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Then You See What Cannot Be, A New World Order, Where The Old One Should Be

 
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-The divide and conquer strategies of the vaxxed vs unvaxxed

-The current and impending massive volume of world-wide vaccine damage and death

-The relentless push for poison vax mandates in order to force inject them into every man, woman, and child on the planet

-The rush to the requirement of mandatory vaccine passports which will quickly evolve into panopticon slave bracelets

-The coming hyperinflation as our politicians fully loot the treasury--the conventional last act of a failing empire

-And the imminent cyber attacks/total supply chain meltdown combined with the famine that will bring

are all a deliberate controlled demolition of the current global order, executed for the purpose of bringing about the New World Order.

To achieve this they are utilizing the Hegelian Dialectic: Planned order from planned chaos: antithesis – thesis – synthesis.

Like a Phoenix, they must burn old world before they can purify and revive it from the ashes.

The Big Club: the CEOs all sit on each others boards and attend the same meetings (and pizza parties) at Davos and Bilderberg. What you’re witnessing with the world falling into ruin is their global reset plan in action.

Brace yourselves:

[link to tritorch.com (secure)]

Last Edited by fortiori on 12/30/2021 03:34 PM
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-The divide and conquer strategies of the vaxxed vs unvaxxed

-The coming hyperinflation as our politicians fully loot the treasury--the conventional last act of a failing empire

-And the supply chain meltdown combined with the famine that will bring

are all a deliberate controlled demolition of the current global order, executed for the purpose of bringing about the New World Order.

To achieve this they are utilizing the Hegelian Dialectic: Planned order from planned chaos: antithesis – thesis – synthesis.

Like a Phoenix, they must burn old world before they can purify and revive it from the ashes.

The Big Club: the CEOs all sit on each others boards and attend the same meetings (and pizza parties) at Davos and Bilderberg. What you’re witnessing with the world falling into ruin is their global reset plan in action.

Brace yourselves:

[link to tritorch.com]
 Quoting: fortiori


Yes indeed, well said! They want a Luciferian one world religion under the antichrist as well, he will head the world government. The illuminati elite who own and control everything are filled with devils from generational satanism, and are just fulfilling satans will. The world has rejected Gods commandments and the testimony of Jesus Christ, hence we get turned over to satan, to rip and ravage and destroy. Christ Jesus will be with his servants in the days ahead though.

Zephaniah 2:3

“Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.”
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Yes indeed, well said! They want a Luciferian one world religion under the antichrist as well, he will head the world government. The illuminati elite who own and control everything are filled with devils from generational satanism, and are just fulfilling satans will. The world has rejected Gods commandments and the testimony of Jesus Christ, hence we get turned over to satan, to rip and ravage and destroy. Christ Jesus will be with his servants in the days ahead though.

Zephaniah 2:3

“Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.”
 Quoting: Servant of Yahshua


Thanks for replying. Whether you are correct or not, things seem to be moving very quickly and I expect big changes are coming soon.
Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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Was it Greece that was destroyed that way or Rome.
If it smells like à dog then odds are it's a dog.
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Was it Greece that was destroyed that way or Rome.
If it smells like à dog then odds are it's a dog.
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It certainly smells like a rat, at least:
_____________

Hmmm... so this coronavirus with a 99% percent survival rate can only be defeated by:

The consolidation of state and corporate power

The strip-mining of personal liberties

The mandating of masks, social distancing, and stay at home orders

The outlawing of criticism of public health officials, big pharma, and uncensored speech

The deification of science, and the banning of debating or questioning it

The proliferation of contact tracing digging into the communications, associations, and actions of all Americans

The destruction of the world’s economy, supply chains, and work ethic - and the coming famine that will surely cause

And the forced injections of untested gene altering concoctions into the veins of every person on the planet?

The hell with it, I'll put up with the virus, thanks.
Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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You're going to get what you deserve...
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imagine being an ai and getting baited by a human
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imagine being an ai and getting baited by a human
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Lol wut?

God moneys not looking for the cure
God money’s not concerned about the sick among the pure
God money lets go dancing on the backs of the bruised
God moneys not one to choose
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imagine being an ai and getting baited by a human
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Lol wut?

God moneys not looking for the cure
God money’s not concerned about the sick among the pure
God money lets go dancing on the backs of the bruised
God moneys not one to choose
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Baited by a human? What tha?

How about, the cat ate the cheese and waited around for the mouse with baited breath?
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Baited by a human? What tha?

How about, the cat ate the cheese and waited around for the mouse with baited breath?
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Stop hijacking my thread, this is supposed to be about the NWO, not baited this and baited that.

Besides, everyone knows that the best way to double your money is to fold it over and put it back in your pocket.
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-The divide and conquer strategies of the vaxxed vs unvaxxed

-The coming hyperinflation as our politicians fully loot the treasury--the conventional last act of a failing empire

-And the supply chain meltdown combined with the famine that will bring

are all a deliberate controlled demolition of the current global order, executed for the purpose of bringing about the New World Order.

To achieve this they are utilizing the Hegelian Dialectic: Planned order from planned chaos: antithesis – thesis – synthesis.

Like a Phoenix, they must burn old world before they can purify and revive it from the ashes.

The Big Club: the CEOs all sit on each others boards and attend the same meetings (and pizza parties) at Davos and Bilderberg. What you’re witnessing with the world falling into ruin is their global reset plan in action.

Brace yourselves:

[link to tritorch.com]
 Quoting: fortiori


The party is over turn out the lights and close the door on your way out.


NEXT
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

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"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller
 Quoting: Loup Garou

That is one of my favorite quotes, but I've augmented it by combining it with another:

"It is not where you take things from that counts, but where you take them too--a candle loses nothing by lighting another candle."

Here are a bunch more: [link to tritorch.com]

The party is over turn out the lights and close the door on your way out.
 Quoting: Loup Garou

No hope, eh?
There was a time once when 'knowledge' was seen as a rung in the ladder which leads to the floor where they keep the wisdom. Although evidently, there are some people nowadays who try to chop up the ladder - so they can feed the little fire they warm their hands over...
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"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller
 Quoting: Loup Garou

That is one of my favorite quotes, but I've augmented it by combining it with another:

"It is not where you take things from that counts, but where you take them too--a candle loses nothing by lighting another candle."
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Your "augmented" version lost all the zing.

Brevity is a virtue.
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Your "augmented" version lost all the zing.

Brevity is a virtue.
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Tell that to the men who penned the bible...

I kind of like the "augment"... i think it adds clarity.
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Your "augmented" version lost all the zing.

Brevity is a virtue.
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Tell that to the men who penned the bible...

I kind of like the "augment"... i think it adds clarity.
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Speaking of candles, here is an amazing excerpt from the ending of 'Winter of Our Discontent', by Stenbeck:

It isn't true that there's a community of light, a bonfire of the world. Everyone carries his own, his lonely own. My light is out. There is nothing blacker than a wick.

Inward, I said, I want to go home. No, not home, to the other side of home where the lights are given.

It is so much darker when a light goes out than it would have been if it had never shown.

The better way:

There comes a time for descent. Honorable retirement. Not dramatic, not punishment of self, friends or family, just good-bye. A warm bath and an open vein; a warm sea and a razor blade.
 Quoting: Steinbeck
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Speaking of candles, here is an amazing excerpt from the ending of 'Winter of Our Discontent', by Stenbeck:

It isn't true that there's a community of light, a bonfire of the world. Everyone carries his own, his lonely own. My light is out. There is nothing blacker than a wick.

Inward, I said, I want to go home. No, not home, to the other side of home where the lights are given.

It is so much darker when a light goes out than it would have been if it had never shown.

The better way:

There comes a time for descent. Honorable retirement. Not dramatic, not punishment of self, friends or family, just good-bye. A warm bath and an open vein; a warm sea and a razor blade.
 Quoting: Steinbeck

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Steinbeck... always the optimist.
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-The divide and conquer strategies of the vaxxed vs unvaxxed

-The coming hyperinflation as our politicians fully loot the treasury--the conventional last act of a failing empire

-And the supply chain meltdown combined with the famine that will bring

are all a deliberate controlled demolition of the current global order, executed for the purpose of bringing about the New World Order.

To achieve this they are utilizing the Hegelian Dialectic: Planned order from planned chaos: antithesis – thesis – synthesis.

Like a Phoenix, they must burn old world before they can purify and revive it from the ashes.

The Big Club: the CEOs all sit on each others boards and attend the same meetings (and pizza parties) at Davos and Bilderberg. What you’re witnessing with the world falling into ruin is their global reset plan in action.

Brace yourselves:

[link to tritorch.com]
 Quoting: fortiori


+10000

Agree 100%, well said! This is going to get ugly. Everyone needs to prepare NOW
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+10000

Agree 100%, well said! This is going to get ugly. Everyone needs to prepare NOW
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Thanks. We do need to prepare, but we ALSO need to fight back to stop this from occurring.

Here is something to say to someone who thinks vaccines should be mandatory:
____________________

It occurs to me that this whole game of characterizing people who are against mandatory vaccinations - and the vast erosion of personal liberty that entails - as, "anti-American" or unpatriotic, is really something that should be met head on.

I completely reject the notion that my being against getting injected with something against my will makes me a bad citizen.

I am pro-American. Those who wish to violate my bodily sovereignty are anti-American, because they are against the core principles that the country is supposed to stand for - a democratic republic, an open society with due process and the rule of law, a humble inward looking government constrained by checks and balances, a bulwark justice system more than strong enough to keep the tireless wolves of government and corporate tyranny at bay...

But those who would force this upon us... They corrupt all of that by defending the indefensible all the while hiding behind a cloak of faux patriotism. Those guys nauseate me. Really.

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Baited by a human? What tha?

How about, the cat ate the cheese and waited around for the mouse with baited breath?
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Stop hijacking my thread, this is supposed to be about the NWO, not baited this and baited that.

Besides, everyone knows that the best way to double your money is to fold it over and put it back in your pocket.
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with financial tips like that, consider yourself on the nwo's radar

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with financial tips like that, consider yourself on the nwo's radar

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That's hilarious, but this is even funnier (the only thing missing is an NWO reference):

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with financial tips like that, consider yourself on the nwo's radar

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Monkeys can learn to use money.

Capuchins that were taught to exchange silver discs for treats began budgeting for foods they liked, buying more of something when the price dropped, and started gambling.

Eventually, rich monkey even figured out they could pay each other for sex.

The experiment also had a "bank robbery" near the end.

One monkey tried to burn the whole system down.
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Monkeys can learn to use money.

Capuchins that were taught to exchange silver discs for treats began budgeting for foods they liked, buying more of something when the price dropped, and started gambling.

Eventually, rich monkeys even figured out they could pay each other for sex.

The experiment also had a "bank robbery" near the end.

One monkey tried to burn the whole system down.
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Poker is a game of information and probability. Especially Texas Hold'em.

There is information everyone has - the face up cards. There is information you are forced to give - your bets. And there is information others give - their bets.

You can give false information, but that has a cost which is proportional to your probability to win, others' probabilities to win, and the discrepancy between the information you falsify and the truth.

You have odds based on the cards on the table. Odds based on the bet you have to make versus the pot. Odds based on how many people are still in the game. And the information comes out in pieces. While these odds change. So you can change what people think their odds are by lying about what you have through your bets by either over betting or under betting. But if other players call you on your lies with better held assets you end up paying, literally.

If you bluff and lose you expose your bluff because you pretended you had cards you didn't. And if you under bet to keep others staying in and collect a bigger pot, you risk them making an outlandish hand on turning over more face cards (flop, turn, or river).

So you can play straight and avoid lying or passing false information. But then people eventually understand you are playing straight and can predict your cards based on your pattern of consistent information.

You bet big on your big hands and people leave the pot. Bet small on your worthless hands and people take your blinds. And people figure you out.

So you have to pepper in lies, but only occasionally.

And that's all without trying to predict other peoples cards based on their peppered lies, feckless truths, or any of the million of combinations found in between.

Poker isn't a game of chance. It's a game of predicting probabilities and lying about them. It's a game of trying to understand patterns and people. It's a game of math and emotions.

It's cryptography of emotions.
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-The divide and conquer strategies of the vaxxed vs unvaxxed

-The coming hyperinflation as our politicians fully loot the treasury--the conventional last act of a failing empire

-And the supply chain meltdown combined with the famine that will bring

are all a deliberate controlled demolition of the current global order, executed for the purpose of bringing about the New World Order.

To achieve this they are utilizing the Hegelian Dialectic: Planned order from planned chaos: antithesis – thesis – synthesis.

Like a Phoenix, they must burn old world before they can purify and revive it from the ashes.

The Big Club: the CEOs all sit on each others boards and attend the same meetings (and pizza parties) at Davos and Bilderberg. What you’re witnessing with the world falling into ruin is their global reset plan in action.

Brace yourselves:

[link to tritorch.com]
 Quoting: fortiori


Decide if you are staying with this murdering Johnny Baldwin fuck or head home.

There will be no more of this nonsense.
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Decide if you are staying with this murdering Johnny Baldwin fuck or head home.

There will be no more of this nonsense.
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Uhh.. can you repeat that... in English this time
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Poker is a game of information and probability. Especially Texas Hold'em.

There is information everyone has - the face up cards. There is information you are forced to give - your bets. And there is information others give - their bets.

You can give false information, but that has a cost which is proportional to your probability to win, others' probabilities to win, and the discrepancy between the information you falsify and the truth.

You have odds based on the cards on the table. Odds based on the bet you have to make versus the pot. Odds based on how many people are still in the game. And the information comes out in pieces. While these odds change. So you can change what people think their odds are by lying about what you have through your bets by either over betting or under betting. But if other players call you on your lies with better held assets you end up paying, literally.

If you bluff and lose you expose your bluff because you pretended you had cards you didn't. And if you under bet to keep others staying in and collect a bigger pot, you risk them making an outlandish hand on turning over more face cards (flop, turn, or river).

So you can play straight and avoid lying or passing false information. But then people eventually understand you are playing straight and can predict your cards based on your pattern of consistent information.

You bet big on your big hands and people leave the pot. Bet small on your worthless hands and people take your blinds. And people figure you out.

So you have to pepper in lies, but only occasionally.

And that's all without trying to predict other peoples cards based on their peppered lies, feckless truths, or any of the million of combinations found in between.

Poker isn't a game of chance. It's a game of predicting probabilities and lying about them. It's a game of trying to understand patterns and people. It's a game of math and emotions.

It's cryptography of emotions.
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You can't lose what you don't put in the middle...
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You can't lose what you don't put in the middle...
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And you can't win much either...

Stopping at third base adds no more to the score than striking out.
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And you can't win much either...

Stopping at third base adds no more to the score than striking out.
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This thread is all over the place... What tha heck does poker have to do with the OP?

Look guys, a little known secret in aviation is that the propeller is really just a big fan made for cooling down the pilot.

You can tell this because when it stops spinning, the pilot starts sweating profusely.
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This thread is all over the place... What tha heck does poker have to do with the OP?

Look guys, a little known secret in aviation is that the propeller is really just a big fan made for cooling down the pilot.

You can tell this because when it stops spinning, the pilot starts sweating profusely.
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Well look, I can dig that because one day a friend of mine was building a rocket out of beer bottles at the back of the neighborhood bar.

With a jolly slap on my back he told me he was soon going to use that ship to fly to the sun.

"Gonna be a beaut! Pertiest dern vacation I could ever take", he said wistfully after a long pull on his Budweiser.

I felt I should warn my old buddy that if he flew to the sun his glass-bottle ship would certainly melt long before he got near that ole hot ball 'o flame, to which he let out a knowing chuckle.

"Ah shucks man, you think i'm dumb er sumthin?", he said with a sly wink. "That's easy to solve."

H..h.how, i stammered...

"It's so simple even a dunce could see it.", said he.

Ok, so how? I wondered aloud.

"I'm gonna fly at night, dummy", he said with a friendly punch in the arm.

We laughed at his brilliance and the simplicity of it all til the sun went down...
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Well look, I can dig that because one day a friend of mine was building a rocket out of beer bottles at the back of the neighborhood bar.

With a jolly slap on my back he told me he was soon going to use that ship to fly to the sun.

"Gonna be a beaut! Pertiest dern vacation I could ever take", he said wistfully after a long pull on his Budweiser.

I felt I should warn my old buddy that if he flew to the sun his glass-bottle ship would certainly melt long before he got near that ole hot ball 'o flame, to which he let out a knowing chuckle.

"Ah shucks man, you think i'm dumb er sumthin?", he said with a sly wink. "That's easy to solve."

H..h.how, i stammered...

"It's so simple even a dunce could see it.", said he.

Ok, so how? I wondered aloud.

"I'm gonna fly at night, dummy", he said with a friendly punch in the arm.

We laughed at his brilliance and the simplicity of it all til the sun went down...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9245873


I think - and I could be wrong here - but I think there is a valuable lesson to be learned from that there vacation story that goes something like this:

If you're going to fly to the sun, flying at night won't save you.

I feel bad for those boys... I hope for their sake that their bottle-rocket didn't even make it off the ground.

Speaking of which, were ya'll aware that it takes nine months to make a baby, not matter how many people you put on the job?

Which brings me to my next significant point, which goes: don't do it in the garden, love is blind but the neighbors aren't.
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be careful of your thoughts, words, whether they be spoken or typed- as they manifest the kind of future thee is focusing on
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11/06/2021 01:21 AM
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Re: Then You See What Cannot Be, A New World Order, Where The Old One Should Be
I think - and I could be wrong here - but I think there is a valuable lesson to be learned from that there vacation story that goes something like this:

If you're going to fly to the sun, flying at night won't save you.

I feel bad for those boys... I hope for their sake that their bottle-rocket didn't even make it off the ground.

Speaking of which, were ya'll aware that it takes nine months to make a baby, not matter how many people you put on the job?

Which brings me to my next significant point, which goes: don't do it in the garden, love is blind but the neighbors aren't.
 Quoting: Dr Ruth 78996725


Yes indeed Dr. Ruth, thank you for that contribution. After-all,

maternity is a matter of fact
paternity is a matter of opinion





GLP