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Forum Administrator  05/24/2022 08:28 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded Quoting: 05flsts It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity). Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast. Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car. This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch.. This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well. Heres some additional info. Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!! Also...just put things in perspective: In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020. Canada, 14 million metric tons Russia, 7.6 million metric tons Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons China, 5 million metric tons Germany, 3 million metric tons Israel, 2 million metric tons Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons Chile, 900 thousand metric tons Spain, 470 thousand metric tons So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and further back up other traffic that is needed. Thanks for perspective “We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity |
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| 05flsts
User ID: 78739048  Canada05/24/2022 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded Quoting: 05flsts It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity). Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast. Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car. This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch.. This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well. Heres some additional info. Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!! Also...just put things in perspective: In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020. Canada, 14 million metric tons Russia, 7.6 million metric tons Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons China, 5 million metric tons Germany, 3 million metric tons Israel, 2 million metric tons Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons Chile, 900 thousand metric tons Spain, 470 thousand metric tons So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and fwoilher back up other traffic that is needed. Have you been " workin on the rairoad " ? Lol...just a little. Worked for CP for a lot of years in Alberta and I know how this shit works. One other point to address an above post re: regularly maintained. Yes, the track is regularly patrolled looking for obvious defects but in order to detect a defect or flaw within the steel itself requires a specialized x ray car (Techcar)that is run over the rails x raying as its going along. However there are only a handful of them system wide (Canadian trackage is thousands and thousands of miles) and there is a lot ground to cover that requires this specialized crew and equipment. Railways are notoriously cheap. |
| 05flsts
User ID: 78739048 Canada05/24/2022 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | could be as simple as not having enough people to run trains since they fired the unvaxxed and they decide to run heavier than usual loads and it didn't work out so well. Quoting: TruthSeeker0511 Lol. Yup. That is very insightful and is in fact correct. CP is running vaxxed crews to the enth degree. My old terminal has been running back to back Conductor trainee classes for 1.5 years now. Lol serves them right! |
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| Grey Eagle
User ID: 77955894 United States05/24/2022 10:20 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have the eco-terrorists here in WA state putting things on the tracks trying to derail them. Probably them doing this Quoting: John Dutton Courtesy of the liberals and their agenda to destroy the country. I say if they catch them they should hang them. One of their top agendas right now is to create/engineer a US food-famine. Burned-down (paid-arsonist) food distribution and processing plants, coordinated fertilizer shortages, transportation 'problems', train-wrecks, etc, etc.. Ie, to force Americans into their long-planned NWO/Great Reshit. Desperately hungry people will (finally) accept Communism/Neo-feudalism. Last Edited by Grey Eagle on 05/24/2022 10:21 PM :fireplace: "Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?" |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74739668 United States05/24/2022 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (ZeroHedge) There's a lot of anxiety about a global food shortage. Farmers across Canada and the US are rushing to get as many crops in the ground, though soaring diesel and fertilizer prices have made the planting season challenging. In some cases, fertilizer is in short supply, and the latest evidence of that is a train carrying potash derailed in Canada. Quoting: PURA SANGRE A westbound Canadian Pacific train carrying 43 hopper cars of potash derailed east of Fort Macleod in southern Alberta on Sunday. No injuries were reported, and the incident is under investigation. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] https://twitter.com/_/status/1528874266308902912 perhaps more effective and less suspicious then another accidental food factory fire |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83405114 Canada05/24/2022 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (ZeroHedge) There's a lot of anxiety about a global food shortage. Farmers across Canada and the US are rushing to get as many crops in the ground, though soaring diesel and fertilizer prices have made the planting season challenging. In some cases, fertilizer is in short supply, and the latest evidence of that is a train carrying potash derailed in Canada. Quoting: PURA SANGRE A westbound Canadian Pacific train carrying 43 hopper cars of potash derailed east of Fort Macleod in southern Alberta on Sunday. No injuries were reported, and the incident is under investigation. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] https://twitter.com/_/status/1528874266308902912 how does one derail a train thats going in a strait line on one of the most well maintain railroads in canada... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77790147 United States05/24/2022 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (ZeroHedge) There's a lot of anxiety about a global food shortage. Farmers across Canada and the US are rushing to get as many crops in the ground, though soaring diesel and fertilizer prices have made the planting season challenging. In some cases, fertilizer is in short supply, and the latest evidence of that is a train carrying potash derailed in Canada. Quoting: PURA SANGRE A westbound Canadian Pacific train carrying 43 hopper cars of potash derailed east of Fort Macleod in southern Alberta on Sunday. No injuries were reported, and the incident is under investigation. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] https://twitter.com/_/status/1528874266308902912 Food processing plants burning, fertilizing trains derailing. The elites are getting very sloppy, their 2030 agenda will not happen if they keep this up. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30503909 Canada05/24/2022 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably another Trudeau supporter. They threatened to do this remember. They were caught trying to do this and Trudeau didn't let those shots get punished, said they were expressing themselves. Just like the pipeline attacks. We will never forget. |
| Squirrel Whisperer
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74738285 United States05/25/2022 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (ZeroHedge) There's a lot of anxiety about a global food shortage. Farmers across Canada and the US are rushing to get as many crops in the ground, though soaring diesel and fertilizer prices have made the planting season challenging. In some cases, fertilizer is in short supply, and the latest evidence of that is a train carrying potash derailed in Canada. Quoting: PURA SANGRE A westbound Canadian Pacific train carrying 43 hopper cars of potash derailed east of Fort Macleod in southern Alberta on Sunday. No injuries were reported, and the incident is under investigation. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] https://twitter.com/_/status/1528874266308902912 Derailed? That looks like they tried to parallel park all of em. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81017388 United States05/25/2022 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded Quoting: 05flsts It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity). Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast. Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car. This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch.. This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well. Heres some additional info. Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!! Also...just put things in perspective: In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020. Canada, 14 million metric tons Russia, 7.6 million metric tons Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons China, 5 million metric tons Germany, 3 million metric tons Israel, 2 million metric tons Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons Chile, 900 thousand metric tons Spain, 470 thousand metric tons So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and further back up other traffic that is needed. Damn bro, , how you know all this?! I work at the terminal in PDX that the train was en route too. Surprised you knew it was going over sea's, , TBH I was looking for wrong information, , but you had it all correct. Kudo's to you and an asset to this troll ridden website. |
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| 05flsts
User ID: 78739048 Canada05/25/2022 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded Quoting: 05flsts It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity). Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast. Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car. This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch.. This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well. Heres some additional info. Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!! Also...just put things in perspective: In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020. Canada, 14 million metric tons Russia, 7.6 million metric tons Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons China, 5 million metric tons Germany, 3 million metric tons Israel, 2 million metric tons Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons Chile, 900 thousand metric tons Spain, 470 thousand metric tons So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and further back up other traffic that is needed. Damn bro, , how you know all this?! I work at the terminal in PDX that the train was en route too. Surprised you knew it was going over sea's, , TBH I was looking for wrong information, , but you had it all correct. Kudo's to you and an asset to this troll ridden website. Lol thanks man... Can you get me a job?! I ran the maintracks in Alberta and into BC as a running trades Conductor for many years and then later promoted to management (training) of which I then had to quit a couple of years short of my pension out of principle when Hunter Harrison (that guy was truly a motherfucker that refered to Canadian railway workers as snow ni**ers. I actually partied when he croaked...) started to decimate the CPR. He hurt soooo many people that were/are friends of mine. In all good conscience I couldn't support the way of life that I loved under that cut throat leadership. |
