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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80363680 United States 05/24/2022 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be interested in knowing what caused this derailment. Tracks look really torn up at the first car that derailed. Did someone sabotage the tracks before hand? Or Mother Nature deform the ground the tracks are on?? Or, just part of the derailment. Usually railroad are constantly monitoring the track conditions so these kind of things don't happen. However it happened, hell of a wreck. Glad no one was hurt and nothing too noxious is being spread around. Take a while to clean up, so nothing will be moving on that line for a while. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57084606 Australia 05/24/2022 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be interested in knowing what caused this derailment. Tracks look really torn up at the first car that derailed. Did someone sabotage the tracks before hand? Or Mother Nature deform the ground the tracks are on?? Or, just part of the derailment. Usually railroad are constantly monitoring the track conditions so these kind of things don't happen. However it happened, hell of a wreck. Glad no one was hurt and nothing too noxious is being spread around. Take a while to clean up, so nothing will be moving on that line for a while. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80363680 aye ne'er let a wee crisis go to waste... plant corn beside the tracks and wit harvest them golden cobs and me ye some moonshine you have heard of cornpop? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77749705 United States 05/24/2022 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Might want to research how potassium for potash is produced.. I went down that rabbit hole and it isn't pretty. Also look into bone meal... The fertilizers are bad news....so what a great train wreck. Fertilizers Baby Formula Foods Drinks Blood etc... |
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User ID: 78739048 Canada 05/24/2022 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity). Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast. Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car. This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch.. This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well. Heres some additional info. Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!! Also...just put things in perspective: In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020. Canada, 14 million metric tons Russia, 7.6 million metric tons Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons China, 5 million metric tons Germany, 3 million metric tons Israel, 2 million metric tons Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons Chile, 900 thousand metric tons Spain, 470 thousand metric tons So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and further back up other traffic that is needed. Last Edited by 05flsts on 05/24/2022 07:41 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83408566 Australia 05/24/2022 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded Quoting: 05flsts It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity). Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast. Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car. This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch.. This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well. Heres some additional info. Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!! Also...just put things in perspective: In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020. Canada, 14 million metric tons Russia, 7.6 million metric tons Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons China, 5 million metric tons Germany, 3 million metric tons Israel, 2 million metric tons Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons Chile, 900 thousand metric tons Spain, 470 thousand metric tons So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and further back up other traffic that is needed. well, you win the internet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79748890 Canada 05/24/2022 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (ZeroHedge) There's a lot of anxiety about a global food shortage. Farmers across Canada and the US are rushing to get as many crops in the ground, though soaring diesel and fertilizer prices have made the planting season challenging. In some cases, fertilizer is in short supply, and the latest evidence of that is a train carrying potash derailed in Canada. Quoting: PURA SANGRE A westbound Canadian Pacific train carrying 43 hopper cars of potash derailed east of Fort Macleod in southern Alberta on Sunday. No injuries were reported, and the incident is under investigation. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] https://twitter.com/_/status/1528874266308902912 World war 3 has already begun it seems. People just don’t realize it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80732783 United States 05/24/2022 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded Quoting: 05flsts It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity). Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast. Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car. This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch.. This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well. Heres some additional info. Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!! Also...just put things in perspective: In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020. Canada, 14 million metric tons Russia, 7.6 million metric tons Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons China, 5 million metric tons Germany, 3 million metric tons Israel, 2 million metric tons Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons Chile, 900 thousand metric tons Spain, 470 thousand metric tons So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and further back up other traffic that is needed. Have you been " workin on the raliroad " ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80732783 United States 05/24/2022 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded Quoting: 05flsts It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity). Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast. Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car. This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch.. This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well. Heres some additional info. Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!! Also...just put things in perspective: In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020. Canada, 14 million metric tons Russia, 7.6 million metric tons Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons China, 5 million metric tons Germany, 3 million metric tons Israel, 2 million metric tons Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons Chile, 900 thousand metric tons Spain, 470 thousand metric tons So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and fwoilher back up other traffic that is needed. Have you been " workin on the rairoad " ? |
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