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wil b wuz
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1110333 United States 10/09/2010 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are 90% of the people in the West perfectly content to be wage slaves? Quoting: Evil TwinWhat happened to the entrepreneur's spirit? I've been self employed most of my life. I have taken employee positions a few times, briefly, when times were tight, but I hated every single minute of it. I can't imagine being happy working for someone else my entire life. Amen ET! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 648833 United States 10/09/2010 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are 90% of the people in the West perfectly content to be wage slaves? Quoting: Evil TwinWhat happened to the entrepreneur's spirit? I've been self employed most of my life. I have taken employee positions a few times, briefly, when times were tight, but I hated every single minute of it. I can't imagine being happy working for someone else my entire life. Some people don't feel the need to make a lot of money. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1124626 United States 10/09/2010 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been self employed most of my life. I have taken employee positions a few times, briefly, when times were tight, but I hated every single minute of it. Quoting: Evil TwinI can't imagine being happy working for someone else my entire life. Perhaps im wrong, but even if you are self employed , you are still working for someone else. Now go ahead and ban me :} |
Olibow
User ID: 769657 United States 10/09/2010 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't work right now. I have so much of everything it's ridiculous. All I really need is a more reliable car. I can understand wanting things, but I ave literal multitudes of the same thing. I could start a store. Being unemployed the last year and a half shows me how much excess I really have that compensates for other types of emptiness. I think a lot of people cover sadness with stuff. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~ From ED TV (1999) I feel that Ed (TV) is the apotheosis of a prevailing American syndrome. It used to be that someone became famous because they were special. Now people are considered special just for being famous. Fame, itself, is now a moral good in this country. It's its own virtue. |
Enaid
User ID: 515273 United States 10/09/2010 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Public schools Research Horace Mann and his ilk. Also Prussian education system. Sit down. Shut up. Don't question the system or you will be beaten. Last Edited by Enaid on 10/09/2010 07:09 PM Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen. :enaid11: |
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Evil Twin
(OP) 10/09/2010 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps im wrong, but even if you are self employed , you are still working for someone else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1124626Now go ahead and ban me :} Well sure. I work for my customers, and I still have to pay protection money to Uncle Sugar, but I have a lot more freedom than the people who punch a time clock every day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1124626 United States 10/09/2010 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps im wrong, but even if you are self employed , you are still working for someone else. Quoting: Evil TwinNow go ahead and ban me :} Well sure. I work for my customers, and I still have to pay protection money to Uncle Sugar, but I have a lot more freedom than the people who punch a time clock every day. good and bad in both scenarios.. people who punch a time clock , can often have less headaches then self employed people.. also..slef employed people can often have a hard time getting paid for the jobs they do. |
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Evil Twin
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1124626 United States 10/09/2010 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps im wrong, but even if you are self employed , you are still working for someone else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1124626Now go ahead and ban me :} Well sure. I work for my customers, and I still have to pay protection money to Uncle Sugar, but I have a lot more freedom than the people who punch a time clock every day. good and bad in both scenarios.. people who punch a time clock , can often have less headaches then self employed people.. also..slef employed people can often have a hard time getting paid for the jobs they do. 2 of my best freinds have been self employed all their life...and they are always saying that their customers are often not good at paying for services rendered. If you work for a comapny..you usually get paid regularly...not true for self employed people |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 10/09/2010 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How Did They Train Everyone To Want a Job? Quoting: Evil TwinEasy, the industrial revolution made labor specialization necessary to manufacture products. The specialized labor to minimize waste and maximize efficiency and then through advertising sold everyone a new dishwasher, tv, automobile, etc. Then unions demanded high wages and benefits for workers to attract people into the machine and become specialized. Then they sent all the manufacturing to China since labor was too expensive here but everyone was still in the specialized consumer mindset, it's a sociological phenomenon. Now even part time jobs won't hire someone unless they have a couple years specialized in doing some mindless task. The economy has been offshored but the idea of specialization is built into our societal framework. |
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Frigg Stuyvesant
User ID: 1108799 United States 10/09/2010 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps im wrong, but even if you are self employed , you are still working for someone else. Quoting: Evil TwinNow go ahead and ban me :} Well sure. I work for my customers, and I still have to pay protection money to Uncle Sugar, but I have a lot more freedom than the people who punch a time clock every day. HA HA HA! Cui Bono? |
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wil b wuz
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003981 United States 10/09/2010 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Working for yourself requires too much effort for most people.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^until they try it, i think most people percieve working for yourself as being less effort. certainly very rarely true, especialy for the first year or two, depending on your ultimate ambition. those who attempt to work for themselve due to purely financial motivation are less likely to succeed than those driven by other factors. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003981 United States 10/09/2010 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps im wrong, but even if you are self employed , you are still working for someone else. Quoting: Frigg StuyvesantNow go ahead and ban me :} Well sure. I work for my customers, and I still have to pay protection money to Uncle Sugar, but I have a lot more freedom than the people who punch a time clock every day. HA HA HA! :cui bono: ultimately, in the majority of cases someone 'working for themselves' is still exchanging their time for money, to perform tasks/services or supply gooods to others. |
Rev. Mother Nene
User ID: 1114807 United States 10/09/2010 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't work right now. I have so much of everything it's ridiculous. Quoting: OlibowAll I really need is a more reliable car. I can understand wanting things, but I ave literal multitudes of the same thing. I could start a store. Being unemployed the last year and a half shows me how much excess I really have that compensates for other types of emptiness. I think a lot of people cover sadness with stuff. Need a professional organizer/personal assistant? That's what I do. :) Currently helping a prominent artist get her stuff (she's quite the collector) and life organized. I generally only have one client at a time though, I'm still on call once a week for my previous one when he needs help. I work for room, board and a small salary. :) "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
DanfromtheHills
User ID: 945238 United States 10/09/2010 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Working for yourself requires too much effort for most people.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1124626theres much more to it then that.. our education.school system is not even setup to make humans independant or teach them the skills to be independant. +10 Conditioning on many different levels. "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |
Pea Vine
User ID: 700745 United States 10/09/2010 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By offering them so many products, and then making it look like all of the beautiful people have them. Quoting: Evil TwinSo why work for a middleman that skims some of the profit for your labor? I'm sure my slats will get nailed too a tree on this one, ET. But a lot of this is hereditary. My Daddy worked there....my Grandpa worked there... ect. I understand your point of veiw but there was a certain... comfort, a guarentee if you will, that if I dedicate me and my familys life to the company, at the end, we'll be allowed to survive. I now realise that that isn't true. Economics 101. But at the time there was a bit of TRUST between employer and employee. After my generation is dead, THEN businnes will be what it actually is. I know you won't agree, but that IS how it was. We lived it. Now we bail out the mistakes of our masters. We have to live with it. Knaw away. "I'm still here, you bastards!"...Papillion |