get going.... strong words, I fear you are right. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52819382 United States 11/10/2014 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, for the love of God, you are DYING! Quoting: Wordhole Get out of the area and keep driving for another 100 miles or more. You have no idea what caused this, you assume it will get better. That is a recipe for disaster. Your cats will be dead tonight. You may or may not make it to morning, assuming it doesn't get worse. If a big wave comes you may die in minutes. Do not listen to public radio or government bullshit artists. They do not want panic. They will lie to the end. They will keep lying from remote radio stations until the last moscovite is laying dead in their tiny apartment. Intelligent and experienced people with hazmat training are begging you to leave. You must make your own choices here. If you don't own a car then get on a train. Get going.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64984676 United Kingdom 11/10/2014 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thing that might help: crank up your heat. Hot air expands, so that'll help keep positive air pressure inside, so outdoor air won't get in as easily. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969668 yeah but when the whole atmosphere is poison, all you're doing is using up the good air inside, which will be slowly replaced by the bad air outside i'm wondering about fans with bicarbonate of soda and water soaked towels draped behind them?(or is it in front of them?) don't they do that in Hawaii when the vog gets bad? |
Gefreiter User ID: 65012328 Romania 11/10/2014 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | H2S in low concentration has the smell of rotten eggs. The high concentration paralyzes the sense of smell and can not be detected by humans. Depending on the concentration and duration of exposure can cause acute or chronic effects. At concentrations above 0.1% can kill in seconds. |
Snuffielover
(OP) User ID: 64988567 Russia 11/10/2014 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found this real time chart of the air pollution measuring stations in Moscow. The symbols are clickable. [link to www.mosecom.ru] Most stations show an empty SO2 bar. So the data seems a little bit corrupted, I've seen one of those stations. It was a tall metal mast with sensors up and down its length near a busy highway. Perhaps they will tell someone something? I've clicked on a few random ones and the plots show 0.7-1.5 times the normal amount of pollution. Just noticed that the plots end at around 1300 MSK today. The 2100 measurement hasn't been input into the system yet. Last Edited by Snuffielover on 11/10/2014 01:58 PM If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10263232 Canada 11/10/2014 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work in the oil sands and carry a personal H2S below my chin all day at work. If you can smell the Hydrogen Sulphide that's a good thing. It's when you can't smell it anymore is when it's bad! Quoting: Edgenation Thank you for the reply. Do you actually carry that gas as an indicator with you? Or was it a gas detector? I am very worried about the air quality of our city, especially since I can't remember last time we had such a scent here. So many ill and old people in town who I am very worried about right now. They are now recommending filtrating masks, or a wet cloth if one is to leave their home. Shelter in home declared in all of Moscow. At least until tomorrow, the high pressure ridge will get stronger at night. We might get some rain tomorrow, that will remove the bad pollution from our air. Update. Now Zelenograd is reporting this sulphury smell. To the point of discomfort in the pulmonary system. Still a mystery what could have "farted" so loudly. This is a very good event from one point though. All the 20+ million people in Moscow noticed and got their heads up from tablets and phones. Kind of a unifying experience. H2s monitors at least are around $300 in canada for a lower end one, i have personally used $800 monitors that also detect Co2,So2,oxy, and H2s. i recommend leaving the area immediatly if it is H2s or at the VERY least get as elevated as you can as H2S is heavier then air. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52819382 United States 11/10/2014 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found this real time chart of the air pollution measuring stations in Moscow. The symbols are clickable. [link to www.mosecom.ru] Most stations show an empty SO2 bar. So the data seems a little bit corrupted, I've seen one of those stations. It was a tall metal mast with sensors up and down its length near a busy highway. Perhaps they will tell someone something? I've clicked on a few random ones and the plots show 0.7-1.5 times the normal amount of pollution. Quoting: Snuffielover Can you smell it OP? If so, are you packing? |
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(OP) User ID: 64988567 Russia 11/10/2014 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found this real time chart of the air pollution measuring stations in Moscow. The symbols are clickable. [link to www.mosecom.ru] Most stations show an empty SO2 bar. So the data seems a little bit corrupted, I've seen one of those stations. It was a tall metal mast with sensors up and down its length near a busy highway. Perhaps they will tell someone something? I've clicked on a few random ones and the plots show 0.7-1.5 times the normal amount of pollution. Quoting: Snuffielover Can you smell it OP? If so, are you packing? I cannot smell it anymore, not packing yet. The Officials are now stating that the Refinery scrubber was out of commission and could not have broken down. They are now checking other industrial areas using Sulfur in their process. Darn this (mis)information! Even I am getting confused to what really happened. If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15969668 United States 11/10/2014 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lead acetate tape may help detect if matter (as opposed to air) has been contaminated by hydrogen sulfide. It'll change color if there's H2S present. Gas detectors won't detect that. You can use that to test your water too. Hydrogen sulfide IS water-soluble, so it's in that fog (water vapor) and it may contaminate the municipal water supply too. On the plus side, it's so reactive with so many things that it doesn't tend to hang around very long, especially in big cities, which naturally produce a lot of ozone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1738000 Canada 11/10/2014 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thing that might help: crank up your heat. Hot air expands, so that'll help keep positive air pressure inside, so outdoor air won't get in as easily. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969668 yeah but when the whole atmosphere is poison, all you're doing is using up the good air inside, which will be slowly replaced by the bad air outside i'm wondering about fans with bicarbonate of soda and water soaked towels draped behind them?(or is it in front of them?) don't they do that in Hawaii when the vog gets bad? NO NO NO None of this crap will help you. You must evacuate. Incorrect information will get people killed. No gadgetry or masks or high room temp or ozone generators or fans or putting a dollar under the pillow for the tooth fairy will save you. You must evacuate or die. A low concentration over a long time of say 12 hours can KILL ! A big concentration will make you dead before you hit the ground. You have no idea what the parts per million is. You don't even know what the damn chemical or gas is. You don't know how "sour" anything is. You have absolutely zero information and you are making life or death decisions. Always error on the side of caution. I will be the GLP Safety Officer here. I am hereby ordering OP to evacuate. |
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User ID: 53190917 United States 11/10/2014 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thing that might help: crank up your heat. Hot air expands, so that'll help keep positive air pressure inside, so outdoor air won't get in as easily. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15969668 yeah but when the whole atmosphere is poison, all you're doing is using up the good air inside, which will be slowly replaced by the bad air outside i'm wondering about fans with bicarbonate of soda and water soaked towels draped behind them?(or is it in front of them?) don't they do that in Hawaii when the vog gets bad? NO NO NO None of this crap will help you. You must evacuate. Incorrect information will get people killed. No gadgetry or masks or high room temp or ozone generators or fans or putting a dollar under the pillow for the tooth fairy will save you. You must evacuate or die. A low concentration over a long time of say 12 hours can KILL ! A big concentration will make you dead before you hit the ground. You have no idea what the parts per million is. You don't even know what the damn chemical or gas is. You don't know how "sour" anything is. You have absolutely zero information and you are making life or death decisions. Always error on the side of caution. I will be the GLP Safety Officer here. I am hereby ordering OP to evacuate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56826360 United States 11/10/2014 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, a minor power outage here. Probably the nearby construction site bothering the 6KV cables again. Took the off time to go and check up on my kitties. They seem very sleepy, as does my sick relative. Quoting: Snuffielover Is drowsiness part of stress, or Sulfur poisoning I wonder? Perhaps I am imagining things, I would think they would sound the alarms if it was really serious by now. Meanwhile our news "City FM" reported that "RosHydroMet", our MetOffice had stated that this sulfur smell will linger above Moscow until the end of Tuesday. News are coming in that our consumer protection ministry / agency has started a civil case from the fact of this "spillage". Poor Muscovites, we could really use your warm thoughts now. [link to www.themoscowtimes.com] More at linky.. well under 50% Quoting: The Pissed Cat Russian emergency services on Monday warned Muscovites to stay indoors and seal off access to fresh air amid reports of toxic chemical fumes permeating the city. Air in southwestern Moscow contained 2.5 times the maximum permissible levels of styrene, a toxic and mutagenic chemical used for polymer production, according to city-run environmental monitoring watchdog Mosekomonitoring. A strong smell of hydrogen sulfide was also reported citywide, including at The Moscow Times headquarters at Marina Roshcha. The substance has an aroma reminiscent of rotting eggs. "Head hurts, feel sick, eyes watering," Natalia Kim, a resident of the styrene-hit Kozhukhovo district, wrote on Facebook. The sulfides concentration is ten times above nominal "safe" values now. First it was nothing, then they said "minor values above normal", then "twice the normal amounts" and now the Sulfur values are ten times larger! Along with the carcino-/muta-genic Styrene and Formaldehyde. Something must have gone really FUBAR for those to be detected I think. This "City FM" had a journalist smelling the air outside the Refinery. When they really should save the scrubber logs now, to prevent tampering. Keep in mind that the gas plume from the Refinery pipes will fall down away from the spillage site itself. OP, for the love of God, you are DYING! Get out of the area and keep driving for another 100 miles or more. You have no idea what caused this, you assume it will get better. That is a recipe for disaster. Your cats will be dead tonight. You may or may not make it to morning, assuming it doesn't get worse. If a big wave comes you may die in minutes. Do not listen to public radio or government bullshit artists. They do not want panic. They will lie to the end. They will keep lying from remote radio stations until the last moscovite is laying dead in their tiny apartment. Intelligent and experienced people with hazmat training are begging you to leave. You must make your own choices here. If you don't own a car then get on a train. Get going.... You assume it will get worse. |
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(OP) User ID: 64988567 Russia 11/10/2014 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ladies and Gentlemen, if this is Barda running won't save us. If this is a single release then it will blow over until tomorrow. Either way it's a pleasure of spending time informing you, instead of turning tail. I will be alright, I know it. The mobile station in Khovrino, North in Moscow is showing a doubling of some pollutant. Quite a noticeable spike. But again, only for 1300 MSK time. [link to www.mosecom.ru] Darn! MADI is showing a tripling of either NO2, or SO2, hard to tell on the small color helper. [link to www.picshare.ru] Last Edited by Snuffielover on 11/10/2014 02:21 PM If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1738000 Canada 11/10/2014 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, a minor power outage here. Probably the nearby construction site bothering the 6KV cables again. Took the off time to go and check up on my kitties. They seem very sleepy, as does my sick relative. Quoting: Snuffielover Is drowsiness part of stress, or Sulfur poisoning I wonder? Perhaps I am imagining things, I would think they would sound the alarms if it was really serious by now. Meanwhile our news "City FM" reported that "RosHydroMet", our MetOffice had stated that this sulfur smell will linger above Moscow until the end of Tuesday. News are coming in that our consumer protection ministry / agency has started a civil case from the fact of this "spillage". Poor Muscovites, we could really use your warm thoughts now. [link to www.themoscowtimes.com] More at linky.. well under 50% Quoting: The Pissed Cat Russian emergency services on Monday warned Muscovites to stay indoors and seal off access to fresh air amid reports of toxic chemical fumes permeating the city. Air in southwestern Moscow contained 2.5 times the maximum permissible levels of styrene, a toxic and mutagenic chemical used for polymer production, according to city-run environmental monitoring watchdog Mosekomonitoring. A strong smell of hydrogen sulfide was also reported citywide, including at The Moscow Times headquarters at Marina Roshcha. The substance has an aroma reminiscent of rotting eggs. "Head hurts, feel sick, eyes watering," Natalia Kim, a resident of the styrene-hit Kozhukhovo district, wrote on Facebook. The sulfides concentration is ten times above nominal "safe" values now. First it was nothing, then they said "minor values above normal", then "twice the normal amounts" and now the Sulfur values are ten times larger! Along with the carcino-/muta-genic Styrene and Formaldehyde. Something must have gone really FUBAR for those to be detected I think. This "City FM" had a journalist smelling the air outside the Refinery. When they really should save the scrubber logs now, to prevent tampering. Keep in mind that the gas plume from the Refinery pipes will fall down away from the spillage site itself. OP, for the love of God, you are DYING! Get out of the area and keep driving for another 100 miles or more. You have no idea what caused this, you assume it will get better. That is a recipe for disaster. Your cats will be dead tonight. You may or may not make it to morning, assuming it doesn't get worse. If a big wave comes you may die in minutes. Do not listen to public radio or government bullshit artists. They do not want panic. They will lie to the end. They will keep lying from remote radio stations until the last moscovite is laying dead in their tiny apartment. Intelligent and experienced people with hazmat training are begging you to leave. You must make your own choices here. If you don't own a car then get on a train. Get going.... You assume it will get worse. You are correct. Clearly there is an out of control situation. You are in a toxic environment with no information. Whatever caused this could get worse. You have no idea what is going on. So always assume the worst case scenario. Assume the worst and make a plan based on what resources you have. The OP is probably a middle aged cat lady living in a small apartment. She has no hazmat training or gear or test equipment. But her brains tell her something bad is happening but she believes the radio and doesn't want to spend her last rubies buying a train ticket. She comes to GLP for real advice. Well this is it. Us morans need to stick together and help. My advice for her is to evacuate. Maybe it does clear up. Maybe it doesn't. It's only your life at stake. That's a hell of a gamble. |
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(OP) User ID: 64988567 Russia 11/10/2014 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Middle-aged cat lady?! Sir! I am offended! I am a cat-man in my prime! :D :5a: The situation, both financial as well as in terms of transport here is quite lousy indeed. This is my choice though, to stay and help with reports! Though never faced with such a situation before I need to say we can't fear death all of our lives. At least I think I am doing something positive for you guys now. Yeah, sorry for the rant guys, I love you all! If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1738000 Canada 11/10/2014 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Middle-aged cat lady?! Sir! I am offended! I am a cat-man in my prime! :D :5a: Quoting: Snuffielover The situation, both financial as well as in terms of transport here is quite lousy indeed. This is my choice though, to stay and help with reports! Though never faced with such a situation before I need to say we can't fear death all of our lives. At least I think I am doing something positive for you guys now. Yeah, sorry for the rant guys, I love you all! Lol, my apologies OP. Well if your gonna go down with the ship, even after knowing the risks, then may The Lord save you. I would send you the price of a return train ticket myself if we could figure out a way. $20 Canadian dollars would probably get you to a far enough city. Just go on a nice two day train ride somewhere until things blow over. If anyone knows how I can get money to this Russian please let me know. |
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User ID: 28167778 United States 11/10/2014 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Middle-aged cat lady?! Sir! I am offended! I am a cat-man in my prime! :D :5a: Quoting: Snuffielover The situation, both financial as well as in terms of transport here is quite lousy indeed. This is my choice though, to stay and help with reports! Though never faced with such a situation before I need to say we can't fear death all of our lives. At least I think I am doing something positive for you guys now. Yeah, sorry for the rant guys, I love you all! this is utterly sad. I pray for protection for all of you, and I lived in Germany and spent some time in Poland decades ago, I know how it might not be possible to evacuate. but still, utterly sad. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32809996 United States 11/10/2014 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this confirmed as an industrial spill, or are there volcanoes nearby that you should be concerned about? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59245951 There are no volcanoes, which I am aware about around Moscow. The video above illustrates how smoggy that "release" was. To cover such a large area, I'd say the release was substantial. The main suspects are the Moscow Oil Refinery as well as the sewage aeration plant. About four thousand six hundred square kilometers(1892sq. miles) of urban + suburban land was covered judging by the huge response from the people reporting it from Zelenograd to Podolsk. According to this article [link to www.m24.ru] our EMERCOM services blame the Moscow Refinery, while the Refinery reports of "No noticeable Malfunctions". Please keep in mind our Government has lousy communication. I bet this surfaced after many people reported of an emergency gas dump at the plant. Which is rather hard to overlook if you ask me. Events such as this are usually hushed, if they haven't taken lives directly. I have no doubt the mortality rate will spike greatly after this spillage. As it did when we had the peatbog fires covering the area with smoke in 2010. Luckily the smell has subsided here, but I am getting a very annoying headache. What annoys me the most is the darn expert reply. Most of them gave contradicting advice. Such as open all windows and walk outside (into the cloud of deadly gas). That was the information for those first three hours, until I called the Moscow radio station and told them that windows should be barred up and cars should recycle their air in traffic jams. After that tons of people started to do that by the following people who called in from jams, reporting how the smell got into their cars even with ventilation shut off / recycling. The (my) word "recycling" was heard like a thousand times in the hours after I called. In the event of a large, deliberate gas attack Moscow is DooMed! And it will spread all over the region, with millions of casualties. At least by the current weak response I noticed today. Probably industrial. Russia mostly had an improving safety and pollution controls that were going to match Europe (Since Europe was assisting a lot on that front). Now with all these sanctions on Russia, safety critical devices can't be sold to Russia because it's high technology, and can't be sold to Russia. Now you're paying the consequences for this idiotic game our wonderful governments are playing with the cost of your lives. Most likely some plant tried some mickey mouse solution because they couldn't get any replacement parts and there you go. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32809996 United States 11/10/2014 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ladies and Gentlemen, if this is Barda running won't save us. If this is a single release then it will blow over until tomorrow. Either way it's a pleasure of spending time informing you, instead of turning tail. I will be alright, I know it. Quoting: Snuffielover The mobile station in Khovrino, North in Moscow is showing a doubling of some pollutant. Quite a noticeable spike. But again, only for 1300 MSK time. [link to www.mosecom.ru] Darn! MADI is showing a tripling of either NO2, or SO2, hard to tell on the small color helper. [link to www.picshare.ru] I would hop on a train and take a vacation for the day. |
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(OP) User ID: 64988567 Russia 11/10/2014 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this confirmed as an industrial spill, or are there volcanoes nearby that you should be concerned about? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59245951 There are no volcanoes, which I am aware about around Moscow. The video above illustrates how smoggy that "release" was. To cover such a large area, I'd say the release was substantial. The main suspects are the Moscow Oil Refinery as well as the sewage aeration plant. About four thousand six hundred square kilometers(1892sq. miles) of urban + suburban land was covered judging by the huge response from the people reporting it from Zelenograd to Podolsk. According to this article [link to www.m24.ru] our EMERCOM services blame the Moscow Refinery, while the Refinery reports of "No noticeable Malfunctions". Please keep in mind our Government has lousy communication. I bet this surfaced after many people reported of an emergency gas dump at the plant. Which is rather hard to overlook if you ask me. Events such as this are usually hushed, if they haven't taken lives directly. I have no doubt the mortality rate will spike greatly after this spillage. As it did when we had the peatbog fires covering the area with smoke in 2010. Luckily the smell has subsided here, but I am getting a very annoying headache. What annoys me the most is the darn expert reply. Most of them gave contradicting advice. Such as open all windows and walk outside (into the cloud of deadly gas). That was the information for those first three hours, until I called the Moscow radio station and told them that windows should be barred up and cars should recycle their air in traffic jams. After that tons of people started to do that by the following people who called in from jams, reporting how the smell got into their cars even with ventilation shut off / recycling. The (my) word "recycling" was heard like a thousand times in the hours after I called. In the event of a large, deliberate gas attack Moscow is DooMed! And it will spread all over the region, with millions of casualties. At least by the current weak response I noticed today. Probably industrial. Russia mostly had an improving safety and pollution controls that were going to match Europe (Since Europe was assisting a lot on that front). Now with all these sanctions on Russia, safety critical devices can't be sold to Russia because it's high technology, and can't be sold to Russia. Now you're paying the consequences for this idiotic game our wonderful governments are playing with the cost of your lives. Most likely some plant tried some mickey mouse solution because they couldn't get any replacement parts and there you go. A good question is why would that plant almost be in the middle of a multi-million city? Its placement is quite old, back when the USSR believed in self-sufficiency. Or at least not as much in long pipelines. Thus a huge Oil Refinery ended up where it's currently located. Then again, the confirmations and retractions of said confirmations considering the source of this pollution are coming in half-hourly now. Someone is doing what we call "Imitation of Vigorous Activity" here for the public, a nice facade. While I am sure deeper inside people are kicking ass to scramble and locate the source of the leak. Their tales of "Everything is under control. The leak is stopped." sound quite ridiculous to me. They haven't found the source yet! If things get worse now the final train from Moscow arrives around half one in the night at our local platform. I'll jump aboard, heading North. This whole ordeal makes me think of US documents discussing a Nuclear Strike and fallout on Russia / Moscow. Their casualty numbers are grossly under-calculated I realize now. If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |