Say Nothing to the police

Yes or No answers only.

:-)

Sister......

Usually most places will not take blood without a wreck/injuries, DUI and/or Leaving the scenen with injuries.


Refusing merely activates the "implied consent" laws which

requires you to take any test if there is robable cause to

beileiev you are drunk and if you refuse you automaically
lose your driving license..

PS A license is an "IT" not a "THEM".....I would almost

write you a ticket for being iliterate enough to say "My

License? I LEFT THEM AT HOME" and I always hated to write

tickets for shit I did myself so I have written one since

2001 ( in 2008) for a guy who passed on a douuble yellow

line with a swirched tag and revoked license and he had

left "them" at home even though "they" were revoked and

didn't exist...+ he was a dope dealer....so you figure it out.

We ain't stupid we know shitheads from citizens or citizens

with a bad attitude too.....

Creeping igununce will destroy us all......

And yo' mammyy too bitch.

Done.



Z

I knew we could count on you Zack.

:5:

Personally i take a different tact. Ive lived in Fairfax Va. Arlington, VA, Washington DC, pittsburgh PA and now another area in PA....I go out for drinks every nite , if im drunk i take a taxi, If not i drive, i have no doubt im over the legal limit. When i get pulled over or go thru a dui checkpoint. I say yes officer, no officer, I pay attention and hold any conversation, I do not lie. they ask where im coming from i tell them the name of the bar. They ask where im going i say home, or my girls house officer. Ive only been asked to step out of the car once, even though ive admitted to all of them to drinking. the one time i was asked out of the car, the officer had me walk back to his car, then walk back to my car, then said have a nice nite.

Im sure some of you live in areas not so nice, but as long as ive treated them professionally they have acted so.

Now when they bring you in for questioning....thats a different story. When they ask to take an imprint of your boots to match a bootprint on a door...or a face then i will play the warrant game and give them the silent treatment. When they ask if they can fingerprint me i say "ive been in the military, if i was guilty you would know already, am i free to go? Ive never been locked up other then the drunk tank at the beach a frew times. Never got a dui, and usually talk my way out of speeding tickets.

SEE that is what is fucked up!!! If i come to your hous e for anything that does not involved shooting or shit like that....not only do i care if you have a gun in the house..I will lecture your ass to get one if you don't byy telling you you are already losing the game...that oh my GOD! Does he owne a GUN? OOOHH My pussy hurts A GUN!!! AAAAARRRGGGHHHH...he owns a gun!!!

There's a 43% chance it will hurt his children than a bad guy yada yada yada whata crock. i tlalked to peole who owned them , showed them to me and we admired a nce 1911 or similar pistol.

Went out on a "somebody shooting down by the creek" call and met the guy...he was aneighbor of mine...we talked..he offered me some shots with his fairly good guns and i got 10-8 saying...there is a guy target practicing here....no laws are being violated....that is the samew place that WE used to go try out a new rifle or pistol before it was included in a water plant....

Guns... big fuckin' deal...the shitheads ain't gonna tell me about having one...the regular folks will always.....they will say it ain't registered.

Then I will tell them "that is really stupid of you cause we do't do that here and if we did you would have just voluintarily confessed to commiting a crime....the guns ain't the problems...everybody here knows what is.

Dude...don't tell the name of the bar...tell him aunt Myrtle's sick and I was sitting with hter til uncle bert got home. Civil liability s hell ansd one whiff of alcohol will geet you popped. they can't test you til you are in custody. That;s about a 25 year old ruling. AFTER you are charged and blow .03 they will entertain your motion to dismiss in court and then fine you about 350.00 for reckless driving or something but don't risk it. I wil not lose my home for getting sued for letting someone with alcohol on their breath leave a stop, That is a cardinal rule. Don't talk about bars!!! Don't light a cigarette..already have one lit.....never say 2 beers. That's an automatic DUI.

Cool to have a cop chime in. Thanks.

Woot! Woot! You're the best, OMEGA! This is awesome!

Ive been doing this for 25 years, thanks for the advice but no thanks. You start lying and its too easy to get tangled up. You play badass and that your not going to answer any question when they can smell the alchohol...your done. Ill keep doing what im doing. I dont say 2 beers. Im not afraid to say well i had about 5 beers and 2 pepsi since 8pm(usually around midnite when i leave). Ive been pulled over 8 or 9 times, gone thru 4 checkpoints. never had an issue yet.

5 stars for common sense and knowledge!




You da man OMEGA!!!!

Hey Frigg great to see ya's around, and thanks. ;>)

And btw pretty sure you have read the book however if you haven't there is a link to the .pdf in this thread.......

Last Edited by Omega on 05/22/2009 05:24 PM

thye should let cops beat the crap out of people instead of arresting them- not both

a gu that owns a gun that is drunk they should kick his face in and drive his car in the lake and give his gun to a gay organization so they can sell it.

this is the superior

WTF?
I've never even heard of a drunk gun.
I'm for the death penalty for folks committing PWI (posting while ignorant).

Last Edited by 14WORDS on 05/22/2009 05:34 PM

I believe some states have ruled that you have to give name and address to any officer that asks. It would be better to err on the safe side:


Hello Officer,

Here is my ID. My name and address? My name is

_________ ________


and my address is:

____________________

____________________


Am I free to go please sir?

criminals will not even discuss thier crimes with relatives or best friends.at any time ..so cases are thrown out . cops bug relativ es and friends homes even thier work places and cars and bars and all hangouts jails and everyones phones and still gained no evidence . ..so career criminal gets another free "get out of jail" card . but other evidence puts the killer at the scene of the crime..so no get out of jail card now. . .

Nice to have on .pdf thanks Brother!


Makes it so easy to spread the word!


WORD!

Agree.. even if you only had 2 beers.. NEVER, EVER, tell them you have been drinking. I was pulled over once, after having "borderline one too many".. and the cop asked me "how many drinks did you have today.. I said non. He went to his car and asked me again.. I said "non". Gave me a warning and I was on my way home.

No dude. Not lying. Just don't volunteer the name of a BAR. Tell them Walmart or anything or I was just out for a drive cause I couldn't sleep. you may run up on some rookie who thrives on DUIS.whether good ones or BS ones. They think the brass will 'LIKE THM for doing 40 DUIS a week....

They will then have a beat full of robberies and burglaries but they will work them DUIS ; and someone else will have to cattchh their calls while they are oput of service at the jail....for2 hours... many of their 40 DUIS are bullshit.

The brass will leave them doing that shit til retirement cause it makes the numbers look goood while the rest of us were working our dope neighborhoods, watching our pharmacies, gunstores, and jewelry store/pawnshops and neighborhoods + answering the most inane calls about dog shit in a flower bed and stuff like garbage bags torn open by unidentified dogs. The thhe dumbass who called wants to know how soon we will catch the dawg so we can arrest the owner....a dawg they or anybody else NEVER SAW.....shit....

This is just an educated opinion based on 27 years experience in the field. I guess I am a dinosaur. I didn't stop when I worked patrol unless I had good probable cause. Some cops do DUIS or license checkpoints cause they are to candy assed to go up in the hood/prawjeck by their damn selves and some women are worse than the rookies. I had the attitude that it's MY city, MY county, MY beat and no-damn-body's gonna tell or imntimidate me into NOT going where I want or need to. I got a dmore shitin the front seat and especially the truunk thhatn the homies do and they knew ot cause when you get out with a AK$& ( granted unauthorized but you only had to carrrry aroundonce and hey know...they telll everybody else in the hood to.

Never expect to out will power a cop. if you do he was not much of one. reasined persuasion can be miraculously effective if deployed right. I didn't like to cost people money for shit that all cops do alll night long unless it was just ridiculous like 90 in a 50 zone, a smartassed kid ( A call to their daddy on THEIR celphone is the bEST way to handle 16 year olds with 350 HP babysiitters. It's all what you know and how you act. When i was young i NEVER got treated badly by a cop. My daddywas a fireman and i was taught too offer rrespect and i only got one ticket out all my years from 16 til 25. I was about to go to work for the PD and got stopped. II was afraid, since i hated my then-job that if I told him to try to get out of it they may decide NOT to hire me...SOOO that was the best 64.000 insurance i ever spent since i went to work for that same dept. 2 weeks later. LOL

We had a dope dealer who was bad to threaten "hits" on someof us.
it got out that he supposedly put one on one of our guys so the guy went up to the rural hood and asked hima bout his shit he was talkin' while he left a red dot on his xyphoid process and all of a sudden elightenment came to the dope dealer......never agin diid he fuck with anybody again.
He also don't know that an RPK don't take a belt but when i went up there with an RPK and an M60 belt draped around my shoulders one night and said hey guys what's shaking....they all remembered that they had overdue libraryy books and left....funny shit happens sometimes...It can be fun at times when you deal with fuckin' idiots. You probably couldn't buy a Motrin up there right now...

Until it happpens to you....

Sorry that last one got mixed into the last post it was quoting.

You should be aware of another trick that is used. If you are present at the police station voluntarily and are not under arrest and the Miranda protections do not apply. You may be asked to "come down to the station and talk to us to clear something up." You show up and talk to them. You were never Mirandized and free to leave any time. Therefore, none of your statements can be suppressed for failure to give you a Miranda warning. On the other hand, if they tell you that you are not free to go and do not Mirandize you then any confession or admission is not admissible in court.

Gotta bail Omega. Great Thread! Ciao!

what would you do if you knew a forced blood sample was coming?

any fans of The Wire or Homicide: Life on the Street who aren't familiar with David Simon's book that got that whole ball rolling should absolutely check it out.

awesome excerpt:

[link to books.google.com]

Good reminder and great thread, sweetheart.

I started carrying this information with me post-9/11 (when I was active in protesting the government's responses thereafter, and I was participating in a local peace group):

The National Lawyers' Guild can provide you help in getting a lawyer.

They advise requesting the name, agency and phone number of anyone who might visit you and to say the following to them:

* I wish to remain silent.
* I wish to consult a lawyer.
* I do not consent to a search.

Do *not* *lie* as it is a federal criminal offence. Either say you wish to speak to a lawyer or that you wish to remain silent.

Always carry the name and number of an attorney who will take your case.

www.nlg.org
Hotline: 415-285-1055

Last Edited by Muse on 05/22/2009 06:00 PM