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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003981 United States 10/09/2010 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not EVERYONE can be an entrepreneur Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111128every entrepreneur NEEDS people to produce the shit he thinks up. very high handed attitude you are taking here ET! sorry, bit of an anger misspell there! why are you angry? because you are one of the people producing the shit? of course you could have a society of individually motivated people, each producing or providing what is needed/wanted by others, or some simply producing what they themselves need. how big a society? depends how many acyually wish to live like this. maybe after the nwo wipes out 80/90% of us? rumsfeld can weave baskets to swap with cheneys clay pots or something. |
Evil Twin
(OP) 10/09/2010 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Working for yourself requires too much effort for most people.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1124626theres much more to it then that.. our education.school system is not even setup to make humans independant or teach them the skills to be independant. Then a lot of it is poor parenting. My parents, not the schools, set the example and taught me to be as independent as possible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1125011 Sweden 10/09/2010 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work for other people, while writing poetry to my heart's content. I don't expect to become wealthy anytime soon, but it's my passion. Writing is something I HAVE to do, like masturbation. Ideas continue to build until I release all over my poetry blog. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1111128 United Kingdom 10/09/2010 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not EVERYONE can be an entrepreneur Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003981every entrepreneur NEEDS people to produce the shit he thinks up. very high handed attitude you are taking here ET! sorry, bit of an anger misspell there! why are you angry? because you are one of the people producing the shit? of course you could have a society of individually motivated people, each producing or providing what is needed/wanted by others, or some simply producing what they themselves need. how big a society? depends how many acyually wish to live like this. maybe after the nwo wipes out 80/90% of us? rumsfeld can weave baskets to swap with cheneys clay pots or something. no, i'm self employed, but come on ffs. do you think EVERYONE can be an entrepreneur? it's a fucking ridiculous thought! |
Phennommennonn
Forum Administrator User ID: 1034196 United States 10/09/2010 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are 90% of the people in the West perfectly content to be wage slaves? Quoting: Evil TwinWhat happened to the entrepreneur's spirit? I've been self employed most of my life. I have taken employee positions a few times, briefly, when times were tight, but I hated every single minute of it. I can't imagine being happy working for someone else my entire life. precisely why ET, after i ret'd from the govt, i created small biz/investments. the man sucks. drews got it rough - hes lost so many jobs since 08 ive lost track. i sent him back to college. hes going to work for me now. (god help him ) political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003981 United States 10/09/2010 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | although ultimately there will still be those who will have to perform menial tasks if they are capable of nothing more? a self employed toilet cleaner may write his/her own invoices, and require the services of an accountant, and even earn more than a person 'employed' in a far more glamorous or comfortable profession. but they still clean toilets. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1111128 United Kingdom 10/09/2010 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Working for yourself requires too much effort for most people.. Quoting: Evil Twintheres much more to it then that.. our education.school system is not even setup to make humans independant or teach them the skills to be independant. Then a lot of it is poor parenting. My parents, not the schools, set the example and taught me to be as independent as possible. yeah yeah ET tell me, did you enjoy your last meal out? did you tip? this is a fucking bullshit 'look at me aren't I fucking brilliant' thread, and you KNOW it! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003981 United States 10/09/2010 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not EVERYONE can be an entrepreneur Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111128every entrepreneur NEEDS people to produce the shit he thinks up. very high handed attitude you are taking here ET! sorry, bit of an anger misspell there! why are you angry? because you are one of the people producing the shit? of course you could have a society of individually motivated people, each producing or providing what is needed/wanted by others, or some simply producing what they themselves need. how big a society? depends how many acyually wish to live like this. maybe after the nwo wipes out 80/90% of us? rumsfeld can weave baskets to swap with cheneys clay pots or something. no, i'm self employed, but come on ffs. do you think EVERYONE can be an entrepreneur? it's a fucking ridiculous thought! it is ridiculous to me that you find this a ridiculous thought. you are evidence that the attempt to convey such an impression is, unfortunately, working on some. somehow. |
Coolhandluke74
User ID: 905625 United States 10/09/2010 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Working for yourself requires too much effort for most people.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111128theres much more to it then that.. our education.school system is not even setup to make humans independant or teach them the skills to be independant. Then a lot of it is poor parenting. My parents, not the schools, set the example and taught me to be as independent as possible. yeah yeah ET tell me, did you enjoy your last meal out? did you tip? this is a fucking bullshit 'look at me aren't I fucking brilliant' thread, and you KNOW it! Why are you being a dick? All he is saying is why are people content on being a slave when they can open up their own business and make good money doing it. It is not easy but i much rather work for myself then someone else. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003981 United States 10/09/2010 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Working for yourself requires too much effort for most people.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111128theres much more to it then that.. our education.school system is not even setup to make humans independant or teach them the skills to be independant. Then a lot of it is poor parenting. My parents, not the schools, set the example and taught me to be as independent as possible. yeah yeah ET tell me, did you enjoy your last meal out? did you tip? this is a fucking bullshit 'look at me aren't I fucking brilliant' thread, and you KNOW it! but what does he do? he may be a freelance colonic irrigator? would you swap to doing something you disliked to feel free of direct authority in the workplace? maybe you wish to only work 10 hours a week, value time above money, and will actually earn the same or less than a production line worker or postman or garbage collector? your reaction to someone who chooses to be self employed seems strange. is it something you wish to do? or maybe have tried to do, and failed? |
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Rhian User ID: 875736 United States 10/09/2010 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 100+ years ago in the USA, everyone wanted to be self sufficient, whether it was owning your own farm, or a small business. Nobody wanted to depend on someone else to make a living. Quoting: Evil TwinI'm pretty sure we were all brainwashed in public schools, and by the cutesy TV programming after school. |
Phennommennonn
Forum Administrator User ID: 1034196 United States 10/09/2010 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | remember my thread ET? For those unemployed/who asked: Ideas to supplement your income or start your own business. Thread: For those unemployed/who asked: Ideas to supplement your income or start your own business. ppl CAN start their own biz will little to no startup. they just gotta want to. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1124055 United Kingdom 10/09/2010 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people don't need training they simply accept what's there and on't question it. Then the next layer understand that they will succeed better if they bend to the system and work with it. The next layer feed off the system and use it to enhance their position acquiring capital and making the capital work. One final layer remains those who sit stubbornly outside the system, motivated to change it somehow. |
I Do Know It All
User ID: 1125022 United States 10/09/2010 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are 90% of the people in the West perfectly content to be wage slaves? Quoting: Evil TwinWhat happened to the entrepreneur's spirit? I've been self employed most of my life. I have taken employee positions a few times, briefly, when times were tight, but I hated every single minute of it. I can't imagine being happy working for someone else my entire life. I have always been my own boss.....sometimes work very hard....others I play golf all week....make good to great money and book "MY" time as I see fit. The other day bought someone behind me in starbucks a coffee and sold 800.00 in my products.....get out there america we can beat this thing I Work --- I Party --- I Live :title222: [link to www.youtube.com] My Theme Song [link to www.youtube.com] How I Define Living |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003981 United States 10/09/2010 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BULLSHIT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111128you are actually trying to tell me that EVERY worker on the planet should be self employed? what sort of society would THAT lead to? you're deluded. all of you that think like this. i'm sorry. why dont you think about that for a while. actually think. or have you been embittered by financial slavery so long you have forgotton the noble art of independant thought. let me help you. start with a society of 100 people. you pick th eskill-sets, ages, abilities. (not 100 stephen hawkings) now expand. and expand some more. getting there? |
Money Makes The World Go Round User ID: 1122828 United States 10/09/2010 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyhoo, your own money, your own place, your own car = your own life. It is a right of passage. You kick the birds out of the nest when they are able to fly. Its the natural progression of things. |
You're So Right!!!!!!!! User ID: 1122828 United States 10/09/2010 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1006530 United States 10/09/2010 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are 90% of the people in the West perfectly content to be wage slaves? Quoting: Evil TwinWhat happened to the entrepreneur's spirit? I've been self employed most of my life. I have taken employee positions a few times, briefly, when times were tight, but I hated every single minute of it. I can't imagine being happy working for someone else my entire life. Evil Twin is a inspiration Best mod @ GLP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1111128 United Kingdom 10/09/2010 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BULLSHIT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003981you are actually trying to tell me that EVERY worker on the planet should be self employed? what sort of society would THAT lead to? you're deluded. all of you that think like this. i'm sorry. why dont you think about that for a while. actually think. or have you been embittered by financial slavery so long you have forgotton the noble art of independant thought. let me help you. start with a society of 100 people. you pick th eskill-sets, ages, abilities. (not 100 stephen hawkings) now expand. and expand some more. getting there? what?? are you ACTUALLY saying that every single worker in the USA, or the UK, or wherever, can REALISTICALLY be a self employed, successful entrepreneur? really? i can expand. really, i can. |
DanfromtheHills
User ID: 945238 United States 10/09/2010 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hunter gatherers worked an average of 14 hours per week. It takes an external threat to make people work harder. Peer pressure, a real or imagined enemy, natural disaster, or the police to name a few. The desire to not have these things interfere with your happiness, is usually good enough. The threat being more powerful than it's execution. "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003981 United States 10/09/2010 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we'd all 'much rather work for ourselves' but IT JUST ISN'T FUCKING POSSIBLE! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 875736sorry! again. You are right. In England it is not possible and has never been possible. That's why people got on ships and came to America. england was once known as a nation of shop-keepers, a parody later used: a nation of shelf-fillers. this attitude to the possibility, or impossibility of freedom from the capatilist junta is very pitiful. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003981 United States 10/09/2010 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BULLSHIT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111128you are actually trying to tell me that EVERY worker on the planet should be self employed? what sort of society would THAT lead to? you're deluded. all of you that think like this. i'm sorry. why dont you think about that for a while. actually think. or have you been embittered by financial slavery so long you have forgotton the noble art of independant thought. let me help you. start with a society of 100 people. you pick th eskill-sets, ages, abilities. (not 100 stephen hawkings) now expand. and expand some more. getting there? what?? are you ACTUALLY saying that every single worker in the USA, or the UK, or wherever, can REALISTICALLY be a self employed, successful entrepreneur? really? i can expand. really, i can. you use the term entrepreneur. i deduce there fore your vison of self-employment to be one of glrious, quickly gained affluence. it is attainable, desirable, for every person to work in a capacity that does not have them directly employed by, or subserviant to another. it is massively unlikely, all the more so for every person who is as blinkered as yourself. |
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Evil Twin
(OP) 10/09/2010 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah yeah ET Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1111128tell me, did you enjoy your last meal out? did you tip? this is a fucking bullshit 'look at me aren't I fucking brilliant' thread, and you KNOW it! Yes, I thoroughly enjoyed my last meal out. It was a little Mexican restaurant, owned by, guess who, an entrepreneur and his wife. I always tip 20%. This wasn't meant to be a look at me thread, sorry if it comes across that way. I am genuinely baffled by how our society has so completely changed in so little time. I get that there are some people who are genuinely happy working for a paycheck and leaving all the other headaches to someone else. There just seems to be a whole lot more of them than there were a few decades ago. |