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Storm2come
(OP) Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 80494276 United States 07/27/2022 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to cowboystatedaily.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78915544 If water levels in reservoirs around Wyoming are looking a little low, well, they are. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation and irrigation district officials across the state are reporting that reservoirs levels are well below their capacities. In Cody, the Buffalo Bill Reservoir contains far less water than it has in the past. David Merrell, with the Bureau of Reclamation office in Mills, told Cowboy State Daily that water behind the Buffalo Bill Dam is currently at 60% of its capacity. A graph charting water levels at Buffalo Bill for the last 30 years bears that out. Although the fact islands have surfaced at the shallower end of the reservoir, this year’s levels are still above those recorded in 2001. Levels that year were the lowest seen in the last 30 years and were 22 feet below current readings. Similarly, Bonnie Hueckstaedt, with Eden Valley Irrigation in the state’s southwest corner, told Cowboy State Daily the region’s reservoir, the Big Sandy, is at about 68% of normal right now. It's good to see you adding and contributing to the thread this morning, I'd like to keep monitoring this topic for the next 6 months Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
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User ID: 81572619 United States 07/27/2022 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to cowboystatedaily.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78915544 If water levels in reservoirs around Wyoming are looking a little low, well, they are. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation and irrigation district officials across the state are reporting that reservoirs levels are well below their capacities. In Cody, the Buffalo Bill Reservoir contains far less water than it has in the past. David Merrell, with the Bureau of Reclamation office in Mills, told Cowboy State Daily that water behind the Buffalo Bill Dam is currently at 60% of its capacity. A graph charting water levels at Buffalo Bill for the last 30 years bears that out. Although the fact islands have surfaced at the shallower end of the reservoir, this year’s levels are still above those recorded in 2001. Levels that year were the lowest seen in the last 30 years and were 22 feet below current readings. Similarly, Bonnie Hueckstaedt, with Eden Valley Irrigation in the state’s southwest corner, told Cowboy State Daily the region’s reservoir, the Big Sandy, is at about 68% of normal right now. It's good to see you adding and contributing to the thread this morning, I'd like to keep monitoring this topic for the next 6 months Me too. I'm going to add it to my favorites. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78915544 United States 07/27/2022 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to cowboystatedaily.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78915544 If water levels in reservoirs around Wyoming are looking a little low, well, they are. U.S. Bureau of Reclamation and irrigation district officials across the state are reporting that reservoirs levels are well below their capacities. In Cody, the Buffalo Bill Reservoir contains far less water than it has in the past. David Merrell, with the Bureau of Reclamation office in Mills, told Cowboy State Daily that water behind the Buffalo Bill Dam is currently at 60% of its capacity. A graph charting water levels at Buffalo Bill for the last 30 years bears that out. Although the fact islands have surfaced at the shallower end of the reservoir, this year’s levels are still above those recorded in 2001. Levels that year were the lowest seen in the last 30 years and were 22 feet below current readings. Similarly, Bonnie Hueckstaedt, with Eden Valley Irrigation in the state’s southwest corner, told Cowboy State Daily the region’s reservoir, the Big Sandy, is at about 68% of normal right now. It's good to see you adding and contributing to the thread this morning, I'd like to keep monitoring this topic for the next 6 months I think that would be beneficial to all. Suffice to say that while the uppermost reservoirs in Colorado are healthy, everything down to Lake Powell is not. Maybe Colorado is depriving the SW of water and no one knows it. We shall see, yeah? |
Storm2come
(OP) Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 80494276 United States 07/27/2022 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another video of the situation Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
Nick User ID: 83925186 United States 07/27/2022 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think that's a better answer. I opened this thread thinking the lake would be drained to cause migration away from that area, not that migration to the area caused an "overconsumption." I can see powers wanting to displace 80 million or whatever Americans from the area. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79182777 United States 07/27/2022 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's go back to the data from the upper part of the Colorado River basin (in the state of Colorado) and see what data is to be found. Surprisingly it's easy to find what % of normal all the big downstream reservoirs are at, but nary a mention across multiple search engines for what level of storage the upstream Colorado River impoundments are at versus normal. So, let's start with Lake Granby (source of the Colorado River) and the elevation of it's water above sea level: [link to www.usbr.gov (secure)] 2022 March/April low: 8,234' 2022 July high: 8,278' (even with a delayed spring runoff that's high water for late summer) Shadow Mtn. Reservoir: [link to www.usbr.gov (secure)] 2021 Oct/Nov low: 8,366.39' 2022 July high: 8,366.49' (only a .10 fluctuation through the entire runoff!) Green Mountain Reservoir: 2022 April low: 7,880' 2022 July high: 7,938' (carrying an additional 58' of water this late in the summer) Williams Fork Reservoir: 2021 Oct. low: 8,119' 2022 July high: 8,121' (a fluctuation through the entire runoff season of only 2'!) Without taking into consideration how releases are made to local area water districts and irrigation commitments, the question remains why is there this much late summer storage upstream while the lower Colorado basin parches out? Earlier this year Flaming Gorge Res. in Wyoming made a half million acre foot release to Lake Powell and it brought the drying lake up 17'. Since that time no more releases have been made. Is the state of Colorado itself drying up the system by withholding flows? Yes there is major drought in the West, but could someone(s) be making it appear and even become a crisis with curtailed releases? Hmmm... |
Storm2come
(OP) Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 80494276 United States 07/27/2022 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's go back to the data from the upper part of the Colorado River basin (in the state of Colorado) and see what data is to be found. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79182777 Surprisingly it's easy to find what % of normal all the big downstream reservoirs are at, but nary a mention across multiple search engines for what level of storage the upstream Colorado River impoundments are at versus normal. So, let's start with Lake Granby (source of the Colorado River) and the elevation of it's water above sea level: [link to www.usbr.gov (secure)] 2022 March/April low: 8,234' 2022 July high: 8,278' (even with a delayed spring runoff that's high water for late summer) Shadow Mtn. Reservoir: [link to www.usbr.gov (secure)] 2021 Oct/Nov low: 8,366.39' 2022 July high: 8,366.49' (only a .10 fluctuation through the entire runoff!) Green Mountain Reservoir: 2022 April low: 7,880' 2022 July high: 7,938' (carrying an additional 58' of water this late in the summer) Williams Fork Reservoir: 2021 Oct. low: 8,119' 2022 July high: 8,121' (a fluctuation through the entire runoff season of only 2'!) Without taking into consideration how releases are made to local area water districts and irrigation commitments, the question remains why is there this much late summer storage upstream while the lower Colorado basin parches out? Earlier this year Flaming Gorge Res. in Wyoming made a half million acre foot release to Lake Powell and it brought the drying lake up 17'. Since that time no more releases have been made. Is the state of Colorado itself drying up the system by withholding flows? Yes there is major drought in the West, but could someone(s) be making it appear and even become a crisis with curtailed releases? Hmmm... Yes the State of Colorado has told the Government to go f itself, watch the video I posted earlier today, it explains it all. Water Wars in the near future?? Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83915915 United States 07/27/2022 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lake Mead, a lifeline for water in Los Angeles and the West, ‘unrecognizable’ as it tips toward crisis Quoting: Storm2come Lake Mead, a lifeline for 25 million people and millions of acres of farmland in California, Arizona, Nevada and Mexico, made history when it was engineered 85 years ago, capturing trillions of gallons of river water and ushering in the growth of the modern West.[less than 50%] [link to www.register-herald.com (secure)] :nova glass: Let's face some facts in 1980 the population of Las Vegas was 146,000 today it's 662,000 , The population of Las Angelas was 9,300,00 today it's 12,9000,000. With just these 2 cities that's a rise of 4.1 million more people drinking the water. More farms that need irrigation :illwork: While many are trying to blame climate change, I blame both legal and illegal migration on the water shortage in the Southwest USA. One more sign that resources are finite and should be protected from illegal immigration. :stopill: Politicians that don't understand this should be voted out. :illNancy: :realvsleft: *6% of all water goes to AG... they should not be growing shit in those regions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83915915 United States 07/27/2022 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lake Mead, a lifeline for water in Los Angeles and the West, ‘unrecognizable’ as it tips toward crisis Quoting: Storm2come Lake Mead, a lifeline for 25 million people and millions of acres of farmland in California, Arizona, Nevada and Mexico, made history when it was engineered 85 years ago, capturing trillions of gallons of river water and ushering in the growth of the modern West.[less than 50%] [link to www.register-herald.com (secure)] :nova glass: Let's face some facts in 1980 the population of Las Vegas was 146,000 today it's 662,000 , The population of Las Angelas was 9,300,00 today it's 12,9000,000. With just these 2 cities that's a rise of 4.1 million more people drinking the water. More farms that need irrigation :illwork: While many are trying to blame climate change, I blame both legal and illegal migration on the water shortage in the Southwest USA. One more sign that resources are finite and should be protected from illegal immigration. :stopill: Politicians that don't understand this should be voted out. :illNancy: :realvsleft: *6% of all water goes to AG... they should not be growing shit in those regions. 86% |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79182777 United States 07/27/2022 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's go back to the data from the upper part of the Colorado River basin (in the state of Colorado) and see what data is to be found. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79182777 Surprisingly it's easy to find what % of normal all the big downstream reservoirs are at, but nary a mention across multiple search engines for what level of storage the upstream Colorado River impoundments are at versus normal. So, let's start with Lake Granby (source of the Colorado River) and the elevation of it's water above sea level: [link to www.usbr.gov (secure)] 2022 March/April low: 8,234' 2022 July high: 8,278' (even with a delayed spring runoff that's high water for late summer) Shadow Mtn. Reservoir: [link to www.usbr.gov (secure)] 2021 Oct/Nov low: 8,366.39' 2022 July high: 8,366.49' (only a .10 fluctuation through the entire runoff!) Green Mountain Reservoir: 2022 April low: 7,880' 2022 July high: 7,938' (carrying an additional 58' of water this late in the summer) Williams Fork Reservoir: 2021 Oct. low: 8,119' 2022 July high: 8,121' (a fluctuation through the entire runoff season of only 2'!) Without taking into consideration how releases are made to local area water districts and irrigation commitments, the question remains why is there this much late summer storage upstream while the lower Colorado basin parches out? Earlier this year Flaming Gorge Res. in Wyoming made a half million acre foot release to Lake Powell and it brought the drying lake up 17'. Since that time no more releases have been made. Is the state of Colorado itself drying up the system by withholding flows? Yes there is major drought in the West, but could someone(s) be making it appear and even become a crisis with curtailed releases? Hmmm... Yes the State of Colorado has told the Government to go f itself, watch the video I posted earlier today, it explains it all. Water Wars in the near future?? Water wars soon, agreed. Quite unique that the Feds haven't called Colorado's bluff yet. Quite unique how silently this upstream taking - great video. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82402467 United States 07/30/2022 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to understand it , this is the bible. If you havent read it , then do. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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Storm2come
(OP) Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 80494276 United States 08/03/2022 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | August update on Lake Mead Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
dschis1000
User ID: 77525785 United States 08/03/2022 03:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50983817 so the real problem is no one is putting water back into the lake? didn't they think of that when they were taking the water out? or was it just a case of, we'll leave that part to chance? I don't think that when they built it 85 years ago that they had any idea how many people would need it, add a draught on to that and less snow pact melt and now we have a crises any plans to NOW put water back in it? or that idea still flying over their heads? Have you noticed the braindead Morans leading this nation If it were me I'd create a pipeline from the Mississippi river. Probably easier and cheaper to build nuke plants and ROWPU units |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80014044 United States 08/03/2022 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An imaginary lake that was created by men, not by nature, should have how much water exactly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82549867 Why the same as every other mad made water embayment across the face of the planet - which is to say however much it was designed to contain, adjusted for seasonal variances, and balanced against the consumptive use of its user base. duh. You got something against reservoirs pal? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80014044 United States 08/03/2022 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Storm2come I don't think that when they built it 85 years ago that they had any idea how many people would need it, add a draught on to that and less snow pact melt and now we have a crises any plans to NOW put water back in it? or that idea still flying over their heads? Have you noticed the braindead Morans leading this nation If it were me I'd create a pipeline from the Mississippi river. Probably easier and cheaper to build nuke plants and ROWPU units Not even close in a nation that takes decades to permit, let alone bring online, a new nuclear plant. The prospect of desalainating brackish groundwater however has been proven in El Paso, so... [link to www.nature.org (secure)] [link to waterdata.usgs.gov (secure)] [link to nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov (secure)] [link to webgis.water.nv.gov (secure)] [link to groundwater.stanford.edu (secure)] Today, groundwater accounts for 45.6% of the state's total freshwater supply.6 A little more than half the groundwater withdrawn is used for agriculture with another 30% used for mining operations.7 Groundwater accounts for 100% of individual household water use and 22.9% of public supplies.8 Revealing data is fun, innit? |
snowgoosebob
User ID: 80821537 United States 08/03/2022 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With just these 2 cities that's a rise of 4.1 million more people drinking the water. More farms that need irrigation Quoting: Storm2come OP: Not only is there 4.1 million more people drinking the water....... The 4.1 million more people also use water to take a bath/shower. The 4.1 million more people also use water to flush the bathroom toilet. The 4.1 million more people also use water to wash dishes. The 4.1 million more people also use water to wash their cloths. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78701318 08/03/2022 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why they want to divert water from the Mississippi River, into the Colorado River. Quoting: Artlicious Makes me wonder if the Mississippi may one day, no longer reach the Gulf of Mexico? And if that happens, how will it change the Gulf? Water Wars coming? Mississippi River carries 30X what the colorado river does. |
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