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Genetic memory: The Scientific Basis for Past Life Regression?

 
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Genetic memory: The Scientific Basis for Past Life Regression?
Genetic memory: The Scientific Basis for Past Life
Regression?

Strange fact number 1: Scientists trained flat worms to curl up when exposed
to light by electrocuting them every time the light was turned on. A pure
Pavlovian, conditioned response. Even more unfortunate for the flat worms is
their ability to regenerate themselves if cut in half . An amazing thing in itself;
cut them in half and the head end grows a new tail and the tail end grows a
new head. When the scientists did just that they found something bizarre;
when exposed to light both versions of the worm responded according to the
conditioning. How can this be? Common sense and contempory neuroscience
both agree that memory is contained in the brain, so how can a newly grown
brain come complete with memories?

Strange fact number 2: Take a calf born of stock that is used to cattle grids
but has never seen one itself and introduce it to lines painted on a road to
resemble a grid. It will not cross. How has this knowledge been
communicated?

Strange fact number 3: A new -born chick is placed in a room with a hawk. It
frantically tries to find cover. It meets a chicken for the very first time and is
completely comfortable. People would call this instinct, and I’m sure it is –but
how is instinct passed from one generation to the next? Wouldn’t it have to be
stored in the DNA? And instinct is just a form of memory, so if that form of
memory is stored in the DNA, then why not other forms of memory. It would
explain facts 1 –3 wouldn’t it?

The idea that our memories are stored in our genes is a very recent and
controversial one. It has been accepted since the experiments of Wilder
Penfield back in the fifties, that hidden away in each of us is a permanent
record of our past. We are reminded of it regularly; how many times have you
smelt a particular smell or heard a particular song, and been instantly
transported back to an intense childhood memory. However, most
neuroscientists believed and continue to believe that long-term memories are
built into the brain by creating and strengthening connections between
neighbouring neurons. These connections, known as synapses, are thought
to join neurons up into complex networks that can recreate specific patterns of
brain activity (memories), days, weeks, or even years, later.

There are problems with this model. These connections would need to be
permanent and stable, and the brain is not. Nearly all the brain’s molecules,
including those that form the neural connections thought to be involved in
memory, are replaced every few weeks. How long-lasting memories can be
stored by such an impermanent medium has confounded neuroscience for
years. It is like writing a message on a piece of paper. Suppose we could
replace the paper one molecule at a time. Eventually we would have a
completely new piece of paper, with exactly the same appearance – except it
would not still have the message written on it. Neurobiologist Sandra Pena de
Ortiz suggests that somehow the brain must retain an archived blueprint of
each neural network in order to create the replacement neuron as a structural and functional clone of its predecessor. Nature’s blueprint of choice is, of
course, DNA, and it has the advantage of not undergoing the turnover that
other molecules do. Not only is it quite stable over time, it even has a repair
facility if anything goes wrong.

Pena believes that permanent memories are stored in altered genes. She and
her colleagues believe that our DNA creates ‘memory molecules,’ new novel
proteins, from a unique blueprint that could be formed by neurons rearranging
their DNA in response to each new experience. The unique structure of these
memory molecules would enable them to snap into a specific position at the
synapses, helping make memories stable without disturbing other synaptic
structures. “Changes in synaptic connections wouldn’t remain intact for long,
but gene rearrangements could be kept throughout the neuron’s life.

Some scientists go even further and suggest that these memory molecules
might store information themselves, that each individual neuron contains
memory.

Either way this is a radical concept because the usual concept of our genetic
code is of something fixed at the beginning of our lives, not something that
gets re-written on a daily basis, and certainly not every brain cell being
allowed to tamper with that code. But looking at it from an evolutionary point
of view this arrangement does fulfil an abiding principle – that of Occam’s
razor.

Occam’s razor states that nature always reduces things to the simplest
solution. We know of only three ‘memory systems in nature. There is the
evolutionary memory of how to build an organism; a cognitive memory of
events we experience; and an immune memory of past infections. Two out of
three of these are based o n DNA, we would normally expect nature to be
efficient enough to use the same tools for the third as well, not evolve
something unique.

The impact of this theory, if true, is that our identity, our self, leaves a
permanent mark on our genome. We may pass onto our descendents much
more than eye colour. It has already been estimated that perhaps 40% of
known personality traits are inherited, such as introversion/extraversion. This
theory could explain how. It also poses other intriguing questions for our field.

Carl Jung popularised the idea of a collective unconscious that we are all
plugged into, and suggested it as the repository of racial memories and
universal archetypes. With genetic research now proving the inter-relatedness
of all racial branches of the humanity – we are all related at some point in the
past with Caesar, Sitting Bull, Nelson Mandela, Confucius and Uncle Tom
Cobbly – the genetic transmission of memory would be a sensible transport
mechanism for Jung’s theory. And of course we can get crazier:

If memories are stored in our DNA (and as 97% of it has no obvious function
there is plenty of room), and we pass on our DNA to our children, who do the
same thing with their children, could this be how the instincts of the chick and
calf were passed on? If memory is stored in the genes is that how the flat
worm’s tail can grow a new brain with an old memory? And finally, if they have
access to instinctive memory (as we do - think of the grip response in a child
when it thinks it's being dropped), is it possible to access other ancestral
memories located in our DNA? Could this be an explanation for past-life
regression? When clients regress to memories from a previous life, is it
actually them accessing something present in their genome blueprint, an
ancestral experience?

It is the case that the mind uses past experiences as references to decide the
meaning of what is occurring in the present. In the main we are used to
thinking of such past experiences being limited to this lifetime. Perhaps the
unconscious has access to reference experiences stretching back
generations. Certainly many people who experience such memories under
hypnosis find an answer to a present problem. This would be consistent with
the theory predicting that the effects of our experiences would be expressed
in our genome. If this is inherited by our successors then it would also suggest
that they would be subject to the consequences of those experiences.
Past life regression having a basis in science, whoever would have though it?

Recent research by Elizabeth Young of Princeton University has overturned
another scientific sacred cow. The accepted view has been that we are born
with a massive over-supply of brain cells. As we adapt to our environment
brain cells that are stimulated by our experiences are strengthened, and those
which are not required atrophy. A little like paratroopers dropped into hostile
territory, we are issued with a range of equipment to cope with what we might
find. As we explore the terrain, any equipment that is surplus to requirement is
discarded. So far so true. However, it was also held that we cannot create
new brain cells, the paratrooper cannot re-arm once they have been dropped.
Elizabeth Young has now proved other wise. Brains do indeed grow new brain
cells in response to new learning experiences.

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DNA leaves imprint in water
we are 76% water [same ratio as on planet]

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you learn & grow - DNA gets upgraded - water imprint set


abduct
moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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Past Life regression cannot be explained by Genetics
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the first time I heard of past life memory, decades ago, my first thought was genetic memory.

Years later, I read of similar studies such as the cows, chicken etc, but it was dogs who had inherited their mother's fear to a traumatic stimulus.

Fast forward. When I was 20, I placed my daughter for adoption. It was a closed adoption with no contact between myself and my daughter until years later.

Meanwhile, around the age of 21, maybe 22, my mother had reason to go into psychotherapy. As a result, she made a confession to me--she had tried to commit suicide while pregnant with me by Overdosing.
My first thought was, no wonder I was always afraid of you poisoning me when I was a little kid (I didn't tell her this out loud, but it's true. I had this "irrational" fear until I was old enough to cook for myself.)

Anyway, I subsequently developed a relationship with my daughter when she was around 17. During our "catching up" conversations regarding the prior 17 years, she confided to me that, as a child, she'd been terrified that her [adoptive] mother was going to murder her.

It was only then that I told her about my own experience with my mother.

Now, there could be another explanation for her fear, but the most obvious one to me seems that she somehow inherited my own fear, before I was even aware of its source.

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Genetic memory: The Scientific Basis for Past Life
Regression?

Strange fact number 1: Scientists trained flat worms to curl up when exposed
to light by electrocuting them every time the light was turned on. A pure
Pavlovian, conditioned response. Even more unfortunate for the flat worms is
their ability to regenerate themselves if cut in half . An amazing thing in itself;
cut them in half and the head end grows a new tail and the tail end grows a
new head. When the scientists did just that they found something bizarre;
when exposed to light both versions of the worm responded according to the
conditioning. How can this be? Common sense and contempory neuroscience
both agree that memory is contained in the brain, so how can a newly grown
brain come complete with memories?

Strange fact number 2: Take a calf born of stock that is used to cattle grids
but has never seen one itself and introduce it to lines painted on a road to
resemble a grid. It will not cross. How has this knowledge been
communicated?

Strange fact number 3: A new -born chick is placed in a room with a hawk. It
frantically tries to find cover. It meets a chicken for the very first time and is
completely comfortable. People would call this instinct, and I’m sure it is –but
how is instinct passed from one generation to the next? Wouldn’t it have to be
stored in the DNA? And instinct is just a form of memory, so if that form of
memory is stored in the DNA, then why not other forms of memory. It would
explain facts 1 –3 wouldn’t it?

The idea that our memories are stored in our genes is a very recent and
controversial one. It has been accepted since the experiments of Wilder
Penfield back in the fifties, that hidden away in each of us is a permanent
record of our past. We are reminded of it regularly; how many times have you
smelt a particular smell or heard a particular song, and been instantly
transported back to an intense childhood memory. However, most
neuroscientists believed and continue to believe that long-term memories are
built into the brain by creating and strengthening connections between
neighbouring neurons. These connections, known as synapses, are thought
to join neurons up into complex networks that can recreate specific patterns of
brain activity (memories), days, weeks, or even years, later.

There are problems with this model. These connections would need to be
permanent and stable, and the brain is not. Nearly all the brain’s molecules,
including those that form the neural connections thought to be involved in
memory, are replaced every few weeks. How long-lasting memories can be
stored by such an impermanent medium has confounded neuroscience for
years. It is like writing a message on a piece of paper. Suppose we could
replace the paper one molecule at a time. Eventually we would have a
completely new piece of paper, with exactly the same appearance – except it
would not still have the message written on it. Neurobiologist Sandra Pena de
Ortiz suggests that somehow the brain must retain an archived blueprint of
each neural network in order to create the replacement neuron as a structural and functional clone of its predecessor. Nature’s blueprint of choice is, of
course, DNA, and it has the advantage of not undergoing the turnover that
other molecules do. Not only is it quite stable over time, it even has a repair
facility if anything goes wrong.

Pena believes that permanent memories are stored in altered genes. She and
her colleagues believe that our DNA creates ‘memory molecules,’ new novel
proteins, from a unique blueprint that could be formed by neurons rearranging
their DNA in response to each new experience. The unique structure of these
memory molecules would enable them to snap into a specific position at the
synapses, helping make memories stable without disturbing other synaptic
structures. “Changes in synaptic connections wouldn’t remain intact for long,
but gene rearrangements could be kept throughout the neuron’s life.

Some scientists go even further and suggest that these memory molecules
might store information themselves, that each individual neuron contains
memory.

Either way this is a radical concept because the usual concept of our genetic
code is of something fixed at the beginning of our lives, not something that
gets re-written on a daily basis, and certainly not every brain cell being
allowed to tamper with that code. But looking at it from an evolutionary point
of view this arrangement does fulfil an abiding principle – that of Occam’s
razor.

Occam’s razor states that nature always reduces things to the simplest
solution. We know of only three ‘memory systems in nature. There is the
evolutionary memory of how to build an organism; a cognitive memory of
events we experience; and an immune memory of past infections. Two out of
three of these are based o n DNA, we would normally expect nature to be
efficient enough to use the same tools for the third as well, not evolve
something unique.

The impact of this theory, if true, is that our identity, our self, leaves a
permanent mark on our genome. We may pass onto our descendents much
more than eye colour. It has already been estimated that perhaps 40% of
known personality traits are inherited, such as introversion/extraversion. This
theory could explain how. It also poses other intriguing questions for our field.

Carl Jung popularised the idea of a collective unconscious that we are all
plugged into, and suggested it as the repository of racial memories and
universal archetypes. With genetic research now proving the inter-relatedness
of all racial branches of the humanity – we are all related at some point in the
past with Caesar, Sitting Bull, Nelson Mandela, Confucius and Uncle Tom
Cobbly – the genetic transmission of memory would be a sensible transport
mechanism for Jung’s theory. And of course we can get crazier:

If memories are stored in our DNA (and as 97% of it has no obvious function
there is plenty of room), and we pass on our DNA to our children, who do the
same thing with their children, could this be how the instincts of the chick and
calf were passed on? If memory is stored in the genes is that how the flat
worm’s tail can grow a new brain with an old memory? And finally, if they have
access to instinctive memory (as we do - think of the grip response in a child
when it thinks it's being dropped), is it possible to access other ancestral
memories located in our DNA? Could this be an explanation for past-life
regression? When clients regress to memories from a previous life, is it
actually them accessing something present in their genome blueprint, an
ancestral experience?

It is the case that the mind uses past experiences as references to decide the
meaning of what is occurring in the present. In the main we are used to
thinking of such past experiences being limited to this lifetime. Perhaps the
unconscious has access to reference experiences stretching back
generations. Certainly many people who experience such memories under
hypnosis find an answer to a present problem. This would be consistent with
the theory predicting that the effects of our experiences would be expressed
in our genome. If this is inherited by our successors then it would also suggest
that they would be subject to the consequences of those experiences.
Past life regression having a basis in science, whoever would have though it?

Recent research by Elizabeth Young of Princeton University has overturned
another scientific sacred cow. The accepted view has been that we are born
with a massive over-supply of brain cells. As we adapt to our environment
brain cells that are stimulated by our experiences are strengthened, and those
which are not required atrophy. A little like paratroopers dropped into hostile
territory, we are issued with a range of equipment to cope with what we might
find. As we explore the terrain, any equipment that is surplus to requirement is
discarded. So far so true. However, it was also held that we cannot create
new brain cells, the paratrooper cannot re-arm once they have been dropped.
Elizabeth Young has now proved other wise. Brains do indeed grow new brain
cells in response to new learning experiences.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 845540


Let me give it you straight.

Biological lineage only relates to those who you are biologically related to, so past relatives and so on. You are not reliving a past life, only reliving memories of those ancestors.

DNA trully is what they say it is, a recollection of memories or genes (same thing in my mind). Since you are related to them through DNA, this enables you to also relive those memories which are catalogued.





GLP