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I am throwing this out there for thought and discussion. Has anyone had the experience where you have been discussing a topic - verbally - not something you have written an email about or Googled or used the computer on - and an AD comes up on Facebook that day (or maybe next day but usually same day) about the SAME TOPIC YOU HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING?

For example....you might be discussing something fairly unusual like....Filipino geneaology...and an ad will show up on Facebook for something directly related to that. And you only discussed it verbally with someone else in the house - NOT via the computer at all. Perhaps you've discussed something like oh....Smith Brothers cough drops (haven't seen them in an eon) and an ad will pop up on your Facebook that day for Smith Brothers.

I don't know how common this is and I don't see people discussing it but I wanted to raise the issue.

NOTICE YOUR FACEBOOK ADS IN THE FUTURE AND SEE IF THEY REFLECT ANY PRODUCTS OR TOPICS YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING RECENTLY.

My point? I think that they are actually listening to at least some of us via the computers and translating part of this information into advertising (that shows up on Facebook). We can guess where the rest goes. I don't know if Facebook has to be open for this to happen, or if it happens anyway. Now personally I NEVER use Facebook so I can't test it for myself. But I have been told this, so I figure you guys are a good test sample.

Be aware of your Facebook ads in the future and see if they reflect anything you've been discussing just verbally recently. this is NOT the same as Google ads that might reflect your email as they read all our emails anyway. This is LISTENING.

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yes and tracking eye movements with webcam.
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yes and tracking eye movements with webcam.
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I know people are thinking this is theoretically (or even practically) possible, but I'm saying that from what I am hearing....this is actually BEING DONE - the verbal listening and then posting ads to Facebook on the topic that was discussed. Apparently this has happened several times over the past year at least with unusual topics so it wouldn't just be a coincidence. I'm assuming it must happen to other people but they just don't pay attention.

Thanks for giving that info on the webcam too, I'm sure it's true.

Is there anyone out there who has had this experience with Facebook and the ads?
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I don't just want this thread to disappear before people get a chance to see it and consider it. And if you haven't seen it in the past - please take notice in the future and see if this happens to you.
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Well my webcam has been covered over with a corn plaster from the day I brought it, want get me that way. We do not talk that much in our house either, because when we do, most times ends up in a argument, so went get much off me that way either.
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Well my webcam has been covered over with a corn plaster from the day I brought it, want get me that way. We do not talk that much in our house either, because when we do, most times ends up in a argument, so went get much off me that way either.
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That's good, you're ahead of the game :) but I want to warn those who really think this is a load of malarkey...I'm afraid it's not. People really have to be careful about any devices with computer chips in them - not just computers themselves - as all of these things could have cameras or mics in them. The people in charge are simply insane and just collecting vast amounts of data....because they CAN.
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Facebook tracks everything you do on the web and they use that data for advertising among other things. you shouldnt be surprised you agreed to it in there terms and conditions.
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Facebook tracks everything you do on the web and they use that data for advertising among other things. you shouldnt be surprised you agreed to it in there terms and conditions.
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their...... sorry
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I think the spying systems are far more advanced than people realize. Yes, they CAN do all these things, and they'll be doing more in the future.

I would love to see services that come about where people can rremove chips or spying devices from these machines or we can figure out how to block them. We have an absolute right to privacy - only slaves have no privacy.
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I noticed this the other day, and went "WTH?".
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Facebook tracks everything you do on the web and they use that data for advertising among other things. you shouldnt be surprised you agreed to it in there terms and conditions.
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No....you don't understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that this is information that was NEVER PUT ON A COMPUTER either on Facebook or in Google or in an email or anything else. This is information that was obviously acquired through LISTENING THROUGH THE COMPUTER MIC and then putting the info through some process that creates ads on Facebook that relate directly to the topic that was being discussed.

This is NOT information that was openly written or shared on Facebook. These are private verbal conversations that are obviously being monitored for commercial (and I'm sure, other) purposes.
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with enough data you can eliminate choice. think about it.
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I noticed this the other day, and went "WTH?".
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Bless your heart, I KNEW someone else must be seeing this!!!!

Keep your eye on this with Facebook and see if it seems to be tracking VERBAL conversations you have - NOT WRITTEN STUFF ON THE COMPUTER (like emails and Google searches), and then putting up an ad that relates to it - perhaps pretty directly (i.e, BRAND NAMES).

Keep watching this and tell everyone you know that this might be a possibility and to keep an eye out for this. I know it sounds paranoid but the source that told me is impeccable and insists this has happened several times and about very specific things that could not possibly be coincidences.

I am just trying to see if anyone else has had this experience and to warn people.

Please share. And I love your posts, by the way, Ms. Superduper!!!
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Facebook tracks everything you do on the web and they use that data for advertising among other things. you shouldnt be surprised you agreed to it in there terms and conditions.
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No....you don't understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that this is information that was NEVER PUT ON A COMPUTER either on Facebook or in Google or in an email or anything else. This is information that was obviously acquired through LISTENING THROUGH THE COMPUTER MIC and then putting the info through some process that creates ads on Facebook that relate directly to the topic that was being discussed.

This is NOT information that was openly written or shared on Facebook. These are private verbal conversations that are obviously being monitored for commercial (and I'm sure, other) purposes.
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credit cards are also tied to it along with reward clubs. they have all the data they need on you and everyone. i know from experience. your life is predictable, they know exactly what you will do and how you will react. they know your thoughts and have chemically attached to your DNnnnnnnnnA
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I think people might notice this once in a while and think it's a coincidence....but I don't think it is. That's why I'm telling people to watch their Facebook ads.
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Facebook tracks everything you do on the web and they use that data for advertising among other things. you shouldnt be surprised you agreed to it in there terms and conditions.
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No....you don't understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that this is information that was NEVER PUT ON A COMPUTER either on Facebook or in Google or in an email or anything else. This is information that was obviously acquired through LISTENING THROUGH THE COMPUTER MIC and then putting the info through some process that creates ads on Facebook that relate directly to the topic that was being discussed.

This is NOT information that was openly written or shared on Facebook. These are private verbal conversations that are obviously being monitored for commercial (and I'm sure, other) purposes.
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credit cards are also tied to it along with reward clubs. they have all the data they need on you and everyone. i know from experience. your life is predictable, they know exactly what you will do and how you will react. they know your thoughts and have chemically attached to your DNnnnnnnnnA
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They may or may not have all of that, and I wouldn't be surprised. But I am focusing on whether we are being tracked through COMPUTER MICS that listen to, record and process, our private discussions in our homes, and then part of that process is to place ads on our Facebook for marketing.

Now I don't know if Facebook needs to be open on a computer that's on for this to occur, or just if the computer needs to be on, but I want to be clear:

THIS IS ABOUT YOU BEING LISTENED TO VIA YOUR COMPUTER'S MICROPHONE IN PRIVATE NON-COMPUTER CONVERSATIONS IN YOUR HOME.

I really doubt if anyone has agreed to this, or if most people even realize this might be possible. I want to raise awareness.
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Happens with Tv and radio too. I chalk that up to coincidence.

I do remember them talking about putting recievers in our TV's/cable boxes and chips in our products so they could see what we were buying and direct advertising to specific customers.

I truly believe this is happening NOW. Digital TV and required "boxes" to have access to television. plus, clearing up the airwaves for more important and nefarious signals.

Ebay tracks, google tracks, facebook and twitter track. tou can see it on the choices of ads they display. I am fairly certain that if they can gain access to your microphone then they will.
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Happens with Tv and radio too. I chalk that up to coincidence.

I do remember them talking about putting recievers in our TV's/cable boxes and chips in our products so they could see what we were buying and direct advertising to specific customers.

I truly believe this is happening NOW. Digital TV and required "boxes" to have access to television. plus, clearing up the airwaves for more important and nefarious signals.

Ebay tracks, google tracks, facebook and twitter track. tou can see it on the choices of ads they display. I am fairly certain that if they can gain access to your microphone then they will.
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It can't be coincidence. The things I was told of were so unusual and specific that they wouldn't just occur with a coincidence. I'm talking about specific products like for old people that had been discussed, or brand names that had been mentioned that hadn't been seen for a long time, and apparently....up they come on Facebook ads.

People SHOULT NOT attribute this just to coincidence. Pay attention, people. Their spy systems are more advanced than you realize. Tell everyone you know to keep an eye on their Facebook ads. It might crop up elsewhere, I don't know, I was just told about Facebook. I don't use Facebook myself so I won't be trying it out personally but I want people to know.
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OP, do you have an Android phone? Google listens through your Android phone then serves ads to your computer based on what it hears. Wouldn't be suprised if they listen through the mic on your computer too though.
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OP, do you have an Android phone? Google listens through your Android phone then serves ads to your computer based on what it hears. Wouldn't be suprised if they listen through the mic on your computer too though.
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Yeah, just the fact that it is called an android doesn't clue anyone in. I remeber when they first came out and they were running comercials on TV. They scared the living shit out of me. No Joke.
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OP, do you have an Android phone? Google listens through your Android phone then serves ads to your computer based on what it hears. Wouldn't be suprised if they listen through the mic on your computer too though.
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I do, but it wasn't me that this happened to. I don't use Facebook so....I guess I'm a lost cause for ads. This was told to me by someone specifically about Facebook ads, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were listening on the cell phones too. Anything with a mic. And we can't forget the cameras either.

Thanks for bringing that up, excellent point. Actually I don't think my source has a Google phone, just some kind of really basic cell phone. These seem to be conversations that took place in the house though, among family members.
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I am throwing this out there for thought and discussion. Has anyone had the experience where you have been discussing a topic - verbally - not something you have written an email about or Googled or used the computer on - and an AD comes up on Facebook that day (or maybe next day but usually same day) about the SAME TOPIC YOU HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING?

For example....you might be discussing something fairly unusual like....Filipino geneaology...and an ad will show up on Facebook for something directly related to that. And you only discussed it verbally with someone else in the house - NOT via the computer at all. Perhaps you've discussed something like oh....Smith Brothers cough drops (haven't seen them in an eon) and an ad will pop up on your Facebook that day for Smith Brothers.

I don't know how common this is and I don't see people discussing it but I wanted to raise the issue.

NOTICE YOUR FACEBOOK ADS IN THE FUTURE AND SEE IF THEY REFLECT ANY PRODUCTS OR TOPICS YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING RECENTLY.

My point? I think that they are actually listening to at least some of us via the computers and translating part of this information into advertising (that shows up on Facebook). We can guess where the rest goes. I don't know if Facebook has to be open for this to happen, or if it happens anyway. Now personally I NEVER use Facebook so I can't test it for myself. But I have been told this, so I figure you guys are a good test sample.

Be aware of your Facebook ads in the future and see if they reflect anything you've been discussing just verbally recently. this is NOT the same as Google ads that might reflect your email as they read all our emails anyway. This is LISTENING.
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OP, do you have an Android phone? Google listens through your Android phone then serves ads to your computer based on what it hears. Wouldn't be suprised if they listen through the mic on your computer too though.
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I do, but it wasn't me that this happened to. I don't use Facebook so....I guess I'm a lost cause for ads. This was told to me by someone specifically about Facebook ads, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were listening on the cell phones too. Anything with a mic. And we can't forget the cameras either.

Thanks for bringing that up, excellent point. Actually I don't think my source has a Google phone, just some kind of really basic cell phone. These seem to be conversations that took place in the house though, among family members.
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I heard somewhere that they can even record while the phoneis off.
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Please tell as many people as possible about this so they can start checking it out for themselves. I think people might see this occasionally and dismiss it as coincidence because they can't imagine the technology being that advanced, or that anyone would have any interest in their innocuous private conversations.

Well, we're talking about an automated system that is massive and apparently quite advanced and encompassing. I think their spying technology and methods are far more advanced than we realize and that it's tied into commercial products and marketing via programs like Facebook.

It may not only be Facebook - maybe it's other programs too, or social media, but I was told about Facebook.

Please write and tell as many people as you can about this so we can have people checking out whether this is going on...and how we stop it.
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OP, do you have an Android phone? Google listens through your Android phone then serves ads to your computer based on what it hears. Wouldn't be suprised if they listen through the mic on your computer too though.
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I do, but it wasn't me that this happened to. I don't use Facebook so....I guess I'm a lost cause for ads. This was told to me by someone specifically about Facebook ads, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were listening on the cell phones too. Anything with a mic. And we can't forget the cameras either.

Thanks for bringing that up, excellent point. Actually I don't think my source has a Google phone, just some kind of really basic cell phone. These seem to be conversations that took place in the house though, among family members.
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I don't use Facebook either but I would think it would be a third party ad server on their so related ads will pop up all over the net when you're surfing. It actually happens to me all the time and I know the Android listens and does this but never really thought about the mic on my laptop. I'm sure they're listening there too.

And to clarify, it's not just when you're talking on the phone, it's anytime.
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OP, do you have an Android phone? Google listens through your Android phone then serves ads to your computer based on what it hears. Wouldn't be suprised if they listen through the mic on your computer too though.
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I do, but it wasn't me that this happened to. I don't use Facebook so....I guess I'm a lost cause for ads. This was told to me by someone specifically about Facebook ads, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were listening on the cell phones too. Anything with a mic. And we can't forget the cameras either.

Thanks for bringing that up, excellent point. Actually I don't think my source has a Google phone, just some kind of really basic cell phone. These seem to be conversations that took place in the house though, among family members.
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I heard somewhere that they can even record while the phoneis off.
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I have heard this too, and it might be true for all I know. I wonder if taking the battery out helps. But I wanted people to focus specifically on their computers and Facebook because the ads apparrently have been pretty....specific. I mean about products and services that are not commonly used or mentioned.

Creepy!!!
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OP, do you have an Android phone? Google listens through your Android phone then serves ads to your computer based on what it hears. Wouldn't be suprised if they listen through the mic on your computer too though.
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I do, but it wasn't me that this happened to. I don't use Facebook so....I guess I'm a lost cause for ads. This was told to me by someone specifically about Facebook ads, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were listening on the cell phones too. Anything with a mic. And we can't forget the cameras either.

Thanks for bringing that up, excellent point. Actually I don't think my source has a Google phone, just some kind of really basic cell phone. These seem to be conversations that took place in the house though, among family members.
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I don't use Facebook either but I would think it would be a third party ad server on their so related ads will pop up all over the net when you're surfing. It actually happens to me all the time and I know the Android listens and does this but never really thought about the mic on my laptop. I'm sure they're listening there too.

And to clarify, it's not just when you're talking on the phone, it's anytime.
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The Facebook connection apparently is very graphic and explicit as the products or services that showed up were for unusual things. And it's happened several times so it's not coincidence.

What's creepiest about this is that these products and services were ONLY MENTIONED IN VERBAL CONVERSATIONS....NOT on the computer in writing or searching. So...they have mics and programs that can process our private speech for commercial (and other) purposes.

Thanks for your comment about the third party ad server, that's very interesting.
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If this has happened to anyone else besides Ms. Superduper, please post it here so we can start paying attention to this. And tell everyone to keep an eye on their Facebook ads particularly. It might happen on other prorams as well, but I was told about Facebook and that should make it easier for us to track.
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OP, do you have an Android phone? Google listens through your Android phone then serves ads to your computer based on what it hears. Wouldn't be suprised if they listen through the mic on your computer too though.
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I do, but it wasn't me that this happened to. I don't use Facebook so....I guess I'm a lost cause for ads. This was told to me by someone specifically about Facebook ads, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were listening on the cell phones too. Anything with a mic. And we can't forget the cameras either.

Thanks for bringing that up, excellent point. Actually I don't think my source has a Google phone, just some kind of really basic cell phone. These seem to be conversations that took place in the house though, among family members.
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I don't use Facebook either but I would think it would be a third party ad server on their so related ads will pop up all over the net when you're surfing. It actually happens to me all the time and I know the Android listens and does this but never really thought about the mic on my laptop. I'm sure they're listening there too.

And to clarify, it's not just when you're talking on the phone, it's anytime.
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The Facebook connection apparently is very graphic and explicit as the products or services that showed up were for unusual things. And it's happened several times so it's not coincidence.

What's creepiest about this is that these products and services were ONLY MENTIONED IN VERBAL CONVERSATIONS....NOT on the computer in writing or searching. So...they have mics and programs that can process our private speech for commercial (and other) purposes.

Thanks for your comment about the third party ad server, that's very interesting.
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I know it happens to me all time except the ads are on Youtube (don't use facebook). I alway chalked it up the Android phone because I know it does this. Yes, the ads are very specific and exactly what you were talking about. I know, I know.
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I believe it.
Your computer must be picking up conversations and imo it doesn't even matter if you're on facebook. It's everywhere on all sorts of sites.
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