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When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books

 
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Escapist dreck.

No wonder the world is burning.
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Pretty sure "Worlds in Collision" was on the best sellers list in it's day. Hardly "banned".
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Astronomers do not fear bullshit.
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Contraire! I personally have known several professional Astronomers.

When it comes to progress, they seem to allow variances within a certain tolerance level, but reject out hand without scrutiny anything that is a major variance from their core philosophy and dogma. Pretty much how every science field has always been. Don't rock the boat too much or it is the tower of exile for you.
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The epitome of the flaws of peer review. It's not exclusive to astronomy either
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Sounds like Harry Seldon and his psychohistory study predicting the fall of the galactic empire in Foundation.
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The question is, who is "The Mule?"

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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Pretty sure "Worlds in Collision" was on the best sellers list in it's day. Hardly "banned".
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It was a runaway international best seller at the point at which the publisher, McMillan, was forced to drop it under a threat of a total academic boycott of all of its textbooks.

That was as close as they could legally come to banning a science book in the US in 1950.
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Escapist dreck.

No wonder the world is burning.
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Same thing happened to Professor Montagnier...
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As a long time follower and student of the “Electric Universe” cosmological model, I approve this thread.

You may find interesting the last two videos of the Thunderbolts project where the clash of cosmological views and the current crysis of cosmology is debated.

I have been called “Velikosvkian cultist” just for having interest and curiosity about this cosmological view, many Astrophysicists dread the mere idea.




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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Same thing happened to Professor Montagnier...
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And surprisingly he was also researching the electromagnetic nature of DNA and the properties of water as a “matter replicator”. He was basically confirming many ancient beliefs, those which open the door to the realization that scarcity and disease are being forcefully imposed by MSM science.
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Astronomers do not fear bullshit.
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religion comes in many forms.
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100% connection? Yes!
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100% connection? Yes!
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Astronomers do not fear bullshit.
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Astronomers REPEAT bullshit.
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clappa
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
What I find funny is the mental block they have on dark matter and energy

They say space is expanding but won’t admit time is speeding up.

Even after Einstein proved space and time are inseparable.

Once this barrier is broken we will see some real progress in science.
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Escapist dreck.

No wonder the world is burning.
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I'm writing a paper that shows if you change one assumption mass is based on, most problems in physics have an opportunity to go away and MOND has a physical mechanism.

The Sun and Earth are several orders of magnitude bigger in mass than we assume.

No new physics.

No dark matter.

a0 in MOND is from the much larger gravitational well we are in than we assume.

Our Sun is more likely to an average mass, at the moment we assume it has a tiny mass. I change that one assumption only. More Copernicum than current thinking!
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awesome!!!
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
What's his point op?

Your explanation lacks any detail on what was so threatening about his theories.
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03/09/2022 08:57 AM
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Most readers are certainly aware of Immanuel Velikovsky, who started his professional life as psychiatrist and psychoanalyst around the time of Sigmund Freud, but then later applied his experience to history, especially in the field of of geology and astronomy. He arrived there after observing psychological markers in ancient written and mythological traditions where he detected hints for a recent catastrophic past, mankind was recovering from on the mental level, similar to an individual suffering with from traumatic amnesia.

Books to start with:
* Earth in Upheaval (1955)
* Worlds in Collision (1950)
* Mankind in Amnesia (1982, his last monograph)

From his purely analytical historian's point of view he saw hints for giant electrical discharges in space between the planets and predicted that Venus is a relatively young and hot planet. I mean with high surface temperature to melt lead. Only years later, this was confirmed by the first probes landing there.

Astronomers reacted in panic to his first book publications and forced Macmillian, the largest academic publisher at that time, to retract it. It became a bestseller then at Doubleday 2 months later.

Carl Sagan was his most prominent opponent and it peaked around 1974 when scholar astronomy introduced "modern" astronomy with black holes, dark matter and all the spooky stuff we are told today.


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Excellent, read them all years ago.

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Psychiatry is satanic.
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Astronomers do not fear bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80726402


Contraire! I personally have known several professional Astronomers.

When it comes to progress, they seem to allow variances within a certain tolerance level, but reject out hand without scrutiny anything that is a major variance from their core philosophy and dogma. Pretty much how every science field has always been. Don't rock the boat too much or it is the tower of exile for you.
 Quoting: Housedad


Exactly. Anything that could flip the table of what we know is rejected by 99% of mainstream people. Fact. Even if it's all true n proven.
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
More classic GLP

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Thread: A strange coincidence....(26000 years) Super wave theory & Dr LaViolette predictions [PART 2]

When we crossed the galactic plane marked by a new baktun in Mayan astronomy/2012. We entered a more violent part of the solar system

More potential for meteor strike, cosmic dust, ect.

The elite want to disguise these changes as climate change but n fact it’s off world imo.
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More dark matter too, which brings out the worst energy whatever it's near. Near humans = humans act like goddamn violent idiots
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
What I find funny is the mental block they have on dark matter and energy

They say space is expanding but won’t admit time is speeding up.

Even after Einstein proved space and time are inseparable.

Once this barrier is broken we will see some real progress in science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82264303


Einstein "proved" nothing.

He never did a physical experiment, and simply dismissed the Aether with a wave of his hand.

His equations HAD TO work out, you see?

Einstein was the worst thing that ever happened to Natural Science, aka "Physics."

drevil
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
The guy read classics and proceeded to rewrite the solar system story...
based on texts lol
like the stories of the gods were really about the planets
how stupid is this?
fuck science, the book says
sounds like biblethumping to me
and there's a definitve apoc doom flavor
he had to modify the texts to make it fit

him and Chan

both rtards from the 50s

content used by modern trolls to b8t the uneducated gullibles

enjoy the show!
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Astronomers do not fear bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80726402


Contraire! I personally have known several professional Astronomers.

When it comes to progress, they seem to allow variances within a certain tolerance level, but reject out hand without scrutiny anything that is a major variance from their core philosophy and dogma. Pretty much how every science field has always been. Don't rock the boat too much or it is the tower of exile for you.
 Quoting: Housedad


DOGMA: Dogma is a belief or set of beliefs that is accepted by the members of a group without being questioned or doubted.

For example:
Viruses have been isolated.
The vaccine is safe and effective.
Lock-downs are effective.
Social distancing is effective.
Masks are effective.

Curiosity is discouraged
All the answers have been found by the appointed experts
Just listen to the experts, they know it all

Sadly the list of dogmatic beliefs is nearly endless
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
The guy read classics and proceeded to rewrite the solar system story...
based on texts lol
like the stories of the gods were really about the planets
how stupid is this?
fuck science, the book says
sounds like biblethumping to me
and there's a definitve apoc doom flavor
he had to modify the texts to make it fit

him and Chan

both rtards from the 50s

content used by modern trolls to b8t the uneducated gullibles

enjoy the show!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82242288


Spoken like a true acolyte of the standard cosmology church.

“Congrats for your faithfulness to the dogma, brother.”
All great truths begin as Blasphemies.
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Astronomers do not fear bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80726402


Contraire! I personally have known several professional Astronomers.

When it comes to progress, they seem to allow variances within a certain tolerance level, but reject out hand without scrutiny anything that is a major variance from their core philosophy and dogma. Pretty much how every science field has always been. Don't rock the boat too much or it is the tower of exile for you.
 Quoting: Housedad


DOGMA: Dogma is a belief or set of beliefs that is accepted by the members of a group without being questioned or doubted.

For example:
Viruses have been isolated.
The vaccine is safe and effective.
Lock-downs are effective.
Social distancing is effective.
Masks are effective.

Curiosity is discouraged
All the answers have been found by the appointed experts
Just listen to the experts, they know it all

Sadly the list of dogmatic beliefs is nearly endless
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The Scientism is settled!

Trust the Scientism!

pennywise
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Reading now it is in scribd thanks!
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Books to start with:
* Earth in Upheaval (1955)
* Worlds in Collision (1950)
* Mankind in Amnesia (1982, his last monograph)

 Quoting: McKracken


I have these books:

Worlds In Collision - Immanuel Velikovsky - 1950
Ages in Chaos - Immanuel Velikovsky - 1952
Earth in Upheaval - Immanuel Velikovsky - 1955

I need to order the Amnesia book it seems now.
"Fiat Lux et Veritas"
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Astronomers do not fear bullshit.
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correct. they fear the truth. That's why he was banned.
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Re: When astronomy feared a psychiatrist telling them about the past and banned his books
Pretty sure "Worlds in Collision" was on the best sellers list in it's day. Hardly "banned".
 Quoting: G. House


That's why it was banned, it got too much attention.
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