how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?

Communism, Fascism, Capitalism etc etc

They don't kill people.

Brainwashed humans kill.

by the way Christianity and communism is basically the same ideology

maybe they twist the numbers in a way, such that the victims of ww2 are also labeled as "victims of communism"

...which is, that people are "bad" or "sinful" and have to be re-educated to become "good"

fixed it

fixed it

No, the dead in wars aren't included. Try to read and understand history.

Disgusting is your brainwashing, trainer.

You and we have different history. And it is not the fact that your story is true.

No you are disgusting for agreeing to the soul destroying religion of communism or any other related ism.

Then we can agree to disagree. Your "facts" are not mine.

I'm not a communist. I just hate lies.

What are the facts? You do not cite a single documented fact.
Only "tens of millions"

And so do I. I have seen the grey horror of communism.

And so do I. I have seen the grey horror of communism.

See the cited work that began this thread. Or look up Rummel for his documentation of the murders that communist governments have perpetuated.


Or look up the katyn forest massacre. Or what happened in the Ukraine to the Kulaks.

The black book of communism is an attempt to get an accurate number for the deaths directly caused by various communist regimes.



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Why isn't the Black Book of Communism on the curriculum of every school in Europe? Because it isn't exhaustive enough? Because its authors lack credibility? Because there is still more to be understood and researched on the matter?

At more than 850 pages of carefully sifted evidence by a group of top-level scholars from a variety of countries and disciplines, the Black Book is as solid a piece of scholarship as any other you'll find being taught in our schools.

Is it definitive? How could it be? Communist regimes went to great lengths to conceal their crimes, and one of the most oppressive of all, North Korea, still exists to this day. What the book does is use the best available evidence to give a sense of the scale of what we are dealing with.

In introducing the Black Book, lead author Stephane Courtois, Director of Research at the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (CNRS) in Paris, offers the following rough breakdown of the numbers of people that communism killed:

USSR -- 20 million

China -- 65 million

Vietnam -- 1 million

North Korea -- 2 million

Cambodia -- 2 million

Eastern Europe -- 1 million

Latin America -- 150,000

Africa -- 1.7 million

Afghanistan -- 1.5 million

Communist movements, parties not in power -- 10,000

Capitalism has killed and tortured many more over many more years just not in the west, by and large, over the past 50 years.

Western propaganda has always been famous for the ability to manipulate the numbers. 20 million, 45, 50-60, who are more?

Exactly why the current administration should be feared.

Communism sucks, but you need to learn your history.

The ideology called christianity killed many more people than communism.

Most of South America, millions in Europe during the Inquisition, and the Crusades.