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If Putin cuts off gas

 
Anonymous Coward
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03/30/2022 08:56 AM
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All Europeans are going to pay for their leaders unwillingness to buy rubles, also Norwegians, since we participate in ACER - the European energy union and have several cables connecting the Norwegian powergrid to EU and UK. It is absolutely absurd that Norway, so rich in hydropower, gas and oil, now have to import energy from the common EU-grid that cost 10 times the price before those cables were introduced. Electricity used to be almost for free in Norway, now a normal household with a monthly usage ofr 2000 Kw/h pay like $500 each month.
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yeahsure Why did you join the EU?
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There were two elections, one in 1972 and one in 1994, where the Norwegians said NO to join the EU. But the politicians still joined the EU by a backdoor, the EEC, which is like being a member but without any representation. The politicians joined the ACER too, and voted in favor of building the cables, through the wholly state-owned powercompany Statkraft.

Democracy is a fucking joke!
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03/30/2022 08:57 AM
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Putin nice guy for not cutting gas doing deep freeze. If he wanted europe dead, he could just do nothing and flip the switch to off, lol
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He will flip the switch off soon. He's not a nice guy, he's just calculating. He knows forcing the EU to buy in Rubles will mean turning the supply off, but he wants to make it look like Europe has done it to itself.
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03/30/2022 08:59 AM
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Meh that's like 3% of our energy needs and none here has gas anything apart from BBQ.

Gonna suck being German tho!

5a
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Germany will align with Russia as a result. Wait and see
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I said this 3 weeks ago. Germany is the strongest member of the EU. Putin wants to cut deals with Germany to fuck the union.
StopsniffinmeBrandon

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03/30/2022 09:00 AM
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It's not so much that buying gas in Rubles is a big deal, it's that Putin will set a dodgy exchange rate thus ripping Europe off for it even more.
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NO, it IS a big deal. The U.S. /EU is trying to destroy Russia's economy by sanctions, which are hurting the value of the Ruble. If all of these countries have to pay in rubles for gas and oil, instead of Dollars and Euros, the value of the Ruble goes up, while the value of the Euro and Dollar goes down. It is a win-win for Russia.
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03/30/2022 09:06 AM
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The EU (especially Germany) has been leveraging the West against the East for the best deals for decades. They pinned their bets poorly and built up their enemies. They deserve the same thing that's coming to American retail. I don't mean empty shelves, I mean empty stores and a loss of overtly cheap retail. China will embargo us one day.
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03/30/2022 09:09 AM
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It's not so much that buying gas in Rubles is a big deal, it's that Putin will set a dodgy exchange rate thus ripping Europe off for it even more.
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As he should until all value of stolen assets is returned. If the EU don't like it, they can eat shit and pay even MORE on the open market and ship it there.
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03/30/2022 09:10 AM
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The EU (especially Germany) has been leveraging the West against the East for the best deals for decades. They pinned their bets poorly and built up their enemies. They deserve the same thing that's coming to American retail. I don't mean empty shelves, I mean empty stores and a loss of overtly cheap retail. China will embargo us one day.
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Also the loss of a mfg base. We'll be starting at square one because all the heavy industry trades have been lost and forgotten. Cars will start at $120k by 2030. But for that to even be successful women would have to want to marry and have children with men who work in factories for blue collar wages and that would take an upheaval of social changes. You're better off learning a foreign language because the good ole days are several generations away.
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03/30/2022 09:12 AM
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2 scenarios, Europe's don't buy rubles and get fucked


Europe by rubles and the dolar gets raped
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03/30/2022 09:14 AM
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For the “summer is coming” group and those thinking they can find other ways to cook without gas.

38% of Europe’s electric generation is from natural gas powered generators. That cannot be replaced in a hurry. Nuclear plants would have to be built.

No gas, electric brown outs continent wide. No heat, no AC, no cooking, no internet.

Better get those EU leaders to go out and buy some rubles right now!
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D0ITdoIT
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03/30/2022 09:15 AM
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Better get in shape. Walking will be good for People. Everyone won't be FAT any longer.
Billy Ringo

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03/30/2022 09:16 AM

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The disruptions in gas supply will be short term. The markets will adjust with alternate sources in place within weeks or months.


What will not be forgotten is Putin's threats to cut off supply and his naive bully gamesmanship. Russian gas will no longer be seen as a viable alternative, only as back-up or spot market purchase.

Never forget--the customer wields ultimate power in the long-term. They write the checks. Putin has pissed off his customers and threatened their supply. That will not serve him nor his Russian production capabilities well in the future.

Putin screwed the Russians, not the EU.
I am Billy Ringo and I approve of this message. Paid for by belligerent derelicts for Ringo.
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03/30/2022 09:16 AM
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We get very little gas from russia, it's all a bunch of fear porn never ending nonsense by that dickhead creep cheater with the mask on, pedo loser fraud biden..
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03/30/2022 09:16 AM
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Pro Tip: Drinking your own urine is a healthy form of hydration!

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03/30/2022 09:17 AM
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For the “summer is coming” group and those thinking they can find other ways to cook without gas.

38% of Europe’s electric generation is from natural gas powered generators. That cannot be replaced in a hurry. Nuclear plants would have to be built.

No gas, electric brown outs continent wide. No heat, no AC, no cooking, no internet.

Better get those EU leaders to go out and buy some rubles right now!
 Quoting: docsquat


Oh yeah!

This is going to filter into the USA, people have no clue.
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03/30/2022 09:19 AM
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Putin loses economic war against West. West will be happy to convert to alternative energy including nuke plants which will make Putins oil fields worthless.
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There is a giant gap between here and there. Good luck.
Anonymous Coward
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03/30/2022 09:21 AM
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It's not so much that buying gas in Rubles is a big deal, it's that Putin will set a dodgy exchange rate thus ripping Europe off for it even more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77356555


In War, Bombing and Killing a bunch of Civilians is Harassment.
Also, cutting off the gas supply, or water supply is also just harassment.
(it's hard on morale)
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03/30/2022 09:21 AM
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Germans be like...

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Meanwhile in Russia

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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Fuck putin and all the retards here supporting him...

this site is nothing but bullshit propaganda anymore
Anonymous Coward
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03/30/2022 09:25 AM
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Re: If Putin cuts off gas
FACT: Progressive Democrats in the USA are totally full of shit and will NEVER adopt nuclear energy.
StopsniffinmeBrandon

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03/30/2022 09:25 AM
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Re: If Putin cuts off gas
Putin loses economic war against West. West will be happy to convert to alternative energy including nuke plants which will make Putins oil fields worthless.
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There is a giant gap between here and there. Good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81925390


Germany shut down their nuclear plants, and tried switching to solar, unfortunately for them, Germany has too much cloud cover, too much of the time, and the solar panels weren't generating much output. Wind and solar are pipe dreams.
Anonymous Coward
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03/30/2022 09:26 AM
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Re: If Putin cuts off gas
James Bond reopens the Russian gas to Europe pipeline!

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03/30/2022 09:26 AM
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Germans be like...

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Meanwhile in Russia

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Tess.


Fuck putin and all the retards here supporting him...

this site is nothing but bullshit propaganda anymore
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82651989


People like you are a clown show!

Buh bye!
Anonymous Coward
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03/30/2022 09:27 AM
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Re: If Putin cuts off gas
It's not so much that buying gas in Rubles is a big deal, it's that Putin will set a dodgy exchange rate thus ripping Europe off for it even more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77356555


.....and poor ol Europe , they never ripped anyone orf ...
just like America never attacked another country unlawfully hey bud ?
Anonymous Coward
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03/30/2022 09:27 AM
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We get very little gas from russia, it's all a bunch of fear porn never ending nonsense by that dickhead creep cheater with the mask on, pedo loser fraud biden..
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Bout 30% for US
CouldBeRight

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03/30/2022 09:27 AM
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Re: If Putin cuts off gas
For the “summer is coming” group and those thinking they can find other ways to cook without gas.

38% of Europe’s electric generation is from natural gas powered generators. That cannot be replaced in a hurry. Nuclear plants would have to be built.

No gas, electric brown outs continent wide. No heat, no AC, no cooking, no internet.

Better get those EU leaders to go out and buy some rubles right now!
 Quoting: docsquat


75 percent of income from gas would be cut off if Russia does that. Their number one customer is EU. And no, they cannot build pipelines over night too. It goes both ways, pal.

And EU can burn more coal so the deficit would be 10-20 percent only. A bit tight but not this bullshit no heat, no internet - scenario.
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03/30/2022 09:28 AM
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Germans be like...

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Meanwhile in Russia

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Tess.


Fuck putin and all the retards here supporting him...

this site is nothing but bullshit propaganda anymore
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82651989


yeah either that or your just a dimwit

1dunno1
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03/30/2022 09:29 AM
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IAMTHATGUY

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03/30/2022 09:29 AM
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Meh that's like 3% of our energy needs and none here has gas anything apart from BBQ.

Gonna suck being German tho!

5a
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Is Finland all nuke? If so, well done!

Surely isn't all solar!
"Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die."

“The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.”

- Amos Burton
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03/30/2022 09:29 AM
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All Europeans are going to pay for their leaders unwillingness to buy rubles, also Norwegians, since we participate in ACER - the European energy union and have several cables connecting the Norwegian powergrid to EU and UK. It is absolutely absurd that Norway, so rich in hydropower, gas and oil, now have to import energy from the common EU-grid that cost 10 times the price before those cables were introduced. Electricity used to be almost for free in Norway, now a normal household with a monthly usage ofr 2000 Kw/h pay like $500 each month.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82627254


yeahsure Why did you join the EU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80980509


There were two elections, one in 1972 and one in 1994, where the Norwegians said NO to join the EU. But the politicians still joined the EU by a backdoor, the EEC, which is like being a member but without any representation. The politicians joined the ACER too, and voted in favor of building the cables, through the wholly state-owned powercompany Statkraft.

Democracy is a fucking joke!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82627254


yeahsure Why did not the people revolt?
IAMTHATGUY

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03/30/2022 09:30 AM
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Germans be like...

https://imgur.com/a/dHM1uDC


Meanwhile in Russia

https://imgur.com/a/mmgB2aj

 Quoting: Tess.


Yea, that middle one looks totally German.
"Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die."

“The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.”

- Amos Burton
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03/30/2022 09:31 AM
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For the “summer is coming” group and those thinking they can find other ways to cook without gas.

38% of Europe’s electric generation is from natural gas powered generators. That cannot be replaced in a hurry. Nuclear plants would have to be built.

No gas, electric brown outs continent wide. No heat, no AC, no cooking, no internet.

Better get those EU leaders to go out and buy some rubles right now!
 Quoting: docsquat


Ha!

Jokes on you.

They can just use windmills and solar panels to power everything.





GLP