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(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 08/24/2022 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Lord you still haven't read up on John Darby writings ? That's where the rapture theory came from. This wasn't even taught at all until like a hundred years ago. It's false teaching and just stupid...and yes, I believed it once ...I went on a fast for thirty days ( for my health too plus I quit smoking then) with lots of prayer plus research...came away knowing the truth. If you still believe this garbage, you are not growing and progressing spiritually. Quoting: Quarterbreedgal I have a confession to make. Apart perhaps from seeing a few passages here and there on the internet, I've never even read any of Darby's or Scofield's writings, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76870401 United States 08/24/2022 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the deal. If I read the Bible for itself, I see no mention anywhere of a pre-trib rapture. Support only comes from the doctrines of men such as scofield, darby, hal lindsey, fat man hagee, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76870401 :sweater: WOW! What a hard hitting well thought out post that was. I guess we must all bow to your oh-so-superior wisdom. You can be a smartaleck all you want. I go by the Bible and not scofield. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76870401 United States 08/24/2022 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Lord you still haven't read up on John Darby writings ? That's where the rapture theory came from. This wasn't even taught at all until like a hundred years ago. It's false teaching and just stupid...and yes, I believed it once ...I went on a fast for thirty days ( for my health too plus I quit smoking then) with lots of prayer plus research...came away knowing the truth. If you still believe this garbage, you are not growing and progressing spiritually. Quoting: Quarterbreedgal :reed: I have a confession to make. Apart perhaps from seeing a few passages here and there on the internet, I've never even read any of Darby's or Scofield's writings, And how does that silly picture buttress your arguments? |
Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 08/24/2022 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a good video that should answer many of your questions about the Rapture. This world is on the verge of many great changes which will plunge those who are still here into a living nightmare. You have still been blessed with a little time so don't waste it. And remember that there is no guarantee that you will get a chance to be saved as a Tribulation Saint. A nuclear bomb or some other means can end your life in an instant and leave you facing an eternity in hell. [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76870401 United States 08/24/2022 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Lord you still haven't read up on John Darby writings ? That's where the rapture theory came from. This wasn't even taught at all until like a hundred years ago. It's false teaching and just stupid...and yes, I believed it once ...I went on a fast for thirty days ( for my health too plus I quit smoking then) with lots of prayer plus research...came away knowing the truth. If you still believe this garbage, you are not growing and progressing spiritually. Quoting: Quarterbreedgal :reed: I have a confession to make. Apart perhaps from seeing a few passages here and there on the internet, I've never even read any of Darby's or Scofield's writings, And how does that silly picture buttress your arguments? And by the way, you've just admitted that you don't even know the source of your own doctrinal beliefs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76870401 United States 08/24/2022 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Darby did not create or start the Rapture idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76494602 If you are ong those that say the Rapture is Darby, you are IGNORANT and FALSE. Really? I can find Paul's teachings on the 2nd Coming where those who believe are taken up and transformed. But nowhere can I find a Biblical basis for a pre-trib rapture before a supposed 7-year tribulation. Revelation actually speaks of a 3.5 year tribulation. The 2nd Coming occurs at the end of that tribulation, not before. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76870401 United States 08/24/2022 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Darby did not create or start the Rapture idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76494602 If you are ong those that say the Rapture is Darby, you are IGNORANT and FALSE. Really? I can find Paul's teachings on the 2nd Coming where those who believe are taken up and transformed. But nowhere can I find a Biblical basis for a pre-trib rapture before a supposed 7-year tribulation. Revelation actually speaks of a 3.5 year tribulation. The 2nd Coming occurs at the end of that tribulation, not before. Further, the 2nd Coming does not occur in part A and part B. It is one single event. Or is there a 3rd Coming? There is no Biblical basis for a doctrine of a 3rd Coming. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83956141 United Kingdom 08/24/2022 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :bridec: Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, :brideA: Quoting: Judethz I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Rev 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. I think that by now we can all see that the time of the Great Tribulation/Jacob's Troubles is nearly upon us. If you will not heed the clear words of the Bible, then when the trumpet sounds you will be left behind to be slaughtered in the billions along with all the others who rejected the Lord. With perhaps a small (not guaranteed) chance of becoming a Tribulation Saint. I personally deserve to go to hell just as much as any of you do. The difference is that like all other Christians I have asked Jesus Christ to forgive me of my sins and come into my heart. Remember that the Rapture can happen at any moment, in the twinkling of an eye. You have still been blessed with a little time, so if you have not made your self right with the Lord, turn to Him now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be? :ohlook: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76494602 United States 08/24/2022 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82787158 Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little. Isaiah 28:10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. Revelation 3:10 In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. John 14:2,3 Come, my people, enter your chambers, And shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment, Until the indignation is past. For behold, the LORD comes out of His place To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity; The earth will also disclose her blood, And will no more cover her slain. Isaiah 26:20:21 Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth, Who have upheld His justice. Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden In the day of the LORD's anger. Zephaniah 2:3 For in the time of trouble He shall hide me in His pavilion; In the secret place of His tabernacle He shall hide me; He shall set me high upon a rock. Psalms 27:5 "Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods. But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,' and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 28:44-51 But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man. Luke 21:34-36 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. Romans 11:25 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1Corinthians 15:50-53 It is doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord: I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven. And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 2Corinthians 12:1-4 . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76494602 United States 08/24/2022 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Further, the 2nd Coming does not occur in part A and part B. It is one single event. Or is there a 3rd Coming? There is no Biblical basis for a doctrine of a 3rd Coming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76870401 You do not understand the purpose of the Tribulation. You do not understand that it is not for the Church, but for Israel. You do not understand this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76870401 United States 08/24/2022 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Further, the 2nd Coming does not occur in part A and part B. It is one single event. Or is there a 3rd Coming? There is no Biblical basis for a doctrine of a 3rd Coming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76870401 You do not understand the purpose of the Tribulation. You do not understand that it is not for the Church, but for Israel. You do not understand this. Sorry, but no. You are imposing scofieldism on the Bible. Paul said that there is neither J nor G in Christ. There is no separation. |
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Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 08/24/2022 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So are you just going to sit there scoffing and ignore yet another chance for the salvation of your soul? Last Edited by Judethz on 08/24/2022 12:58 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76870401 United States 08/24/2022 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Further, the 2nd Coming does not occur in part A and part B. It is one single event. Or is there a 3rd Coming? There is no Biblical basis for a doctrine of a 3rd Coming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76870401 You do not understand the purpose of the Tribulation. You do not understand that it is not for the Church, but for Israel. You do not understand this. Sorry, but no. You are imposing scofieldism on the Bible. Paul said that there is neither J nor G in Christ. There is no separation. You know, you are reminding me of a calvinazi. Calvinazis always assume that anyone who disagrees with them is stupid. They can't fathom that people actually do understand and are repulsed by their doctrines. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76870401 United States 08/24/2022 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Biblical Pre-Millennialism is straightforward and easy to understand, while scofieldism is a convoluted mess. Biblical Pre-Millennialism: The world gets worse and worse. God turns man over to his own sin. There is a final period of testing which Revelation says is 1260 days or 42 months or 3.5 years. Then Christ returns and establishes His 1000 year reign on earth, which is followed by the unveiling of the New Heaven and Earth. Pretty simple. None of these unbiblical dispensations or nonsense about how God deals with one ethnic group or pseudo-ethnic group differently than the rest of humanity. God is a universal God. He is the God of all creation, not just of some little sliver. |
Judethz
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egads!
User ID: 83747173 United States 08/24/2022 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's coming soon. as well as the start of the trib the rains came down, noah escaped the waters, same day. Lot was moved to the mountains, and the fire and brimstone fell, same day. get right with God All who call on the name of the Lord will be saved. Acts 2:21 Remember it. A simple Save me Lord Jesus makes all the difference when you're facing the wrong side of eternity. 2/8 Fav Song: HIS NAME IS JESUS [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77576813 Germany 08/24/2022 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We will be taken away like Lot so Gods judgment will fall on all the world. Now the righteous are gone, like God promised Abraham, He will send punishment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84059282 Its weird that almost every rapture tard church pushed and took the vax yes. kinda reminds me of another 'cult' belief system where everyone did indeed leave the world behind alright https://twitter.com/_/status/1558995824922619904 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75336317 United States 08/24/2022 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope. Ain’t gonna happen. You probably took the vaccine and want people to believe you can be raptured. I smoke the pipe but you are dreaming. It’s a sickening lie that actually would make half the Bible not necessary. It totally changes the meaning of “day of the lord”. The purpose is to wake you up, not to tell you that you just sit there and everything will be ok. Do you even understand that the Great Tribulation and the day of the lord and the great reset are all the same.? If you are still here that’s how you measure the time. You probably go to church on Sunday. You are already accepting part of the Mark by attending a false church on the false Sabbath. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83556836 France 08/24/2022 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was popularized in the 70's by Hal Lindsey's writings (The Late Great Planet Earth, etc.) but the concept originated back in 1840 by John Darby, an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher. :judec: That is a dishonest answer because you are treating what the Bible says as if it was of no account. The Rapture was first taught to us at the times when the prophets who wrote about it were alive. No it wasnt. It isnt in the bible. |
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we will see
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ArchimedesGirl
User ID: 84060781 United States 08/24/2022 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never posted in your threads because I have wondered if you might not be a family member... lol. I came out from people similar to you who hold dogmas blindly, desperately, and condemn themselves with their own words to others as you just did above. However, I do not wish upon you the things you are about to experience. Those who will escape the time of trouble that is about to come upon the whole earth are those "who kept my word." And they will be kept as Noah was, right through the storm, even through the hour of trouble, because they HEAR and OBEY. Please do your own research. Study the writings of those who walked with Christ in person, which does not include Jack Chick. And in that hour when trouble descends upon you and you can't find a meme to make you feel better, God help you find the humility to question yourself at last. Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |