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Below is something I wrote in 2018 (check the original posts for the date) while testing the waters to see if anyone was interested in hearing more about the CIA/DoD/immune system/virus research going on back in the day.

The response I got essentially said "it's not sexy enough" so I never went into depth.

Well, kids, it's 2021.

Are you ready for the rest of the story yet?

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D. AIDS and the CIA (another lovely dinner story..pass the peas please)
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The radiation...
i.e. her only legit on the books career.

Mkay. I'm just going to let this one cross over into AIDS and kill two birds with one stone. Her stories bore me. Heard them too many times.


The dinner story:

"Back in the 60s" she was working in the science field on a DoD contract. They were giving cancer to and irradiating everything from mice to primates. This was to "learn more about what they could do for soldiers exposed on the field during nuclear war."

One day she "was lost in the science building and accidentally took a wrong turn" at which point she "accidentally went through two sealed doors and walked into a germ-free lab" thus "contaminating all of the primates that had been painstakingly raised since birth without an immune system."

All the primates died, thus putting the lab in question on the top of the list to get the AIDS virus so they could kill off immune systems more effectively the next time.

She then "quit because it was all so horrifying, that big mean DoD."

I put quotes around half of that because -

A) These events, if they happened, occurred in the 80s and not the 60s. I remember when she came home all excited about it. I'm not old enough to have been alive in the 60s.

B) She still worked for the same people, never quit.

C) I don't trust any reasons she gives and neither should you.

D) The lab in question required access through a vault door before you even got to the double set of doors for containment. No one accidentally walks into that.



Let's walk away from dinner theater for a moment

Yes, the lab did receive some AIDS infected monkeys to play with. I got to visit them. It was kind of absolutely terrifying to be that close to a virus we knew so little about at the time.

Unfortunately, that's not where it ended. Her coworker at the time got access, via at outreach team at her work, to the needle exchange program for the drug addict community in an impoverished section of town.

Suddenly, more than 95% of those drug addicts tested had AIDS. This was completely disproportionate to anything we had seen elsewhere, including San Francisco. That one neighborhood rocked our town into the top ten list of cities with AIDS. If they had considered the neighborhood alone, it would have been number one by a mile.

According to what the two said over dinner when it was just us three at the table, they had been intentionally infecting the community for research purposes.

Over the next few years, I assume while they were waiting for the AIDS to do its job in their community petri dish, she would take a geiger counter onto the train and use that radiation monitor to go looking for and pinpoint people who had recent radiation therapy, at which point she would recruit them into studies.

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Do tell more.
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Are you sure you can handle it?

Or should I waste another six months first to find where I wrote about the first dinner table conversation (the one I am willing to tell you now, not the one posted above) in a post sometime in 2012, assuming it hasn't been scrubbed or buried by now?
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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Are you sure you can handle it?

Or should I waste another six months first to find where I wrote about the first dinner table conversation (the one I am willing to tell you now, not the one posted above) in a post sometime in 2012, assuming it hasn't been scrubbed or buried by now?
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The only way to know is to read/hear it. If you're comfortable enough to post it, I will read it. I may not understand everything, your level of science is way over mine, but I'd like to try.

Thanks, Owl.
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Are you sure you can handle it?

Or should I waste another six months first to find where I wrote about the first dinner table conversation (the one I am willing to tell you now, not the one posted above) in a post sometime in 2012, assuming it hasn't been scrubbed or buried by now?
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I can handle it.
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People have learned a lot since the virus and may be more willing to listen to you.
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Alright.

I've told this original dinner story several times over the years, so if someone needs to fact-check that I didn't get bored during the pandemic and come up with it in the past two years, it shouldn't be impossible to verify. A pain, but not impossible.

As you can see, what I already reposted in the OP was from 2018.

So again, this is not a COVID larp. I told these things before 2020.

I was trying to warn people. But it can be difficult when you have information that people either a) don't want to believe or b) have no reason to because they cannot confirm your authority. Especially when it's big information. It doesn't help that I'm not the perpetrator, so I don't have all the information myself either.

I did try to tell people. I spent pretty much the past decade trying to very slowly drop hints and test the waters to see if anyone was willing to listen.

This is the dinner story I started posting around 2012. Prior to that, I was too terrified to speak.

The original dinner

I was adopted into a family of Department of Defense scientists, angry ones, mostly recruited from other countries during war times.

When I was around four or five, there was a dinner get-together.

They were discussing how to make a walking pneumonia that could not be cured by modern or future scientists.

They wanted to create something that was end game.

They wanted to combine something like herpes (ie incurable) with a virus that causes pneumonia.


Fast forward to the dinner conversation in my original post

One of the scientists got their hands on the AIDS virus (an incurable virus), through some really deceptive practices (contaminating the prior primates), as mentioned in that post (it's linked at the beginning of this thread).


Fast forward a bit more

This last part, I never posted because no one ever listened for long enough for me to say it. No one was interested.

Around 1993, give or take a couple of years, I was sitting in one of the rooms in a lab building associated with the AIDS project, stuffing envelopes. there were maybe 300-400 envelopes, going out to scientists and interested parties all over the globe.

The conversation I was listening to between one of the lab leads and one of the supervisors was that the project was complete.

They had spliced AIDS into a cold virus.

However, it would take something crazy like 18 months to a couple of years to replicate it due to not having the right technology available yet. So, they put it on the back shelf.

Fast forward again

About a decade ago (you can check the dates, I'm a little fuzzy on it), CRISPR technology came out. That was the one thing they had been missing.

Fast forward again

In the beginning of 2020, some of the first scientists to look at SARS-CoV-2 started pointing to the HIV-1 insert on the virus.


The blood drained from every one of my extremities when I read that.

I think it's reasonable to see why.

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I'm recovering from walking pneumonia, but I'm suspicious that it's chemical poisoning instead of a virus.

Are you insinuating that perhaps I won't be able to get over it, it's a permanent fixture now with HIV? What happened to all these people saying HIV was never really a problem of you know how to treat it as the elite who got it lived a long time?
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I'm recovering from walking pneumonia, but I'm suspicious that it's chemical poisoning instead of a virus.

Are you insinuating that perhaps I won't be able to get over it, it's a permanent fixture now with HIV? What happened to all these people saying HIV was never really a problem of you know how to treat it as the elite who got it lived a long time?
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Your guess is as good as mine.

I've just told you what I know.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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wow, so intriguing
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I’m all ears. Pinned.
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Can anyone link to the articles that came out of AU showing covid vaccinated individuals began testing positive for HIV? News said it was “false positives,” I believe..
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Here we go:
"...The backers of Australia’s homegrown COVID-19 vaccine candidate, earlier this week, announced a halt to its further development, after some of the first people to receive the vaccine in a safety trial generated antibodies to an unintended target, the AIDS virus. A small fragment of an HIV protein is a component of the vaccine used to add stability to the intended antibody target, the spike protein of the pandemic coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, Science Mag reported. Unfortunately, that HIV fragment also generated antibodies that could confuse diagnostic tests. Researchers recognized the possibility that the HIV component might invoke an immune response. But, “It was unexpected that the levels induced would interfere with certain HIV tests,” reads a joint statement announcing the halt of the candidate’s development that was posted online by UQ and CSL- Science Mag reported."
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“And perhaps worst of all, the discoverer of HIV himself (Luc Montagnier) warned as early as March 2020 that SARS-CoV-2 contained HIV fragments that are highly unlikely to be of natural origin, and also that any COVID-19 vaccine based on mRNA will have a risk of triggering HIV/AIDS. He is, by definition, the expert on HIV but this time instead of telling us to "listen to the experts" mainstream media either did not even mention his statements or immediately labelled him as insane, disturbed, etc.”
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airbourne AIDS. Fuckin eh.
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Here’s another link about AU scrapping a covid vaccine that gave people HIV [link to themarshallreport.wordpress.com (secure)]
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Oh, man. It’s been awhile but I remember you from other threads awhile back and have found everything you shared very credible.

Please tell us more about anything and everything you can.

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Oh, man. It’s been awhile but I remember you from other threads awhile back and have found everything you shared very credible.

Please tell us more about anything and everything you can.

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Oh, that pretty much sums up that story. I was a kid through a teen in those years. Lots of dinner table conversation and getting dragged along to help with filing, envelope stuffing, the tedious parts of information collection for research, etc.

I've done my due diligence and have my own theories regarding how this trainwreck will play out, but I'm mostly just observing, just like everyone else.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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Here’s another link about AU scrapping a covid vaccine that gave people HIV [link to themarshallreport.wordpress.com (secure)]
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Yeah. The link between COVID and AIDS keeps popping up over time no matter how much people try to squash it.

It's almost like the truth can't be buried forever or something.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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The one commonality?

All involve HOMOSEXUALS.

AIDS is the gay scourge spread by bi men to their whore wives.

CIA hires queers almost exclusively.
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Here’s another link about AU scrapping a covid vaccine that gave people HIV [link to themarshallreport.wordpress.com (secure)]
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Yeah. The link between COVID and AIDS keeps popping up over time no matter how much people try to squash it.

It's almost like the truth can't be buried forever or something.
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Your one post terrified me to no end years ago.

"Hellooo, it's airborne AIDS! Why does no one want to talk about it?"
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Here’s another link about AU scrapping a covid vaccine that gave people HIV [link to themarshallreport.wordpress.com (secure)]
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Yeah. The link between COVID and AIDS keeps popping up over time no matter how much people try to squash it.

It's almost like the truth can't be buried forever or something.
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Your one post terrified me to no end years ago.

"Hellooo, it's airborne AIDS! Why does no one want to talk about it?"
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because that kind of doom is so scary even the glp experiences cognitive dissonance.
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The various inserts spliced onto the gained corona virus (most notably HIV/AIDS) clearly indicate vaccine research at the Wuhan lab. "Scientists" are trying to develop vaccines and weapons that can be distributed by attaching them to a highly contagious virus. State of the art vaccination program--once introduced into a population, the spliced vaccine (rabies or ebola or AIDS or malaria etc) spreads readily by airborne infection throughout the target "patients". No syringes needed for inoculation, no nurses or doctors needed, no clinics or offices needed, and importantly, no permissions required either. Attach your vaccine spike to a highly contagious gained cold or flu virus and let it rip. These research capabilities all pioneered by the biowarfare folks. Bad nasties, and tailored killing agents can also be attached. The kill rate of Covid19 is miniscule compared to what could escape or be created. How about a 10 percenter not just one tenth of one percent as per Covid19. 30 percent???!!! What do you think that would do to supply chains and society? How about a disease that eliminates the rice crop, or a rust that eliminates wheat. Research on these methods is ongoing at Wuhan, and Universities, Institutions, and labs all over the world.
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Betrayal the pto and the wrath of the San andreas same thing...geeez
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Hi, I think you will enjoy this Dark Journalist episode if you haven't seen it already.

He covers an elite Eugenics cult based out of Pasadena connected to the inventors of the IQ test and Stanford University as well as a Dr. suspected of being responsible for the Black Dahlia and Zodiac murders.



What is interesting to note and connect to the train of thought in this thread is that the eugenics movement and unethical human experimentation really began in the US prior to WW2. The Nazis get blamed for it but really what they were doing was considerably less than what was already going on in the states and what continued after the War.

The Nuremberg codes are a joke to these people. They experiment with impunity and it is perfectly logical that they would be attempting to depopulate the planet with a virus.


Fauci was a key figure in AIDS research back in the early 80's.

This whole program reeks of eugenics.

Even if we assume good intentions for the vaccine effort and that they actually want to cure the disease and help people the program still looks like eugenics.

They want the good genes and right now they are telling us the spike protein is the good gene but growing spike proteins on your cells does not sound like a good idea to me.

HIV/AIDS of course also is covered in spike proteins...
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Here’s another link about AU scrapping a covid vaccine that gave people HIV [link to themarshallreport.wordpress.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Starry Like


Yeah. The link between COVID and AIDS keeps popping up over time no matter how much people try to squash it.

It's almost like the truth can't be buried forever or something.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft

Your one post terrified me to no end years ago.

"Hellooo, it's airborne AIDS! Why does no one want to talk about it?"
 Quoting: Monzsta


because that kind of doom is so scary even the glp experiences cognitive dissonance.
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Yep.

I'm thinking it'll be another two years before it really finally sinks in, even here.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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Good (short) read on MUllis vs Fauci which goes back to the 'AIDs days'.

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Trump stated on many occasions that the world would be AIDS free in 10 years. Can anyone speak to this?
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Check out John Rappoport’s blog. He investigated the HIV theory in the 80’s and he makes the claim that the virus does not exist. Same with COVID.





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