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France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"

 
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France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"
This just in: France is not macron, just like Canada is not Trudeau!!! I will be using italics below when I quote the guy.

America fell in the Trap set by the nationalistic ukrainians and lost out of ineptitude and because they did not realize they did not have the industrial means to sustain a war against Russia in the long term.

We must stop the lies about President Putin:



This French historian did his research about President Putin and, like millions of us here/throughout the world, realized that the Western media is lying to us about him, and when he presented the facts, he was dismissed by the left wing trash over there, calling him Putin-o-phile.


1:43"I am constantly confronted by people who refuse to believe that I am a historian and that I am serious about the research that I do, and who simply dismiss me, calling me a Putinophile, when they clearly are Putinophobes themselves. You need to learn who your adversary is, to learn what his country is about otherwise you disarm yourself."

He also states that NATO has lost the war in Ukraine and that the Pentagon knows it. It is a defeat for the West without being a win for Russia.

dance

he says that the goal of NATO was to prevent the unification of Germany with Russia because the USA felt threatened by that Alliance.
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He also talks very technically about the rise of protestant religion in the west which was behind the rise of the western world, and speaks of its downfall being caused by the downfall {my summary or paraphrase} of the Protestant religion which has become a zombie religion becoming or being behind the decline of society if I understand his meaning. What is talking about here is a little bit complicated but he says nihilism succeeds Protestantism then he moves on talking about Trump. 6:58

It says the mistake that Americans are making is the division between Trump and Biden Democrats and Republicans which is allowing the rise of nihilism in USA which is the successor of the Protestant religion. And this is the decline of morality in USA. He speaks of Trump as an evengelist and says that evangelism isn't really true protestantism and that it is heresy.
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Circa 8:09 he claims that Trump armed Ukraine and provided them with javelin missiles.

wowey
IS this true?
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Thank you for the five stars rating I appreciate it it is interesting to see how other countries are seeing the global happenings

oh rats! he spoke the truth!

if only President Trump had known the mess that would get us into!!

The top return When I Googled "Did Trump sell Javelin missiles to Ukraine" is this ABC:
The Trump administration first approved the sale of Javelins to Ukraine in 2017. Catch up on the developing stories making headlines. The Trump administration has approved the $39 million sale of defensive lethal weapons to Ukraine, according to two U.S. officials and another source familiar with the plan.1 Oct 2019


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In president Trump's defense I also found this:

Trump Resisted Sale of Javelins to Ukraine
Republicans are defending him in the impeachment inquiry by saying he gave more military aid than his predecessor, but it came only after the reluctant president was convinced it would be good for U.S. business.

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Um Ukraine is a sovereign country like many former USSR colonies or WW2 trophies, they gave up their nukes for independence.

Also ONE historian doesn't equal France's populous... doh!

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Ah, the "Putin intentionally launched a badly-planned invasion and lost thousands of tanks and hundreds of thousands of troops on purpose " 10-D chess theory of retardism.
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Ah, the "Putin intentionally launched a badly-planned invasion and lost thousands of tanks and hundreds of thousands of troops on purpose " 10-D chess theory of retardism.
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9:10 even if Trump wins it's not going to change anything for Ukraine in fact when one reached the text in the original Russian we realize that Russia couldn't care less whether biden or Trump wins, because it's not going to change anything so far as they're concerned.

What interests Russians is the state of degradation of the American industrial military [weapons.] What interests the Russians it's the American weakness of their military state and knowing that in 3, 4, 5 years recruiting [soldiers] is going to be very tough for USA. So when you look at this you understand the Russians couldn't care less about American elections they care about winning the war within 5 years, and we are going to refuse all negotiations.
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LOL can you imagine the Zilennials going to war!

Interesting opinion about the Russians not caring about the results of American elections unlike what USA would have you believe with interference and all that nonsense; it seems this French guy either reads Russian fluently or has access to excellent translators.
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France wants Statue of Liberty back
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Circa 8:09 he claims that Trump armed Ukraine and provided them with javelin missiles.

wowey
IS this true?
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Re: France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"
I see the libtards are out in full force: I was just reading the French comments and they either do not understand anything or they're the usual brainwashed and /or Lefty idiot trolls.

Anyway Emmanuel Todd goes on to state that there is quite a difference between central and Western Ukraine with the more Russian part of Ukraine, who have nothing in common together,namely Crimea and Donbas which was, as we know here, Russian-speaking and he said that they kind of 'shot themselves in the foot' my paraphrase, because most of those Russophiles moved to Russia and kind of left Crimea and Donbas 'disarmed'.
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France wants Statue of Liberty back
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They deserve it, especially if your idiot zillennial lefties are going to try to topple it too, since they are against Freedom anyway.
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Computer acting up. I'll finish the rest later probably will have different numbers. I haven't gotten to the part yet where he talks about the lies about President Putin. The interviewer is a complete Lefty dick he is totally uneducated. The historian who is also an anthropologist was invited there to promote his book and the host clearly doesn't know what he's talking about because he didn't bother himself to even read it.
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Um Ukraine is a sovereign country like many former USSR colonies or WW2 trophies, they gave up their nukes for independence.

Also ONE historian doesn't equal France's populous... doh!
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Re: France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"
9:10 even if Trump wins it's not going to change anything for Ukraine in fact when one reached the text in the original Russian we realize that Russia couldn't care less whether biden or Trump wins, because it's not going to change anything so far as they're concerned.

What interests Russians is the state of degradation of the American industrial military [weapons.] What interests the Russians it's the American weakness of their military state and knowing that in 3, 4, 5 years recruiting [soldiers] is going to be very tough for USA. So when you look at this you understand the Russians couldn't care less about American elections they care about winning the war within 5 years, and we are going to refuse all negotiations.
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LOL can you imagine the Zilennials going to war!

Interesting opinion about the Russians not caring about the results of American elections unlike what USA would have you believe with interference and all that nonsense; it seems this French guy either reads Russian fluently or has access to excellent translators.
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He's right. We really don't care at all about both Trump and Biden.
And I think he himself is well versed in Russian. Many French people his age have studied Russian since childhood.
At the school I went to, every year kids from France would come and study with us. They studied physics, mathematics, literature in Russian.
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Re: France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"
Circa 8:09 he claims that Trump armed Ukraine and provided them with javelin missiles.

wowey
IS this true?
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I surely hope not
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France wants Statue of Liberty back
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They deserve it, especially if your idiot zillennial lefties are going to try to topple it too, since they are against Freedom anyway.
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It’s just a trans looking white anyway. Send it back.
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I support Putin too. I sure don't support the evil Americans like Biden who poured petrol on this war to make money.
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France wants Statue of Liberty back
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They deserve it, especially if your idiot zillennial lefties are going to try to topple it too, since they are against Freedom anyway.
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It’s just a trans looking white anyway. Send it back.
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Meant trans whore … was autocorrected.

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Thanks for translating.
I could figure it out, but French gives me a headache.
Once I drove a French girl from Santa Fe to San Diego.
It was hell.
Her accent even gave me a headache.
And her cigarettes.

It always troubles me that so many people really don’t want to challenge their own beliefs.
Thanks again for sharing in english!
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Circa 8:09 he claims that Trump armed Ukraine and provided them with javelin missiles.

wowey
IS this true?
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Yes, it is true. The orange bastard bragged about it.
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Re: France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"
He also talks very technically about the rise of protestant religion in the west which was behind the rise of the western world, and speaks of its downfall being caused by the downfall {my summary or paraphrase} of the Protestant religion which has become a zombie religion becoming or being behind the decline of society if I understand his meaning. What is talking about here is a little bit complicated but he says nihilism succeeds Protestantism then he moves on talking about Trump. 6:58

It says the mistake that Americans are making is the division between Trump and Biden Democrats and Republicans which is allowing the rise of nihilism in USA which is the successor of the Protestant religion. And this is the decline of morality in USA. He speaks of Trump as an evengelist and says that evangelism isn't really true protestantism and that it is heresy.
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No.

Jews.
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Re: France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"
Um Ukraine is a sovereign country like many former USSR colonies or WW2 trophies, they gave up their nukes for independence.

Also ONE historian doesn't equal France's populous... doh!
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Ukraine is part of Russia, the Rus were formed in Kiev and only Galicia and western border were not. You are a shill and/or dumbass. Could be both
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Um Ukraine is a sovereign country like many former USSR colonies or WW2 trophies, they gave up their nukes for independence.

Also ONE historian doesn't equal France's populous... doh!
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Ukraine never owned nuclear weapons. Those were Russian owned nukes in Ukraine. Nato requested removal of those Russian nukes.

US organized a nazi coup detat in Kiev (Nuland tapped phonecalls telling who will be in Kiev junta government).

The West destroyed Ukraine sovereignity. The west pressed Kiev for war when Kiev and Moscow talked peace and territorial integrity with Donbass inside Ukraine, in 2022, in exchange for military neutrality.
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Re: France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"
This just in: France is not macron, just like Canada is not Trudeau!!! I will be using italics below when I quote the guy.

America fell in the Trap set by the nationalistic ukrainians and lost out of ineptitude and because they did not realize they did not have the industrial means to sustain a war against Russia in the long term.

We must stop the lies about President Putin:



This French historian did his research about President Putin and, like millions of us here/throughout the world, realized that the Western media is lying to us about him, and when he presented the facts, he was dismissed by the left wing trash over there, calling him Putin-o-phile.


1:43"I am constantly confronted by people who refuse to believe that I am a historian and that I am serious about the research that I do, and who simply dismiss me, calling me a Putinophile, when they clearly are Putinophobes themselves. You need to learn who your adversary is, to learn what his country is about otherwise you disarm yourself."

He also states that NATO has lost the war in Ukraine and that the Pentagon knows it. It is a defeat for the West without being a win for Russia.

dance

he says that the goal of NATO was to prevent the unification of Germany with Russia because the USA felt threatened by that Alliance.
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Generative AI is experimental. Learn more
Emmanuel Todd is a French historian, sociologist, anthropologist, demographer, and political scientist. He was born on May 16, 1951 and works at the National Institute of Demographic Studies (INED) in Paris.
Todd's research interests include religion, ideology, modern societies, and familial structures. He is considered a leading French intellectual and left-wing historian

Todd, who has in the past been critical of the western international order, wrote a book called After the Empire: The Breakdown of the American Order more than 20 years ago. During the interview, he expanded on his thesis, saying that “the resistance of the Russian economy [to sanctions] is pushing the American imperial system towards the precipice.” He added that, if Russia “managed to exhaust the European economy, while maintaining Chinese backing, American monetary and financial controls of the world would collapse, and with them the possibility for the United States to fund their huge trade deficit for nothing.”

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How many Russian tanks has Ukraine destroyed in the war?
Russia's forces in Ukraine have lost more than 6,000 tanks in nearly 23 months of war, according to Kyiv's military, as the grueling war shows few signs of coming to an end in 2024. Moscow has lost 6,002 main battle tanks since February 2022, Ukraine's armed forces said on Thursday.Jan 4, 2024

How much of Russia's military has been destroyed?
Russia has lost 87% of troops it had prior to start of Ukraine war, according to US intelligence assessment. File photo showing Russian tanks taking part in a military drills at Molkino training ground in the Krasnodar region, Russia, Tuesday, Dec. 14, 2021.Dec 12, 2023

How many Russian aircraft have been destroyed?
In all, some 100 aircraft and more than 130 helicopters have been shot down or damaged on the ground in bombing raids, according to the specialist website Oryx. This includes 24 Sukhoi Su-34 fighter-bombers, 31 Sukhoi Su-25 ground-attack aircraft, and two Tupolev Tu-22 strategic bombers.6 days ago

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As of November 17, 2023, Ukraine's military claims to have destroyed 15 Russian naval vessels and damaged another 12 in the Black Sea.
In April 2022, Ukraine sank the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea Fleet flagship, off the Ukrainian coast.


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Russia Lost 90 Percent of Its Prewar Army, Military Modernization Set Back 18 Years, US Intelligence Says



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Re: France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"
Thanks for translating.
I could figure it out, but French gives me a headache.
Once I drove a French girl from Santa Fe to San Diego.
It was hell.
Her accent even gave me a headache.
And her cigarettes.

It always troubles me that so many people really don’t want to challenge their own beliefs.
Thanks again for sharing in english!
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I am glad you are enjoying it and your gratitude is, in turn, appreciated. hf

27:42 everywhere I see magazine covers with 'the Trump Menace, the Trump threat' repeatedly but Trump *is* America, so the covers ought to read 'the American threat'. I don't disagree Trump is a threat but biden is also a threat! they say Trump lies all the time but the Democrats lie all the time as well. The Democrat party is completely corrupted and leaves nothing to be envied by the Republicans.

the idiot Lefty journalist starts to interrupt him with Putin and the journalist says that:

I study populations and populations that are declining, especially which are at risk of declining very rapidly in their youth demographics, cannot become imperialist it is impossible, just like with Japan that has a decreasing population,and the same with China and the same with Germany which is very much threatened by migrrahh--- .

At this point he is interrupted by the idiot who says do you think it's American imperialism? a bit out of left field and the historian says no because America, before the Ukraine war was in defensive mode, and America is threatened by the internal destabilization of its Society
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Re: France supports Putin! "The Pentagon fell in the Trap of Ukraine - we must stop lying about President Putin!"
Um Ukraine is a sovereign country like many former USSR colonies or WW2 trophies, they gave up their nukes for independence.

Also ONE historian doesn't equal France's populous... doh!
 Quoting: Don Juan


Ukraine never owned nuclear weapons. Those were Russian owned nukes in Ukraine. Nato requested removal of those Russian nukes.

US organized a nazi coup detat in Kiev (Nuland tapped phonecalls telling who will be in Kiev junta government).

The West destroyed Ukraine sovereignity. The west pressed Kiev for war when Kiev and Moscow talked peace and territorial integrity with Donbass inside Ukraine, in 2022, in exchange for military neutrality.
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And Ukraine had no codes for these nuclear weapons.


Ukraine could not have used them, even if they wanted to.


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