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Anonymous Coward User ID: 500063 United States 05/22/2009 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are guilty NEVER talk, that is good advice. If you are innocent and they seem to be trying to frame you or collect data to incriminate you never talk. But if it is a simple issue...Well, sometimes it pays to pretend to be the cops buddy, as long as you cannot get into trouble for something. *Don't take that stupid prison saying "Don't snitch" too far though. YES if you are in prison, DON'T F-ING SNITCH!!! But on the street, if you see a real crime report it as is your civic duty! You are not helping society by refusing to tell the Police where the rapist/murder is. Something to think about anyway. |
Omega
(OP) User ID: 340280 United States 05/22/2009 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its going to be so fucking funny omega when you try and act like a punk with the cops and they beat your stupid ass to a pulp. Quoting: Public Works 685128Never happened biatch. They have a tendency to back the fuck up when they run into someone with my intellectual capacity and knowledge of the law. Of course I don't get belligerent with them just back them into a corner with their own bullshit. Oh and BTW. Fuck off. Yep, also helps to talk slow and precise, they wont know what to do, they are so used to people going off the hook they don't know how to react to a smart person. EXACTLY . Calm. Cool. Collected. Rational. And don't argue with them. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 685130 Canada 05/22/2009 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its going to be so fucking funny omega when you try and act like a punk with the cops and they beat your stupid ass to a pulp. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 685109Never happened biatch. They have a tendency to back the fuck up when they run into someone with my intellectual capacity and knowledge of the law. Of course I don't get belligerent with them just back them into a corner with their own bullshit. Oh and BTW. Fuck off. i envy the cop who gets to stick their foot thru your skull. i bet all the BOOLLITS that youve collected wont do you any good when you are screaming like a bitch with 50,000 volts going through your decrepit body. please take your camcorder along so we can all watch and enjoy. I am fucking your woman in the ass right now on your bed and your fav pillow..... |
Omega
(OP) User ID: 340280 United States 05/22/2009 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you have to use your own judgment on this one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 500063If you are guilty NEVER talk, that is good advice. If you are innocent and they seem to be trying to frame you or collect data to incriminate you never talk. But if it is a simple issue...Well, sometimes it pays to pretend to be the cops buddy, as long as you cannot get into trouble for something. *Don't take that stupid prison saying "Don't snitch" too far though. YES if you are in prison, DON'T F-ING SNITCH!!! But on the street, if you see a real crime report it as is your civic duty! You are not helping society by refusing to tell the Police where the rapist/murder is. Something to think about anyway. I can see your point however if you MUST volunteer information about some crime (and you were not the victim) merely exercise common sense and be careful what you say as they are looking to pin any such crime on someone, just make sure you give don't give them any inclination to pin it on you. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Intellectually Culled. User ID: 683232 United States 05/22/2009 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks for the sober reminder he he Quoting: OmegaAm I free to go? thank you officer you are THE MAN bro Thanks. Many say am I under arrest? Don't plant ideas in their tiny little minds. It's always AM I FREE TO GO? There is an additional question to be asked as well: AM I BEING DETAINED? |
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(OP) User ID: 340280 United States 05/22/2009 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks for the sober reminder he he Quoting: Intellectually Culled. 683232Am I free to go? thank you officer you are THE MAN bro Thanks. Many say am I under arrest? Don't plant ideas in their tiny little minds. It's always AM I FREE TO GO? There is an additional question to be asked as well: AM I BEING DETAINED? Yes I hear you I typically would not ask that unless a certain period of time had elapsed, maybe 10-15 minutes, as it still plants a negative connotation in their tiny little minds. YMMV. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Omega
(OP) User ID: 340280 United States 05/22/2009 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is that idea applied in the real world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684933It took him a little time, but he made his point and they knew it. Great video for all interested in this topic. Yeah this guy backs them the fuck up. ;>) Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17061 United States 05/22/2009 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for that crap about refusing to take responsibility for dui. and he call it 'republic is lost'. what a fuck! I think the comment that you're actually referring to is the fact that people can take a forcibly take a piece of your body from you without your consent. Used in that context, his comment makes perfect sense. |
LeopardSanctuary
User ID: 685099 Canada 05/22/2009 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Definition of rural police: Haughty whiners that like breaking glass doors of foreclosed homes and selling stolen property at auctions. Brother sun, intuition moon. Home at the forest. Sure every post I have mentions goat blood...How do you think we get plasma tv's? Organic needs are being assaulted. I'm not amused by this & encourage all to grow heirloom seed for themselves. The garden gives greatest power. Diabetes curing food list [Forget the FDA - Think for yourself]: Thread: Every item recently recalled by FDA for salmonella has diabetic healing also prostate Big Pharma rids their competition |
Winningjob
User ID: 385114 United States 05/22/2009 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Say nothing...I agree and yes, don't fall for the tactics or questions. However, my concern is that all of that has changed since the PATRIOT Act...now they CAN seize belongings and do things without warrants. So far, it has yet to get out of hand, but the power is there...rather we lost a lot of the rights we once had. |
Omega
(OP) User ID: 340280 United States 05/22/2009 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for that crap about refusing to take responsibility for dui. and he call it 'republic is lost'. what a fuck! I think the comment that you're actually referring to is the fact that people can take a forcibly take a piece of your body from you without your consent. Used in that context, his comment makes perfect sense. That is correct. I don't advocate drunk driving and hey, I've done it however I am a professional. ;>) For the State to take your blood forcibly is beyond the pale. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 552934 United States 05/22/2009 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for that crap about refusing to take responsibility for dui. and he call it 'republic is lost'. what a fuck! Quoting: OmegaI think the comment that you're actually referring to is the fact that people can take a forcibly take a piece of your body from you without your consent. Used in that context, his comment makes perfect sense. That is correct. I don't advocate drunk driving and hey, I've done it however I am a professional. ;>) For the State to take your blood forcibly is beyond the pale. i agree. but taking your blood forcibly comes after you refuse to take in-site tests. how do you expect to eliminate drunk drivers from the roads if everybody could refuse to be tested? |
Intellectually Culled. User ID: 683232 United States 05/22/2009 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks for the sober reminder he he Quoting: OmegaAm I free to go? thank you officer you are THE MAN bro Thanks. Many say am I under arrest? Don't plant ideas in their tiny little minds. It's always AM I FREE TO GO? There is an additional question to be asked as well: AM I BEING DETAINED? Yes I hear you I typically would not ask that unless a certain period of time had elapsed, maybe 10-15 minutes, as it still plants a negative connotation in their tiny little minds. YMMV. Thank you for the added clarity, Omega. I have not interacted with you before on this forum. Although my posts are rather enigmatic. |
LeopardSanctuary
User ID: 685099 Canada 05/22/2009 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turn off the radio! There aren't that many drunk drivers. There are far more speeders than drunk drivers. how do you expect to eliminate drunk drivers from the roads if everybody could refuse to be tested? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 552934Brother sun, intuition moon. Home at the forest. Sure every post I have mentions goat blood...How do you think we get plasma tv's? Organic needs are being assaulted. I'm not amused by this & encourage all to grow heirloom seed for themselves. The garden gives greatest power. Diabetes curing food list [Forget the FDA - Think for yourself]: Thread: Every item recently recalled by FDA for salmonella has diabetic healing also prostate Big Pharma rids their competition |
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Omega
(OP) User ID: 340280 United States 05/22/2009 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Howdy O: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 659133What is it with you attracting trolls and libratards? Hey bro. This is easy street man. Several years ago I had a couple of hundred, lmao.... Hope you are healing up well brother... Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
14WORDS
User ID: 685080 United States 05/22/2009 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you have to use your own judgment on this one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 500063If you are guilty NEVER talk, that is good advice. If you are innocent and they seem to be trying to frame you or collect data to incriminate you never talk. But if it is a simple issue...Well, sometimes it pays to pretend to be the cops buddy, as long as you cannot get into trouble for something. *Don't take that stupid prison saying "Don't snitch" too far though. YES if you are in prison, DON'T F-ING SNITCH!!! But on the street, if you see a real crime report it as is your civic duty! You are not helping society by refusing to tell the Police where the rapist/murder is. Something to think about anyway. I must disagree. NEVER talk to a cop. Period. Whether you are guilty or innocent don't matter. They have the evidence they have, and you won't know what that is until after discovery, if even then. Your friendly chat with them won't help if you are innocent, and it will hurt you if you are guilty. The only talking that should be done is by your competent attorney. "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson "The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil." - Ted Nugent "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." -Unknown |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 326376 United States 05/22/2009 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpted from the seminal work Unintended Consequences by John Ross. Quoting: OmegaThere is an important lesson here. Read it. You are not compelled at Law to say ANYTHING to the police. What you say will be used as the rope to hang you with. All's I ever say to the police is : Here is my ID And: Am I free to go? FYI. "You know about Joe Columbo's attempted murder?" Henry broke in. "What? No. Who's that?" "One of the most instructive events in American history. A lawyer friend of mine thinks it should be taught in grade school. Ah...here we go," Henry said as his malt was delivered. "Damn, these are good," he said, savoring the first few sips. "Where was I? Oh yes—Joe Columbo and the guy that tried to kill him. "Joe Columbo was a big wheel in the organization in New York City in the early '60s. Some other big wheel or wheels decided to take over Joe's part of the business. He or they hired a contract killer—some black guy—to shoot Joe in the middle of a New York City parade. I don't know what they paid the guy, promised him, or threatened him with, but he did it. Shot Joe Columbo in the middle of the parade, just like he was supposed to. Didn't kill him, but left him paralyzed and confined to a wheelchair. A few thousand witnesses were there to see it, and a couple or three television cameras filmed it as well." Henry took another sip of his malt and smiled. "What happened next is the interesting part. "As soon as the black guy shoots and paralyzes Columbo, five big Sicilian gentlemen jump on top of him. The black guy is buried underneath them. Don't forget—cameras are filming all this. Okay, so there's this big dogpile of six people, and all of a sudden, Whump! Whump! Two muffled shots. The five guys stand up, and there's one dead black guy lying on the ground with two .38 slugs in him, and a .38 revolver lying on the ground next to him. Smith & Wesson, I think it was. "Anyway, the serial numbers on the gun have been destroyed with a punch, and every place on the gun that the shooter would have touched is wrapped with friction tape, including the trigger. "Cops haul in the five big Sicilians, find out all of 'em test positive on the nitrate test. Also find out none of 'em have Social Security numbers. Guess which one they decided to charge with the murder of the black guy?" "Uh...I have no idea," Cindy said. "Neither did the cops. So they let them all go." "What?" "They let them all go. Had to. Not one of the Sicilians said anything. Not one single word. Soon as one of them claimed something—anything—the cops could go to work on that one thing, find out if it was true or not, get the guy on the stand, nail him for perjury if nothing else, whatever. Take hold of the one loose thread and unravel the whole cloth. But there was no loose thread." "What about that test?" "It tests for nitrates, which are found in both gunpowder and fertilizer. Cops knew if they looked hard enough, they'd find someone who'd seen all five of the men carrying bags of fertilizer that day. Even without the fertilizer, proving all five of them shot a gun since their last bath doesn't make them guilty of murder. State had no case. They had to let all five of them go." Good read. I loaned mine to my Dr. who got Alzheimer's and now i will never see it again. it's scary to contemplate for citizens and for cops who know what their oath is to Dude! Good Point! |
Omega
(OP) User ID: 340280 United States 05/22/2009 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good read. I loaned mine to my Dr. who got Alzheimer's and now i will never see it again. it's scary to contemplate for citizens and for cops who know what their oath is to Dude! Good Point! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326376Thanks!!!! Hey in case you wanna read it again....in .pdf.... [link to ponyhugs.blogspot.com] Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Omega
(OP) User ID: 340280 United States 05/22/2009 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I must disagree. Quoting: 14WORDSNEVER talk to a cop. Period. Whether you are guilty or innocent don't matter. They have the evidence they have, and you won't know what that is until after discovery, if even then. Your friendly chat with them won't help if you are innocent, and it will hurt you if you are guilty. The only talking that should be done is by your competent attorney. And I thought I was hard core brother..... :5: Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 326376 United States 05/22/2009 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its going to be so fucking funny omega when you try and act like a punk with the cops and they beat your stupid ass to a pulp. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 685130Never happened biatch. They have a tendency to back the fuck up when they run into someone with my intellectual capacity and knowledge of the law. Of course I don't get belligerent with them just back them into a corner with their own bullshit. Oh and BTW. Fuck off. i envy the cop who gets to stick their foot thru your skull. i bet all the BOOLLITS that youve collected wont do you any good when you are screaming like a bitch with 50,000 volts going through your decrepit body. please take your camcorder along so we can all watch and enjoy. I am fucking your woman in the ass right now on your bed and your fav pillow..... As a veteran cop i can say he is right. Some of these Post-911 world rookies wish they could go play in Iraq and I do too. I and the people I worked with have never shit n people like that but you can never win arguing and saying " You can't"....A cop knows exactly WHAT he can and can't do and a good one will do only what he lawfully can....some others may not...There is a disease in this country and young gullible guys buy it. Just cause you got some Danner Fort lewis boots ...that don't make you an airborne ranger. Also the cop may just want to ask you if you ever sqw this ex offender who is ssupposed to be but ain't living on your street. i stop all the time ans ask people "Hey...you got a minute" i always get yeah man what's up...in the hood or in the yuppie scum neighborhoods. It's all in how you yteat peoppl;e and I was taught way back when "Be as nice as you can for as long as you can. Except for one lady in a hurry to take her kid to day care i have had no one refuse to talk to me...even a group of homies satndin' up on the corner lookin'' when i just ask them what i want to know. if you are guilty you shouldn't be where the poleeces are still. LOL...you should be gone...OMEGA Is right especially depending on what dept or which offficer you may run into. If it's the feds don't say shit!!!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 669374 United States 05/22/2009 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is that idea applied in the real world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684933It took him a little time, but he made his point and they knew it. Great video for all interested in this topic. That was insane to watch. They kept trying to trap him and wear him down. I have a feeling I would have messed up at some point trying to pull that off. I didn't know he could refuse to give his ID like that? |
14WORDS
User ID: 685080 United States 05/22/2009 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I must disagree. Quoting: OmegaNEVER talk to a cop. Period. Whether you are guilty or innocent don't matter. They have the evidence they have, and you won't know what that is until after discovery, if even then. Your friendly chat with them won't help if you are innocent, and it will hurt you if you are guilty. The only talking that should be done is by your competent attorney. And I thought I was hard core brother..... :5: I can't think of many folks who ended up fubar'd by following this plan, but I know of a few who ended up in over their heads by trying to be friendly, helpful, or talk their way out of something. "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson "The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil." - Ted Nugent "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." -Unknown |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 532897 United States 05/22/2009 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've worked in law for over 30 years. Cops lies their ass off. The Feds are the worse. One testified in court last week for three hours about a shooting (a bond hearing, anything, even hearsay, is admitted). It was all bullshit. The judge had to leave for the day so he wasn't cross examined until the next morning. Needless to say, under cross, with actual evidence presented to him he looked like an absolute fool. Even the Judge laughed at his ass. Sometimes we win, but usually we lose. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 684513 United States 05/22/2009 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its going to be so fucking funny omega when you try and act like a punk with the cops and they beat your stupid ass to a pulp. Quoting: OmegaNever happened biatch. They have a tendency to back the fuck up when they run into someone with my intellectual capacity and knowledge of the law. Of course I don't get belligerent with them just back them into a corner with their own bullshit. Oh and BTW. Fuck off. |
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Omega
(OP) User ID: 340280 United States 05/22/2009 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've worked in law for over 30 years. Cops lies their ass off. The Feds are the worse. One testified in court last week for three hours about a shooting (a bond hearing, anything, even hearsay, is admitted). It was all bullshit. The judge had to leave for the day so he wasn't cross examined until the next morning. Needless to say, under cross, with actual evidence presented to him he looked like an absolute fool. Even the Judge laughed at his ass. Sometimes we win, but usually we lose. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 532897:5: Fight the good fight brother!!! Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |