Brewing a 16th Century Ale with wild yeast (new: psychotropic effects of Yarrow Ale) | |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I began with making a syrup with a malt extract and brown sugar boiled for 30 minutes with yarrow and chamomile from my garden. When it was cooled, I added a tablespoon of juniper berries from a nearby tree. The juniper berries carried the yeast I wanted to culture. I covered the jar with a coffee filter held with a rubber band. Actually, I made three jars. One with juniper berries. The other two without. I placed one jar in the yarrow patch, one the chamomile, and the juniper berry jar in a dark warm place indoors. I learned about catching an ale yeast from these guys: [link to www.homebrewtalk.com (secure)] https://imgur.com/ywrVVYV https://imgur.com/MZmrMsr Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Juniper berry yeast is good stuff, you can make a really decent sourdough starter with it too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81211338 Enjoy! Hey, thanks! So I've heard. I already have a hearty sourdough starter going, but if it ever dies, I do plan to start over with some juniper berries! It's so cool how the yeasts we need are all around us! Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After about a week of shaking the jars occasionally, all three developed good yeasts with different flavors. I decided to use the Juniper Berry yeast first. The other two jars had holes in the coffee filters from curious birds and they also got rained on one night. I was amazed and delighted to find them still developing a foamy kraussen and a delicious flavor. https://imgur.com/28Ih7Hv After a week I added more brown sugar to the juniper berry yeast and shook it up. Then I worked on making my wort. Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The book I mentioned above talks about how alcohol yeasts were kept back in the "dark ages." One of the methods was with a birch log which was tossed into the brew to absorb the yeasts. The sweetness of birch will draw the yeasts deep into the log. After the brewing cycle is done, the birch log can be taken out and dried. The log can be placed into the next brew to reintroduce the yeast. Since birch doesn't grow where I am at, I bought a small log from Hobby Lobby. I lathed off the bark and then let a young friend of mine carve grooves and words on it: "Kveik" is a word that means "renewing the brood" and was used to describe the yeast keeping log. When I made the sweet wort, I boiled the birch log in the wort to get it saturated and sweet all the way through, since it had long since dried out (but had not been treated.) I hoped the boiling would also sanitize the log. https://imgur.com/nh3kVQ8 Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Recipe: 16th Century Yarrow and Chamomile Beer 5 lbs of Barley Malt or Honey or Brown Sugar (golden light liquid Malt Extract from HomeBrew Supply) 5 gallons of water 8 oz fresh Chamomile stems and flowers 4 oz fresh Yarrow flowers and leaves About 20 oz of yeast starter. made with juniper berries, yarrow, chamomile and barley malt Taken from pages 184 and 387 of the Sacred Herbal Healing Beer book and the web page from homebrewtalk.com above. Yarrow is psychotropic, so I only used half of what was mentioned in the old recipe. It is also very potent anti-viral, anti-fungal, blood purifying, fever lowering, and so on. . . It is VERY GOOD FOR YOU. Yarrow was used like hops to bitter the beer and preserve it before hops took over that role. Yarrow was thought to be "the original hops." Chamomile is calming to the nervous system and good for digestion. https://imgur.com/1pXCSpE https://imgur.com/rJUAslP Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The juniper berries are strained out of the yeast starter and no juniper berries are added to the wort. So no - there is no gin flavor in the ale. Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 20 hours later the airlock began to bubble. 3 days later it is apparent that the yeast prefers temperatures between 75 and 85 degrees. It does not make as robust a kraussen as mead and wine do. I am wondering if any beer brewers out there can tell me if this is normal. How robust should a yeast be? How much foam should I expect? https://imgur.com/C8g7QQN https://imgur.com/e5BAs56 Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71375307 United States 07/07/2022 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Enter the Birch Log. Quoting: ArchimedesGirl The book I mentioned above talks about how alcohol yeasts were kept back in the "dark ages." One of the methods was with a birch log which was tossed into the brew to absorb the yeasts. The sweetness of birch will draw the yeasts deep into the log. After the brewing cycle is done, the birch log can be taken out and dried. The log can be placed into the next brew to reintroduce the yeast. Since birch doesn't grow where I am at, I bought a small log from Hobby Lobby. I lathed off the bark and then let a young friend of mine carve grooves and words on it: "Kveik" is a word that means "renewing the brood" and was used to describe the yeast keeping log. When I made the sweet wort, I boiled the birch log in the wort to get it saturated and sweet all the way through, since it had long since dried out (but had not been treated.) I hoped the boiling would also sanitize the log. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [/imgur] Very cool! |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks guys! I will post more later and update my project for anyone interested. I think I've maxed out my imgur allowance for today - lol. Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks guys! I will post more later and update my project for anyone interested. Quoting: ArchimedesGirl I think I've maxed out my imgur allowance for today - lol. what is the % alcohol op! IT READS DELICIOUSLY...CAPMAN. UH. Hey, thanks for the interest! I just realized I've been pinned. Woohoo! Umm. . . I don't know what the alcohol content will be. I no longer have all the gadgets I had when I started brewing mead, so I didn't record the S.G. I waited for 4 years to have the cash to buy a new ale pail, and all ingredients and tools to brew beer. Then I read the book above and I was like, "screw it - if they could do it back then, I can do it now with what I have on hand." I made an ale pail out of a food grade tractor supply bucket and plumbing hardware I got at the same store. I had a tamale pot to boil the wort in. I had an old airlock. A friend gave me some barley malt. I don't know what the alcohol content will be, but I have a few friends who are more familiar with beer and ale than I am and they will taste it when it's finished and let me know what they think. Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66834297 United States 07/07/2022 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About 15 years ago I caught a wild yeast from some grapes and made a wild mead. I realized for the first time the migraines I used to get from wine or raisins were from sulfates - not alcohol or grapes. Quoting: ArchimedesGirl The fun of brewing started a lifelong love of fermenting all sorts of things, from gouda cheese to sauerkraut to muscadine meads and fig wine. Currently I have 5 gallons of vinegar brewing, 6 gallons of Kombucha, and 5 gallons of this wild ale. I need to record how it's going and hopefully get some advice from more experienced Beer and Ale brewers. This is my first beer/ale. It began with this book: [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Junipers have Quinine. Provecho. |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | About 15 years ago I caught a wild yeast from some grapes and made a wild mead. I realized for the first time the migraines I used to get from wine or raisins were from sulfates - not alcohol or grapes. Quoting: ArchimedesGirl The fun of brewing started a lifelong love of fermenting all sorts of things, from gouda cheese to sauerkraut to muscadine meads and fig wine. Currently I have 5 gallons of vinegar brewing, 6 gallons of Kombucha, and 5 gallons of this wild ale. I need to record how it's going and hopefully get some advice from more experienced Beer and Ale brewers. This is my first beer/ale. It began with this book: https://imgur.com/undefined Junipers have Quinine. Provecho. True. And Alcohol denatures snake venom. And live cultures protect the G.I tract from poisoning. And Yarrow strengthens the immune system and kills viruses. And wine cheers the heart of God and man! It is my hope that my ale story will inspire more people to try brewing. It's fun and easier than I expected! Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even without an imgur image I can't seem to post content anymore either??? Mods, can you help please? I am going to edit/add the post that keeps being banned here. . . and see if it makes it: So today I tested the wort. It is partly fermented, definitely has an ale flavor, but is still too sweet. I felt like it needed a little more bitterness and maybe some yeast nutrients. So I boiled 1 lb of brown sugar in water with one handful of hops flowers for 15 minutes. Then I added one lemon, a few grains of epsom salt, 3 crushed dates, and a tiny pinch of biotin. These things (and more) are usually found in store-bought "yeast nutrient" - which I don't have. (Ancient recipes talk about using raisins, lemons, salt and cream of tartar.) When this tea was cooled, I strained it and added it to the wort and tested the flavor again. I liked the bitterness the hops added and the wort picked up bubbling within an hour. It is going steady now at about 78 degrees inside. The primary is sitting right beside me, bubbling merrily... It smells WONDERFUL. Can't wait to see how this turns out. Wish me luck! Last Edited by ArchimedesGirl on 07/07/2022 10:12 PM Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyhoo - if there are any beer/ale brewers here - please, can you let me know how active should an ale yeast be? Like constant non-stop bubbling? A second or two between? How long should this process take? A week? Longer? Thanks for any advice you can give me. Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you think the gravity of the ale will be when it's finished? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80665233 I've never done this before, so I don't really know. The one guy I read who used a wild-caught juniper yeast for an ale similar to mine ended up with 1.012. and began with 1.035. Edit to add: I believe with the extra lb of brown sugar, my final gravity will be higher than his...? So, about 4 - 5% alcohol. Last Edited by ArchimedesGirl on 07/07/2022 11:37 PM Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're welcome! So, as I noted above, this wild yeast seems to prefer temperatures between 75 and 85 degrees. At night our house cools off to more like 65 degrees and the wort stops bubbling. So I brought in a red light which I had been using to raise chicks (but they're grown now) and set it up shining on the bucket. So far, it's keeping the wort bubbling consistently. I'll check on it in a few hours to make sure it's not overheating my brew. https://imgur.com/fXgS3qU Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |
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User ID: 77547432 Canada 07/07/2022 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This fellow [link to www.stormbrewing.org (secure)] started a lambic using wild yeast by setting it out in an alley in East Vancouver, right behind a chicken processing plant (for killing them) and it stunk, and was full of floating feathers all the time. A year later I showed up to say hello and Lo! Behold! He was ready to crack the 5 gallons for a 'tester'. It was only he and I. We drank half and I slept on a couch in the brewery and made it to the ferry home later that evening. It was amazing! I tried a can of his latest about a month ago (not as ad hoc) and wasn't keen on it. Three cheers to wild yeats! Soulless fake humans are already AI. They get triggered by particular words, symbols etc. They can't really bother about the meaning. They just look for the trigger words. Their language & comprehension skills are 0. Some bots have bods, others don't. Cara Is Spirit |
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(OP) User ID: 82899410 Russia 07/07/2022 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This fellow Quoting: St Tidbits the Odd [link to www.stormbrewing.org (secure)] started a lambic using wild yeast by setting it out in an alley in East Vancouver, right behind a chicken processing plant (for killing them) and it stunk, and was full of floating feathers all the time. A year later I showed up to say hello and Lo! Behold! He was ready to crack the 5 gallons for a 'tester'. It was only he and I. We drank half and I slept on a couch in the brewery and made it to the ferry home later that evening. It was amazing! I tried a can of his latest about a month ago (not as ad hoc) and wasn't keen on it. Three cheers to wild yeats! That's a hilarious story. The two of you drank half of 5 gallons? lol! I'm curious - did he sulfite his brew or was it raw? And did you get hung over like you would with a store-bought beer? (Never mind - I see on his site that he doesn't use preservatives.) I'd be scared of the yeast I'd catch in an alley like that, but it sounds like it was magic anyway. It makes sense to me that the ideal yeast for any brew would be local - even residential to the ingredients used in the brew. For this reason I set one jar in the yarrow patch and one in the chamomile patch. Even though they were only 8 feet apart and made of the same ingredients, they caught different yeasts and each has a unique flavor and odor. I love that! Last Edited by ArchimedesGirl on 07/08/2022 12:00 AM Prophetic dreams about a coming war and those who survive: Thread: "Communism for California" west coast riots from 2006 dream (update: streaming hive mind dream) How to Eject: Thread: Game Over - a Journey to Freedom (story complete) |