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AIDS, the CIA, and the stuff you never wanted to face

 
TlvmmCpoft  (OP)

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Check out John Rappoport’s blog. He investigated the HIV theory in the 80’s and he makes the claim that the virus does not exist. Same with COVID.
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Then what the hell was wrong with the monkeys that I was standing face to face with in that lab?

Seriously, those things were not happy.
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Trump stated on many occasions that the world would be AIDS free in 10 years. Can anyone speak to this?
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If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it's related to wishful thinking combined with science, summed up in this:

"Phase I clinical trial of an intranodally administered mRNA-based therapeutic vaccine against HIV-1 infection" (2018)

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

I'd also point out that their wishful thinking rarely actually pans out.

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Trump stated on many occasions that the world would be AIDS free in 10 years. Can anyone speak to this?
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If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it's related to wishful thinking combined with science, summed up in this:

"Phase I clinical trial of an intranodally administered mRNA-based therapeutic vaccine against HIV-1 infection" (2018)

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

I'd also point out that their wishful thinking rarely actually pans out.

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You know they've done the clinical trials to be relatively sure of their success.
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Trump stated on many occasions that the world would be AIDS free in 10 years. Can anyone speak to this?
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If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it's related to wishful thinking combined with science, summed up in this:

"Phase I clinical trial of an intranodally administered mRNA-based therapeutic vaccine against HIV-1 infection" (2018)

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

I'd also point out that their wishful thinking rarely actually pans out.

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You know they've done the clinical trials to be relatively sure of their success.
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That early trial doesn't test much.

As people in 2021 are slowly learning about early trials...finally.

And I have seen plenty of failed trials in my life. Science and research are full of failures. It's just that, prior to this year, they didn't usually so blatantly package and sell those failures to you.
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Alright.

I've told this original dinner story several times over the years, so if someone needs to fact-check that I didn't get bored during the pandemic and come up with it in the past two years, it shouldn't be impossible to verify. A pain, but not impossible.

As you can see, what I already reposted in the OP was from 2018.

So again, this is not a COVID larp. I told these things before 2020.

I was trying to warn people. But it can be difficult when you have information that people either a) don't want to believe or b) have no reason to because they cannot confirm your authority. Especially when it's big information. It doesn't help that I'm not the perpetrator, so I don't have all the information myself either.

I did try to tell people. I spent pretty much the past decade trying to very slowly drop hints and test the waters to see if anyone was willing to listen.

This is the dinner story I started posting around 2012. Prior to that, I was too terrified to speak.

The original dinner

I was adopted into a family of Department of Defense scientists, angry ones, mostly recruited from other countries during war times.

When I was around four or five, there was a dinner get-together.

They were discussing how to make a walking pneumonia that could not be cured by modern or future scientists.

They wanted to create something that was end game.

They wanted to combine something like herpes (ie incurable) with a virus that causes pneumonia.


Fast forward to the dinner conversation in my original post

One of the scientists got their hands on the AIDS virus (an incurable virus), through some really deceptive practices (contaminating the prior primates), as mentioned in that post (it's linked at the beginning of this thread).


Fast forward a bit more

This last part, I never posted because no one ever listened for long enough for me to say it. No one was interested.

Around 1993, give or take a couple of years, I was sitting in one of the rooms in a lab building associated with the AIDS project, stuffing envelopes. there were maybe 300-400 envelopes, going out to scientists and interested parties all over the globe.

The conversation I was listening to between one of the lab leads and one of the supervisors was that the project was complete.

They had spliced AIDS into a cold virus.

However, it would take something crazy like 18 months to a couple of years to replicate it due to not having the right technology available yet. So, they put it on the back shelf.

Fast forward again

About a decade ago (you can check the dates, I'm a little fuzzy on it), CRISPR technology came out. That was the one thing they had been missing.

Fast forward again

In the beginning of 2020, some of the first scientists to look at SARS-CoV-2 started pointing to the HIV-1 insert on the virus.


The blood drained from every one of my extremities when I read that.

I think it's reasonable to see why.
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Airborne AIDS. Probably to be released in a couple more variants.

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We then come to the question of whether AIDS is itself a natural or manmade disease. What are your thoughts?
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We then come to the question of whether AIDS is itself a natural or manmade disease. What are your thoughts?
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God knows.

I wasn't in Africa in the late 1970s.

Was Bill Gates?
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We then come to the question of whether AIDS is itself a natural or manmade disease. What are your thoughts?
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God knows.

I wasn't in Africa in the late 1970s.

Was Bill Gates?
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I've heard they've found evidence of it back in the 1880s or so. But nothing can be trusted, and I'm used to acting based on peer-reviewed research.
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Below is something I wrote in 2018 (check the original posts for the date) while testing the waters to see if anyone was interested in hearing more about the CIA/DoD/immune system/virus research going on back in the day.

The response I got essentially said "it's not sexy enough" so I never went into depth.

Well, kids, it's 2021.

Are you ready for the rest of the story yet?

.....

D. AIDS and the CIA (another lovely dinner story..pass the peas please)
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The radiation...
i.e. her only legit on the books career.

Mkay. I'm just going to let this one cross over into AIDS and kill two birds with one stone. Her stories bore me. Heard them too many times.


The dinner story:

"Back in the 60s" she was working in the science field on a DoD contract. They were giving cancer to and irradiating everything from mice to primates. This was to "learn more about what they could do for soldiers exposed on the field during nuclear war."

One day she "was lost in the science building and accidentally took a wrong turn" at which point she "accidentally went through two sealed doors and walked into a germ-free lab" thus "contaminating all of the primates that had been painstakingly raised since birth without an immune system."

All the primates died, thus putting the lab in question on the top of the list to get the AIDS virus so they could kill off immune systems more effectively the next time.

She then "quit because it was all so horrifying, that big mean DoD."

I put quotes around half of that because -

A) These events, if they happened, occurred in the 80s and not the 60s. I remember when she came home all excited about it. I'm not old enough to have been alive in the 60s.

B) She still worked for the same people, never quit.

C) I don't trust any reasons she gives and neither should you.

D) The lab in question required access through a vault door before you even got to the double set of doors for containment. No one accidentally walks into that.



Let's walk away from dinner theater for a moment

Yes, the lab did receive some AIDS infected monkeys to play with. I got to visit them. It was kind of absolutely terrifying to be that close to a virus we knew so little about at the time.

Unfortunately, that's not where it ended. Her coworker at the time got access, via at outreach team at her work, to the needle exchange program for the drug addict community in an impoverished section of town.

Suddenly, more than 95% of those drug addicts tested had AIDS. This was completely disproportionate to anything we had seen elsewhere, including San Francisco. That one neighborhood rocked our town into the top ten list of cities with AIDS. If they had considered the neighborhood alone, it would have been number one by a mile.

According to what the two said over dinner when it was just us three at the table, they had been intentionally infecting the community for research purposes.

Over the next few years, I assume while they were waiting for the AIDS to do its job in their community petri dish, she would take a geiger counter onto the train and use that radiation monitor to go looking for and pinpoint people who had recent radiation therapy, at which point she would recruit them into studies.

....
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For interest.

I think the story is fascinating.
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Why create an airborne virus that can't be treated? Are they invincible themselves?
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Why create an airborne virus that can't be treated? Are they invincible themselves?
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No. Not invincible. Just very angry.

For one example...

My grandfather in that family, a scientist, was a war criminal because he did what his country asked him to and worked on what were essentially some of the first dirty bombs (a mixture of naturally derived radioactive and other elements).

You can point your finger and go "Oh, bad man!" but his personal experience was one of anger, loss, and betrayal by his own country. He was never allowed to go home. He lost his wife and children when they didn't follow him to America, which was the only country he could go to through the recruitment channels at that time. They were offering him protection.

You might see that as America being his savior and him having something he should be grateful for.

But it eats at a person. It really does. And sometimes you reach a point where, because you have nowhere to truly call home and because you aren't allowed your own family or country, and because you aren't allowed those basic building blocks of a life, because you have nothing left to lose and already feel dead with nothing to live for - then no one else is worthy of life either.

As I said, it's anger.

Sometimes, it's as simple as that.

Have you never been truly angry?
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Why create an airborne virus that can't be treated? Are they invincible themselves?
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No. Not invincible. Just very angry.

For one example...

My grandfather in that family, a scientist, was a war criminal because he did what his country asked him to and worked on what were essentially some of the first dirty bombs (a mixture of naturally derived radioactive and other elements).

You can point your finger and go "Oh, bad man!" but his personal experience was one of anger, loss, and betrayal by his own country. He was never allowed to go home. He lost his wife and children when they didn't follow him to America, which was the only country he could go to through the recruitment channels at that time. They were offering him protection.

You might see that as America being his savior and him having something he should be grateful for.

But it eats at a person. It really does. And sometimes you reach a point where, because you have nowhere to truly call home and because you aren't allowed your own family or country, and because you aren't allowed those basic building blocks of a life, because you have nothing left to lose and already feel dead with nothing to live for - then no one else is worthy of life either.

As I said, it's anger.

Sometimes, it's as simple as that.

Have you never been truly angry?
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I remember on the show 'Fringe' I couldn't get over the fact that the scientist who is the main character experimented on children. My roommate and I got into a big argument about the legitimacy of his repentance. I said there seemed to be a lot of shows putting out feelers for whether people who worked on such projects were capable of forgiveness--that is, capable of being forgiven. There are those of us who have been scrupulously punished for every transgression, even for some things that aren't actually transgressions. Is it reasonable to ask of us that people who while just following orders made a deal with the Devil not be made to give the Devil his due?
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Y'all remember the CIA heart attack gun?

Well "They" also have a Gene Gun.

Sounds fun right?

You feel nothing or a small drop of water on the arm and voila you are now infected with anything from DNA or RNA to a virus or cancer!

A pandemic is a great time to remove some undesirables or those who know too much. Put on a mask to avoid facial recognition software and call it a covid death.


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Y'all remember the CIA heart attack gun?

Well "They" also have a Gene Gun.

Sounds fun right?

You feel nothing or a small drop of water on the arm and voila you are now infected with anything from DNA or RNA to a virus or cancer!

A pandemic is a great time to remove some undesirables or those who know too much. Put on a mask to avoid facial recognition software and call it a covid death.


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Quit giving them ideas.
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Well that was interesting. My great uncle was gay in the 70's and 80's and lived in San Fran. He died of aids when I was 8 and I watched him deteriorate. It was awful. His butt would bleed when he sat on a toilet because his skin had become so thin that we had to buy a super cushioned toilet seat for my great grandmother's house. He basically looked like a skeleton with skin and purple bruises all over when he finally passed. He was in so much pain. Aids is real, I can vouch for that. I have said from the beginning that I think this is some kind of new pneumonia.
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Very good thread. I've seen some things myself and can concur. There is much to be afraid of. All is not as it appears. The lines have been crossed and there's no turning back now. :(
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Well that was interesting. My great uncle was gay in the 70's and 80's and lived in San Fran. He died of aids when I was 8 and I watched him deteriorate. It was awful. His butt would bleed when he sat on a toilet because his skin had become so thin that we had to buy a super cushioned toilet seat for my great grandmother's house. He basically looked like a skeleton with skin and purple bruises all over when he finally passed. He was in so much pain. Aids is real, I can vouch for that. I have said from the beginning that I think this is some kind of new pneumonia.
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I'm sorry about your family member. One of our connected labs was in San Francisco. I have zero doubt that they were testing on the gay population there.
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There have been a few new AIDS/CIA posts on the forum since I first posted this yesterday. I kind of get the feeling they're just shills, but maybe one's just a genuine knee-jerk reaction.

I'm going to pin this thread against my own better judgment. I really don't think it's sexy enough, not even in 2021. That or it'll get buried in the whole left-right, right-wrong, my cure-your cure divide. As always, everything gets buried other than what was intentionally served with enough of an emotional trigger to bury everything else.

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Only one problem with the whole HIV virus, There is a cure and I personally know people who have been cured.

Sodium chlorite, mixed with an acid, creates chlorine dioxide, it cures HIV and herpes virus's. In fact all known virus's
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Check out John Rappoport’s blog. He investigated the HIV theory in the 80’s and he makes the claim that the virus does not exist. Same with COVID.
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I've read a lot of stuff about "HIV/AIDS", including many articles by Jon, and I agree with him.

Like "COVID", "HIV/AIDS" was an invented boogeyman used to encourage certain groups of people to get the recommended "treatment."

Naturally, the "treatment" is, effectively, the "killshot."

In the case of "HIV/AIDS", the killer treatment was a terrible drug named AZT, which was SO toxic that it had been rejected for use as cancer "chemotherapy."

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Hey OP what happened to these family members or people involved in making the virus?

If what you're are saying is true I'd like to know if Karma is paying them back. Did they suffer in other ways, in personal life etc.

Covid has HIV and sars spiced together.

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Check out John Rappoport’s blog. He investigated the HIV theory in the 80’s and he makes the claim that the virus does not exist. Same with COVID.
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Then what the hell was wrong with the monkeys that I was standing face to face with in that lab?

Seriously, those things were not happy.
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No virus has ever been isolated, ever, anywhere in the world.
Virus is an idea not an actuality.

Most likely, those monkeys were subjected to experiments, god only knows what toxins they were exposed to or what procedures they had to suffer through.
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still not sexy enough.
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Check out John Rappoport’s blog. He investigated the HIV theory in the 80’s and he makes the claim that the virus does not exist. Same with COVID.
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I've read a lot of stuff about "HIV/AIDS", including many articles by Jon, and I agree with him.

Like "COVID", "HIV/AIDS" was an invented boogeyman used to encourage certain groups of people to get the recommended "treatment."

Naturally, the "treatment" is, effectively, the "killshot."

In the case of "HIV/AIDS", the killer treatment was a terrible drug named AZT, which was SO toxic that it had been rejected for use as cancer "chemotherapy."

drevil
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Guess who was behind the HIV virus / vaccine nonsense.
Surprise, surprise it's that psychopath Fauci... will wonders never cease.
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I'm recovering from walking pneumonia, but I'm suspicious that it's chemical poisoning instead of a virus.

Are you insinuating that perhaps I won't be able to get over it, it's a permanent fixture now with HIV? What happened to all these people saying HIV was never really a problem of you know how to treat it as the elite who got it lived a long time?
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Your guess is as good as mine.

I've just told you what I know.
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There is a ton of suspicion due to Fauci's involvement over the HIV. I do think there are likely natural ways to live a long life with it.

My own personal thinking on those who died from it is that it's not a big deal until you stress your body out with other STDs and opiates. Opiate addicts are severely lacking proper nutrition.
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it's the drugs to treat aids that Killed, NOT Aids it self.
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i guess that explains the 'sores' some people are coming down with /HIV SORES
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