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(ZeroHedge) There's a lot of anxiety about a global food shortage. Farmers across Canada and the US are rushing to get as many crops in the ground, though soaring diesel and fertilizer prices have made the planting season challenging. In some cases, fertilizer is in short supply, and the latest evidence of that is a train carrying potash derailed in Canada.

A westbound Canadian Pacific train carrying 43 hopper cars of potash derailed east of Fort Macleod in southern Alberta on Sunday. No injuries were reported, and the incident is under investigation.

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Just another “accident.”
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Holy train wreck Batman!
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no potash for the farmers...... nice! It wasn't rigged.
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It's either a leftist or an Indian (feather kind) that did this. My bet is on the leftist.
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Thank God it wasn't just another fire.
Things might have started getting suspicious...
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Be interested in knowing what caused this derailment. Tracks look really torn up at the first car that derailed. Did someone sabotage the tracks before hand? Or Mother Nature deform the ground the tracks are on?? Or, just part of the derailment. Usually railroad are constantly monitoring the track conditions so these kind of things don't happen. However it happened, hell of a wreck. Glad no one was hurt and nothing too noxious is being spread around. Take a while to clean up, so nothing will be moving on that line for a while.
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Be interested in knowing what caused this derailment. Tracks look really torn up at the first car that derailed. Did someone sabotage the tracks before hand? Or Mother Nature deform the ground the tracks are on?? Or, just part of the derailment. Usually railroad are constantly monitoring the track conditions so these kind of things don't happen. However it happened, hell of a wreck. Glad no one was hurt and nothing too noxious is being spread around. Take a while to clean up, so nothing will be moving on that line for a while.
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Shocker.
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Who in the CIA is responsible for "Rail Safety"?

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Thank God it wasn't just another fire.
Things might have started getting suspicious...
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Holy train wreck Batman!
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I'm sure the FBI are all over this "National Security Incident". Relax.
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Might want to research how potassium for potash is produced..
I went down that rabbit hole and it isn't pretty.
Also look into bone meal...
The fertilizers are bad news....so what a great train wreck.
Fertilizers
Baby Formula
Foods
Drinks
Blood
etc...
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Just another “accident.”
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no potash for the farmers...... nice! It wasn't rigged.
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yeah someone put that penny on the tracks
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Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded

It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity).

Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast.

Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car.

This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch..

This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well.

Heres some additional info.
Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!!

Also...just put things in perspective:

In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020.

Canada, 14 million metric tons
Russia, 7.6 million metric tons
Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons
China, 5 million metric tons
Germany, 3 million metric tons
Israel, 2 million metric tons
Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons
Chile, 900 thousand metric tons
Spain, 470 thousand metric tons

So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and further back up other traffic that is needed.

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I guess farmers can go back to burning wood.
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How convenient. These WEF sponsored politicians are really going to attempt to kill as many as possible since their little Covid scam failed.
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It's either a leftist or an Indian (feather kind) that did this. My bet is on the leftist.
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my bet is WEF Special Forces
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God's wrath is upon us.
Famine it shall be
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This is theater so they can control you and make you believe their lies.
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The sky is falling !

When is the diesel rationing to begin you bunch of f'ing morons?

Fail after fail after fail after....

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Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded

It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity).

Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast.

Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car.

This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch..

This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well.

Heres some additional info.
Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!!

Also...just put things in perspective:

In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020.

Canada, 14 million metric tons
Russia, 7.6 million metric tons
Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons
China, 5 million metric tons
Germany, 3 million metric tons
Israel, 2 million metric tons
Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons
Chile, 900 thousand metric tons
Spain, 470 thousand metric tons

So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and further back up other traffic that is needed.
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(ZeroHedge) There's a lot of anxiety about a global food shortage. Farmers across Canada and the US are rushing to get as many crops in the ground, though soaring diesel and fertilizer prices have made the planting season challenging. In some cases, fertilizer is in short supply, and the latest evidence of that is a train carrying potash derailed in Canada.

A westbound Canadian Pacific train carrying 43 hopper cars of potash derailed east of Fort Macleod in southern Alberta on Sunday. No injuries were reported, and the incident is under investigation.

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Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded

It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity).

Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast.

Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car.

This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch..

This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well.

Heres some additional info.
Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!!

Also...just put things in perspective:

In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020.

Canada, 14 million metric tons
Russia, 7.6 million metric tons
Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons
China, 5 million metric tons
Germany, 3 million metric tons
Israel, 2 million metric tons
Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons
Chile, 900 thousand metric tons
Spain, 470 thousand metric tons

So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and further back up other traffic that is needed.
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Have you been " workin on the raliroad " ?
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Welp...as horrific as this is and not helping the farmers...this particular bulk commodity train was destined for overseas delivery. So it's going to effect European farmers. Saving some grace is that only 43 cars hit the ground most product will be recovered and transloaded

It was a unit train (a train that is dedicated to only one type of commodity).

Potash is a very dense commodity and those types of unit trains are VERY heavy and usually, depending on how many cars it had, have remote or "slave" engines located etheir mid train or a tailend remote to help them get through to the Rockies enroute to the Port of Vancouver BC on the West Coast.

Normally they are very stable and easy to handle due to the uniform of same type of cars and weight per car.

This particular section of track is flat and straight and located in Southern Alberta where it gets comparatively hot. The heat has a tendency to create "sun kinks" in the rail. That is if you think of the tracks as a piece of spaghetti as it heats up it will create slight curvature deviations. But the weather wasn't hot enough for that. There may be a chance due to the weight of the train it broke a rail. Think of the constant rhythmic pounding an undetected weak spot...Or...if the train is speeding it could create an harmonic wobble which may cause the cars to hit the ditch..

This section of track is also the mainline and gets a shitload of traffic over it that will be taken into account as well.

Heres some additional info.
Canadian Pacific Railway started running a new potash bulk train profile. The loads originate in Saskatchewan with 4 locomotives spread throughout the train that would consist of 177 cars! Yikes! Thats a shit ton of weight!!

Also...just put things in perspective:

In total, the world produced an estimated 43,000 million tons of potash in 2020.

Canada, 14 million metric tons
Russia, 7.6 million metric tons
Belarus, 7.3 million metric tons
China, 5 million metric tons
Germany, 3 million metric tons
Israel, 2 million metric tons
Jordan, 1.5 million metric tons
Chile, 900 thousand metric tons
Spain, 470 thousand metric tons

So the hit will be negligible on the worlds totality of output. What is going to be an issue as it is the southern maintrack to the coast its going to take some time to get the track clear and fwoilher back up other traffic that is needed.
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Have you been " workin on the rairoad " ?
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We have the eco-terrorists here in WA state putting things on the tracks trying to derail them. Probably them doing this
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