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meroj User ID: 538750 United States 10/31/2008 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who wants to take a bet the "ink" is found to be less ancient than the "pottery"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 537593and yes, i'm sure bedhouins in the area call it david's tomb. the mexicans call tijuana "montezuma's (sp) revenge" What ancient line are you from ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 455898 United Kingdom 10/31/2008 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shouldn't this be more valuable to you? I mean, it is your ancestors city and you are Ashkenazi, so why don't you celebrate that find and leave the land of Israel to the true Israelites. [link to shine.yahoo.com] |
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User ID: 534566 Canada 10/31/2008 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its a another part of Bluebeam project going on. Project Blue Beam is a supposed covert project involving NASA and the United Nations. It consists of a plan involving four steps that stage an artificial Second Coming to establish a "one world religion" controlled by a New World Order. Include Four Steps The first step: concerns the breakdown of all archaeological knowledge. It deals with staging earthquakes at certain precise locations around the planet where supposed new "discoveries" will finally explain (for them) that the meaning of the basic doctrines of all the world's major religions are "wrong." |
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Daam User ID: 355814 United Kingdom 10/31/2008 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you explain what has that got to do with you and about 80% of Israelis? It has nothing to do with you people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 455898Shouldn't this be more valuable to you? I mean, it is your ancestors city and you are Ashkenazi, so why don't you celebrate that find and leave the land of Israel to the true Israelites. [link to shine.yahoo.com] Gaia isnt ashkenazi, all the ashkenazis are in the upper echelons. Gaia seems to be your run of the mill jew - is that right Gaia? Anyway, why always all this talk of israel et al? Seems to be there are new pro/anti jew/israel threads started everyday. Who cares, really? I mean, the ones at the top dont care about religion, thats just something that is designed for us, the grass-roots peoples to be arguing over - why bother? Terrorism is a fallacy. There are no real terrorists. By the way, i'm not intending to flame you or anything Gaia. ;o) |
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User ID: 507586 United States 11/11/2008 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you explain what has that got to do with you and about 80% of Israelis? It has nothing to do with you people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 455898Shouldn't this be more valuable to you? I mean, it is your ancestors city and you are Ashkenazi, so why don't you celebrate that find and leave the land of Israel to the true Israelites. [link to shine.yahoo.com] wow a cool archeology thread and you use it as a political anti-jewish rant good job dude. You have been trained well. I be tit sucks for you that the Jews have 4000 years of history there its hard for you to confuse the subject and justify why they should be eradicated or given lands in new mexico to start a state. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -Robert A. Heinlein Carthago delenda est |
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User ID: 506689 United States 11/11/2008 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you explain what has that got to do with you and about 80% of Israelis? It has nothing to do with you people. Quoting: Focal PointShouldn't this be more valuable to you? I mean, it is your ancestors city and you are Ashkenazi, so why don't you celebrate that find and leave the land of Israel to the true Israelites. [link to shine.yahoo.com] wow a cool archeology thread and you use it as a political anti-jewish rant good job dude. You have been trained well. I be tit sucks for you that the Jews have 4000 years of history there its hard for you to confuse the subject and justify why they should be eradicated or given lands in new mexico to start a state. Kind of off-topic, but not really... I wonder how many people automatically discount Gaia's posts because she's Jewish, and I wonder how many others instinctively defend her because they fall in love with her avatars? Just sayin'. Interesting thing, these avs... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 548139 United States 11/11/2008 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This part of the world is blessed with a written history that gives a window into the past like no other can. Places like Egypt also has well preserved records of our world, some of which have not yet been discovered or fully studied and understood. The prospect of future finds like this, gives hope for answers to universal questions about our past and future. |
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User ID: 507586 United States 11/11/2008 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you explain what has that got to do with you and about 80% of Israelis? It has nothing to do with you people. Quoting: DestroyerOfLiesShouldn't this be more valuable to you? I mean, it is your ancestors city and you are Ashkenazi, so why don't you celebrate that find and leave the land of Israel to the true Israelites. [link to shine.yahoo.com] wow a cool archeology thread and you use it as a political anti-jewish rant good job dude. You have been trained well. I be tit sucks for you that the Jews have 4000 years of history there its hard for you to confuse the subject and justify why they should be eradicated or given lands in new mexico to start a state. Kind of off-topic, but not really... I wonder how many people automatically discount Gaia's posts because she's Jewish, and I wonder how many others instinctively defend her because they fall in love with her avatars? Just sayin'. Interesting thing, these avs... wasnt really trying to hijack just responding to the other guys opportunist attack. I love the archealogy threads and ancient lore. I could care less about Gaia's feminine qualities im older and no longer delude myself to that extent, on the other hand i think people use Gaias threads to attack jews or further their anti-israeli positions. Kind of like the attention PACNW guy gets. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -Robert A. Heinlein Carthago delenda est |
The Monk User ID: 515245 United States 11/11/2008 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oldest Hebrew Text Discovered at King David's Border Fortress by Gil Ronen Quoting: ~GAIA~(IsraelNN.com) Archaeologists have discovered what they say is the oldest Hebrew text ever found, at a site they believe was King David's front line fortress in the war against the people of Pleshet, also known as the Philistines. The site overlooks the Elah Valley, where the young David slew Goliath, the Philistine giant, with a well-aimed shot from a sling. The text is written in ink on a pottery shard. It is made up of five lines of text in Proto-Canaanite characters separated by lines. The discovery, by archaeologists Prof. Yossi Garfinkel and Sa'ar Ganor of Hebrew University, is being hailed as one of the most important finds in Israel since the Dead Sea Scrolls. Carbon-14 dates to King David "The writing predates the Dead Sea Scrolls by about 1,000 years." The writing on the shard seems to be a letter sent from one person to another and archaeologists have still not deciphered it completely. Preliminary analysis shows that it contains the words "king" (melech), "judge" (shofet), and "eved" (slave), but the terms seem to be parts of names, as in "Achimelech" or "Evedel" (lit. "King's brother," "Servant of God"). Carbon-14 dating as well as chemical analysis of the pottery found at the site shows conclusively that it dates from between 1,000 and 975 B.C. – the time of King David's reign. David – who wrote the Psalms, unified the tribes of Israel and made Jerusalem the capital of the Israeli nation – is considered to be Israel's greatest King, whose reign ushered in the period in which the First Temple was built. The writing therefore predates the Dead Sea Scrolls by about 1,000 years. 'David's ruins' "The local Bedouins refer to it as… are you sitting down?... Khirbet Daudi - David's ruins." The site where the shard was found is known as Khirbet Kheyafa, but Rabbi Barnea Selavan of the Foundation Stone organization says that "the local Bedouins refer to it as… are you sitting down?... Khirbet Daudi." The word khirbeh in Arabic refers to a ruin and Daudi is Arabic for David. Also known as the Ela Fortress because of its location at the Elah Valley near Beit Shemesh, archaeologists believe the fortress controlled a strategic point overlooking the main route connecting Pleshet and the Judean lowland with the mountainous region and the central cities of Jerusalem and Hevron. The ancient point of settlement covers more than four acres and is surrounded by a 700 meter long wall. Archaeologists believe that 200,000 tons of rock were mined in order to build it. The wall contains a massive and ornate gate built from hewn rock. Stoned in the head According to Selavan, there was some debate among archeologists as to whether the fortress was the Jewish front line against the Philistines or the opposite – the Philistines' front line against the Jews. However, there is now widespread agreement that the site was Jewish: there are no pig bones and chemical analysis (petrography) of the ceramics found there shows that the structure was Jewish, not the Philistine's. The Elah Valley is the site at which Jewish and Philistine armies faced each other in one of the most glorious battles ever: the fateful victory in which David killed Goliath with a stone to the forehead. The Bible describes the location (in 1 Samuel, 17:2-3) thus: And Saul and the men of Israel were gathered together, and pitched by the valley of Elah, and set the battle in array against the Philistines. And the Philistines stood on a mountain on the one side, and Israel stood on a mountain on the other side: and there was a valley between them. The digs at the spot have been underwritten by the Berman Center Biblical Archeology Hebrew University, the Brennan Foundation and Corner Stone, which is turning the site into an educational attraction and invites the public to participate in the digs. [link to www.israelnationalnews.com] There was no such thing as a "Jew" during that time period. They were Israelites, descendents of the Hyksos people that worshipped Isis, Ra and El. Jews evolved from the Judahites and Benjamites after the nation of Israel was ethnically cleansed out of the northern territories. The Judahites and Benjamites remained behind in Jerusalem and later evolved into "Jews" by Jesus' time. |
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User ID: 508530 United States 11/11/2008 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It says... Quoting: Prof_Rabbit"Frank's Pottery works, good enough for Kings and judges, cheap enough for slaves!" Would that be "Frankoma?" An Original out of Oklahoma. Big fan! I have several pieces... Great find OP, let's ponder what this could mean. Where the minds goes, the body follows |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 548978 Germany 11/11/2008 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just want to mention that there exist(ed?) a big counterfeit business for such items. Many similar finds like an inscription form the temple wall and the infamous James ossuary have been discovered to be fake. Don't know about this one yet. |
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Anonymous Coward #? User ID: 539053 United States 11/11/2008 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gaia, Thanks for posting this, it's fascinating. I'm a Christian, but I firmly believe that the Jewish People are God's Chosen who will be Kings and Priests to the Most High during the 1000 year Earthly Kingdom following The Time of Jacob's Trouble. I have been watching to see if the Ark of the Covenant is found. I don't mean as in Indiana Jones type of thing, but because according to the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John around 90 AD, we are told that Temple Worship will be going on for the last Seven Years before Messiah returns. You see, that's why we know the Bible is true, ISRAEL. God has gathered the dry bones back together again and is about to breathe life into them. We are just waiting for HIS time, and it will come. Unfortunately, the world will fall into chaos and a man will come to political power during this time who will even call himself the Messiah; however, he will be a false prophet controlled by Satan who will defile the temple 3 and a half years after the treaty with Israel and this man's super-power government is signed. He will enter the temple and declare himself to be god. I'm not talking about the Left Behind junk, that's humanistic nonsense. I hope you will be aware. God created this world with his voice, called it into being Baruch (sp). Humans are no match for the evil one and we lost dominion over the planet when Adam sinned. That's why we long for Messiah, our Kinsman Redeemer who paid the price for our inability to keep God's law. The life is in the blood and the wages of sin is death. I point you to worship the creator {YWHW}, not the creation, Gaia. Remember HIM, because HE loves You more than you could ever know. Ask HIM, just ASK. |
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