Male egos, and strong, independant women...

No, it really isn't to me...it only figures into the discussion, because it causes problems for me.
If it didn't come between me and the men I've been involved with ( THEY are the ones that have the problem with me making more than they do, not me!), I wouldn't bring it up.

You'd be surprised at the number of men that use their wealth as a way to 'get' women, or use it to control them.
They get really pissed off when I'm unimpressed by it, and they cannot "buy my affections and loyalty" with 'stuff'.
It really bothers them that I have my own house, 3 paid for vehicles, and money to do whatever I want....that I don't have to come and ask them for anything other than their love and affection, spend time with me.
It really bothers them that if I don't like working for a specific person, I can tell them 'fuck off", and walk away, and go out and find another job, as soon as I want to.

I think this is why they act like they do.....they just can't handle simply being 'wanted', and not 'needed'.
It takes all their 'power' away.


Aren't we talking about how special you are ?

Could it be that you are in direct competition with them the entite time you are around them.
This is what I dealing with right now in my life and there is no reason. My meir presence generates a competition based on the vanity of women. They have got to be better than men. It's fucking stupid.

Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.

I don't consider myself 'special'....blighted maybe, but def. not special.

I'm not in competitiion with them...I'm just trying to be me, and do what I love...that just happens to generate money.
There is just something about it, that somehow men turn it into a competition, when it isn't 1.
I want them to be proud to be with me, because I am not a Albatross around their neck, simply leaching off of them...I am a woman born with a gift, a need to create.... just let me be me, and let me shine, and I will shower them with so much love they wouldn't know what to do with it all!
This dosen't happen though....the more money I earn, the more awards i win for my work...the more they feel they are in competition with me...less than me.
I've never thrown any of my accomplishments in anyone's face.....because I'm not doing the work I do for money, or awards, I'm doing it because it is a part of my Spirit, something I was born to do....something I LOVE to do.
Why is that so threatning to a man?
Is it because they have nothing like that in their own lives...so they feel I shouldn't either?

OP I'm sure that your experience has been just as you've described.Though I'm afraid it's a bit more complicated than that. The entire dynamic between men and women has been tampered with and redesgned in a way that is not balance.

Women seem to love the way things have turned out because they get to have all the benefits that patriarchy has provided many men(not all).

The reason women are doing better than men right is largely by the elitists design.

I'm talking about the men that get intimidated/jealous of a strong, independant woman.

OP I'm sure that your experience has been just as you've described.Though I'm afraid it's a bit more complicated than that. The entire dynamic between men and women has been tampered with and redesgned in a way that is not balance.

Women seem to love the way things have turned out because they get to have all the benefits that patriarchy has provided many men(not all).

The reason women are doing better than men right is largely by the elitists design.

Wtf strong females are hot as hell , you just have to push different buttons.


i cant stand those stupid cunt types of women, you know, those who have no opinion and cannot think for themsellves...

but strong intelligent women are a rarity these days . /

I don't consider myself 'special'....blighted maybe, but def. not special.

I'm not in competitiion with them...I'm just trying to be me, and do what I love...that just happens to generate money.
There is just something about it, that somehow men turn it into a competition, when it isn't 1.
I want them to be proud to be with me, because I am not a Albatross around their neck, simply leaching off of them...I am a woman born with a gift, a need to create.... just let me be me, and let me shine, and I will shower them with so much love they wouldn't know what to do with it all!
This dosen't happen though....the more money I earn, the more awards i win for my work...the more they feel they are in competition with me...less than me.
I've never thrown any of my accomplishments in anyone's face.....because I'm not doing the work I do for money, or awards, I'm doing it because it is a part of my Spirit, something I was born to do....something I LOVE to do.
Why is that so threatning to a man?
Is it because they have nothing like that in their own lives...so they feel I shouldn't either?



I don't know what to tell you. I think it's just the simple law of women like dickheads.

Maybe men are afraid that you feel entitled to everything they have and you have the resouces to get it.

No matter how much you tell yourself you're not in competition with men it is a competition. I didn't say you designed this competition, but you do play the game.

What is your definition of femininity? The definitions and roles have been reverse in many ways.Straight men largely don't like the new rules.

That's why (as quiet as it's kept) women are marrying gay men.

I'm talking about the men that get intimidated/jealous of a strong, independant woman.










Stopped reading right there. When you hear these words, you know it is going to be a lot of Oprah, feel good drivel about how "strong" women are.

There are not any.

Women are like little children. You can tell them how great and strong they are, but its just baloney to make them feel good.

Men know this.

And women like this mostly end up alone and bitter, pointing fingers at everyone, except themselves.

Because in reality, all women want to be taken care of by a man.

Just how it is.

Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.

Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


Could you please expound on this thought?
I'd like to know more about it.... :)

Exactly , equal yet still entitled to all things that men are suposed give to a women. That fair. Not.

Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


lol, that way over OP's head AC

I have 0 desire to 'be taken care of' by any man.

Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


Could you please expound on this thought?
I'd like to know more about it.... :)


Certainly. The path of the obvious is often the most obscure.... though right at our feet. It's examples are always all around us, the world of natural phenomena constantly offering clues. The natural order can be viewed in the most simple of things, the arc late spring snow makes falling off a leaf to the ground, effortless and on time.

I'm not trying to be obtuse. You seem sincere in your posts or I wouldn't have answered. Men and women fit into this order also, of course, if you want it to be so.

Exactly , equal yet still entitled to all things that men are suposed give to a women. That fair. Not.

Well ?

Is this true ?

No matter how much you tell yourself you're not in competition with men it is a competition. I didn't say you designed this competition, but you do play the game.

What is your definition of femininity? The definitions and roles have been reverse in many ways.Straight men largely don't like the new rules.

That's why (as quiet as it's kept) women are marrying gay men.


How can I get out of the game?
Because I never wanted to be part of it , at any time....just wanted to be me, and live my life the way that makes me happy....like all humans strive to do.

the Natural Order of things have become very mixed up.

Exactly , equal yet still entitled to all things that men are suposed give to a women. That fair. Not.

Well ?

Is this true ?

Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


lol, that way over OP's head AC

The days of a man being the 1 to 'bring home the bacon', and return home to a loving wife that gives him emotional support and has taken care of the home, has dinner on the table for him are over.

Try to find the natural order of things and incorporate into your life.

There is one you know.


Could you please expound on this thought?
I'd like to know more about it.... :)


Certainly. The path of the obvious is often the most obscure.... though right at our feet. It's examples are always all around us, the world of natural phenomena constantly offering clues. The natural order can be viewed in the most simple of things, the arc late spring snow makes falling off a leaf to the ground, effortless and on time.

I'm not trying to be obtuse. You seem sincere in your posts or I wouldn't have answered. Men and women fit into this order also, of course, if you want it to be so.


I get the basic gist of what you are saying, I think.
And, yes, the Natural Order of things have become very mixed up.
Like I said, I'd be happy with the traditional role Women carried out for eons....but in today's World, things aren't like that anymore.
I didn't create this New World, I am just trying to adapt to be able to have a happy life in it.
This throws me out into the "Hunter's Arena", whether I want to be there or not.