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how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?

 
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
The black book of communism is an attempt to get an accurate number for the deaths directly caused by various communist regimes.



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Why isn't the Black Book of Communism on the curriculum of every school in Europe? Because it isn't exhaustive enough? Because its authors lack credibility? Because there is still more to be understood and researched on the matter?

At more than 850 pages of carefully sifted evidence by a group of top-level scholars from a variety of countries and disciplines, the Black Book is as solid a piece of scholarship as any other you'll find being taught in our schools.

Is it definitive? How could it be? Communist regimes went to great lengths to conceal their crimes, and one of the most oppressive of all, North Korea, still exists to this day. What the book does is use the best available evidence to give a sense of the scale of what we are dealing with.

In introducing the Black Book, lead author Stephane Courtois, Director of Research at the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (CNRS) in Paris, offers the following rough breakdown of the numbers of people that communism killed:

USSR -- 20 million

China -- 65 million

Vietnam -- 1 million

North Korea -- 2 million

Cambodia -- 2 million

Eastern Europe -- 1 million

Latin America -- 150,000

Africa -- 1.7 million

Afghanistan -- 1.5 million

Communist movements, parties not in power -- 10,000
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Same shit is true about capitalism, bro. It's corrupt governments, not economic systems that kill and torture. Or are you too inbred to know the difference between government and economy?
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11/09/2013 04:38 PM
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
The black book of communism is an attempt to get an accurate number for the deaths directly caused by various communist regimes.



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Why isn't the Black Book of Communism on the curriculum of every school in Europe? Because it isn't exhaustive enough? Because its authors lack credibility? Because there is still more to be understood and researched on the matter?

At more than 850 pages of carefully sifted evidence by a group of top-level scholars from a variety of countries and disciplines, the Black Book is as solid a piece of scholarship as any other you'll find being taught in our schools.

Is it definitive? How could it be? Communist regimes went to great lengths to conceal their crimes, and one of the most oppressive of all, North Korea, still exists to this day. What the book does is use the best available evidence to give a sense of the scale of what we are dealing with.

In introducing the Black Book, lead author Stephane Courtois, Director of Research at the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (CNRS) in Paris, offers the following rough breakdown of the numbers of people that communism killed:

USSR -- 20 million

China -- 65 million

Vietnam -- 1 million

North Korea -- 2 million

Cambodia -- 2 million

Eastern Europe -- 1 million

Latin America -- 150,000

Africa -- 1.7 million

Afghanistan -- 1.5 million

Communist movements, parties not in power -- 10,000
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Same shit is true about capitalism, bro. It's corrupt governments, not economic systems that kill and torture. Or are you too inbred to know the difference between government and economy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30780737


Well bro, I agree the state in any form is a killer. Maybe you could point to just where "capitalism" killed and tortured millions of people in any way comparable to the murder sprees of communist systems.

Or are you just too inbred to know the difference between degree and kind?

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charliecool69
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
As many as capitalism.
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11/09/2013 04:50 PM
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
Can't find the data but how many aztec and mayan indians were killed by the spanish. over 50 million. the capitalist crimes are disguised.
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
Communism was created from out of the pits of hell ; just like a lot of other belief systems on this satanic planet.

Communism has killed more souls than can be counted

It is said, Stalin killed upwards of 20 million of his own peoples

but this number is now thought to be many more than this

In Russia, they frequently find mass graves dating back to the time of Stalin when construction workers start digging for new buildings and such....
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11/09/2013 04:53 PM
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
Why limit it to communism? How about government , period.
[link to www.hawaii.edu]

Lists all government mass murders in the 20th century.
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
White capitalists' came to this country and exterminated close to 50 million. Hard to beat that isn't it.
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
Can't find the data but how many aztec and mayan indians were killed by the spanish. over 50 million. the capitalist crimes are disguised.
 Quoting: charliecool69 49691267


Many Aztec and Myans tortured and ritually sacrificed millions over many decades

Just making it clear; those peoples were no innocents either

Read up on myan and aztec history ; it is pretty darn bloody what they did themselves....
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11/09/2013 04:58 PM
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
I bet capitalism has killed more
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11/09/2013 05:29 PM
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
May I ask

WHOM will the US Left target for killing?

We alredy know:

1. Unborn Babies
2. Down Syndrome Children
3. Disabled
4. Cancer or People with Diseases
5. What about the welfare people?
6. What about those who cannot make enough money?
7. Jews
8. Whites
Who is on Obama's list to kill?
Christard and Lover of God
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
What is your point though?


Communism was funded and created by the same people who own and run your whole banking system.


Or don't you realise that yet?
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
Why limit it to communism? How about government , period.
[link to www.hawaii.edu]

Lists all government mass murders in the 20th century.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49663850


from your link


Among all the democide estimates appearing on this website, and in the table on the lower right, some have been revised upward. I have changed that for Mao's famine, 1958-1962, from zero to 38,000,000. And thus I have had to change the overall democide for the PRC (1928-1987) from 38,702,000 to 76,702,000. Details here.

I have changed my estimate for colonial democide from 870,000 to an additional 50,000,000. Details here.

Thus, the new world total: old total 1900-1999 = 174,000,000. New World total = 174,000,000 + 38,000,000 (new for China) + 50,000,000 (new for Colonies) = 262,000,000.

Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5', then they would circle the earth ten times. Also, this democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century. Finally, given popular estimates of the dead in a major nuclear war, this total democide is as though such a war did occur, but with its dead spread over a century.
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
bump
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
Communism is directly responsible for far too many deaths to still be considered a valid political ideology.

Anybody proposing this system of governance should be executed where they stand.
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
ISMs are a bitch, take your pick, if the left one don't get you then the right one will!
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Re: how many people has communism killed, murdered, tortured and starved to death?
the number and countries would be higher if you counted
the NWO Wars the USA has led going back to Korea and all the others since. (Millions of people killed and countries laid waste.)





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