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| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498  United Kingdom08/23/2021 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consider this: Quoting: Sol-Kathos The Earth, Sun, all heavenly bodies are electric in Nature. They possess electrical fields, exhibit electrical behaviour. All these bodies are conscious, in the way that structured energy can respond to stimuli. Being large, complex, conscious entities, it is not out of the question that these entities can actively change their electrical properties. You also have this ability through various breathing exercises. If these entities had to purge themselves of an affliction, a method they could employ would be to alter the electrical properties of themselves, and by extension, the properties of smaller, connected electrical systems (you). They could then alter the electrical properties of people who are no longer acting in the interests of the planet to negatively respond to the electrical forces that produce the phenomenon known as gravity. The result of this would be all people who were no longer beneficial to the planet having their electrical charge reversed so they would literally float upwards, off the planet, resulting in death. What does that sound like to you.....  It sounds like you've been drinking the sheepdip.  |
| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom08/24/2021 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to believe in the pre trib rapture like my church teaches. I believe it will come but we will have to suffer first to be "refined like silver." Quoting: Overdue My church taught that we would be out of here by now! I believe if Christ came back now there would not be alot to take back! We are in the refining stage now! It will get worse before its better!  You have to pay attention to what the Bible says, most churches seem to play fast and loose with the truth nowadays, although you might be fortunate enough to go to a Bible believing church. Non of us knows when the Rapture will happen, we have to be ready today but also understand that we could well die in the Lord before that great day arrives.The important thing is to have an ongoing personal relationship with the Lord and live life as best you can. |
| REaliZe
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5858810 United States08/24/2021 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to believe in the pre trib rapture like my church teaches. I believe it will come but we will have to suffer first to be "refined like silver." Quoting: Overdue My church taught that we would be out of here by now! I believe if Christ came back now there would not be alot to take back! We are in the refining stage now! It will get worse before its better! :german7: You have to pay attention to what the Bible says, most churches seem to play fast and loose with the truth nowadays, although you might be fortunate enough to go to a Bible believing church. Non of us knows when the Rapture will happen, we have to be ready today but also understand that we could well die in the Lord before that great day arrives. The important thing is to have an ongoing personal relationship with the Lord and live life as best you can. Yes, I agree with you. That is the only sure foundation you can have in this life. Our Father knows us better than we know ourselves. Because He made us. |
| Joe Nemo
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| Soteria
User ID: 75244248 United States08/24/2021 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rapture is pagan myth, created during the 19th century, by a spiritist who also believed in alien abductions. Quoting: Informer 2021 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Darby claimed that Jesus was actually alien, and that he would return from a planet called nibiru. Quoting: Informer 2021   You should not just make stuff up as you go along.Indeed. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8 nkjv Soteria... The Bible's use of Soteria indicates its etymology from Greek mythology, as the word is used to mean "fourfold salvation: saved from the penalty, power, presence and most importantly the pleasure of sin." |
| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom08/24/2021 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sad that some "rapture supporter" goes out of their way to downvote others that simply don't agree with their own opinion, long whining notes too! Quoting: Buzzbuzz Fanatic, is the term that springs to mind, will you be stealing harp strings from other angels if you break one of your own? I'm going to pay off a Heavenly archery cherub to fire a huge rubber sucker arrow right onto your forehead!  So where you born dumb and stupid, or did you have to work at it? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41886936 United States08/24/2021 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’ll add this video. He has several but this is a shorter one for you guys with short attention spans like me Quoting: Mug  [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] In reference to that video, I think the way he uses “Christians” as in “all christians” will not go through the tribulation is incorrect. SOME Christians will NOT go thru “ great tribulation” SOME Christians WILL go thru “great tribulation” Did anyone forget, there are WISE and there are FOOLISH virgins? SOME Christians are READY. The WISE ones are. SOME Christians have OIL in their lamps. The WISE ones do. The FOOLISH ones DON’T have oil in their lamps and are putzing around still playing games with God, still listening and trusting in what their pastor tells them, than going to God Himself and learning of HIM. SOME Christians are still playing around with their sins, thinking they get a free pass because they said a sinner’s prayer years ago, and God has their back because their a “King’s kid”. They don’t want to obey their Master. Those are FOOLISH Christians because they don’t do what Jesus clearly told them to do in the word. They don’t take their walk with Him seriously. They mess around. Now tell me, WHO do you think will “ be caught up “ FIRST? “ "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy [to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”(Matthew 7:13-14) SOME Christians WILL BE HERE through the tribulation. Some WILL NOT. SOME will give their lives for the Truth’s sake because that is what saves their souls. The tribulation will WISE THEM UP FAST. everyone on this planet is in the great tribulation now... LOOK |
| Soteria
User ID: 75244248 United States08/24/2021 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rapture is pagan myth, created during the 19th century, by a spiritist who also believed in alien abductions. Quoting: Informer 2021 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Darby claimed that Jesus was actually alien, and that he would return from a planet called nibiru. Quoting: Informer 2021 You should not just make stuff up as you go along.He did create the craze that is the Pre-tribulation rapture in 1830. Unless you don't like facts...  Ah well if we are speaking of facts.Then I will admit that I'm quite curious about how John Nelson Darby was 1...a spiritualist. 2..."claimed that Jesus was actually alien, and that he would return from a planet called nibiru." 3...'create the craze that is the Pre-tribulation rapture in 1830'. Quite apart from anything else what do you think 'The dead in Christ will rise first' means. To most people it means those who have died believing in the Lord and the reresection for the last nearly 2,000 years. So obviously the Word of the Lord has been out there long before John Nelson Darby was born. And the fact that you and others are attacking this man who was faithfully preaching the Word of the Lord tells me that you think nothing of playing fast and loose with the truth. Why should anybody believe you, your just another liar. Certainly not! Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar. Romans 3:4a Whatever we believe, if it does not bring us closer to God and to have the love like Jesus had, that belief is vanity. Soteria... The Bible's use of Soteria indicates its etymology from Greek mythology, as the word is used to mean "fourfold salvation: saved from the penalty, power, presence and most importantly the pleasure of sin." |
| Soteria
User ID: 75244248 United States08/24/2021 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I want to believe in the pre trib rapture like my church teaches. I believe it will come but we will have to suffer first to be "refined like silver." Quoting: Overdue My church taught that we would be out of here by now! I believe if Christ came back now there would not be alot to take back! We are in the refining stage now! It will get worse before its better! Every prayer of repentance purifies us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9 nkjv Last Edited by Soteria on 08/24/2021 03:05 PM Soteria... The Bible's use of Soteria indicates its etymology from Greek mythology, as the word is used to mean "fourfold salvation: saved from the penalty, power, presence and most importantly the pleasure of sin." |
| REaliZe
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| Soteria
User ID: 75244248 United States08/24/2021 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’ll add this video. He has several but this is a shorter one for you guys with short attention spans like me Quoting: Mug [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] In reference to that video, I think the way he uses “Christians” as in “all christians” will not go through the tribulation is incorrect. SOME Christians will NOT go thru “ great tribulation” SOME Christians WILL go thru “great tribulation” Did anyone forget, there are WISE and there are FOOLISH virgins? SOME Christians are READY. The WISE ones are. SOME Christians have OIL in their lamps. The WISE ones do. The FOOLISH ones DON’T have oil in their lamps and are putzing around still playing games with God, still listening and trusting in what their pastor tells them, than going to God Himself and learning of HIM. SOME Christians are still playing around with their sins, thinking they get a free pass because they said a sinner’s prayer years ago, and God has their back because their a “King’s kid”. They don’t want to obey their Master. Those are FOOLISH Christians because they don’t do what Jesus clearly told them to do in the word. They don’t take their walk with Him seriously. They mess around. Now tell me, WHO do you think will “ be caught up “ FIRST? “ "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy [to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”(Matthew 7:13-14) SOME Christians WILL BE HERE through the tribulation. Some WILL NOT. SOME will give their lives for the Truth’s sake because that is what saves their souls. The tribulation will WISE THEM UP FAST. You're not even citing the KJV are you? What? The NIV? Or another "new" edited version that has been proven to be altered to serve the "new world" agenda? You do know all the modern day English version "bibles" are altered and even have scriptures removed from the KJV version right? You know that these new altered versions you are citing Matthew 7:12-13 from also replace Jesus with Lucifer as the "Morning Star" right? No. None of us are "worthy" of a pre trib rapture. Those of you banking on it just fear having to prove your real worth to Him. Prove you actually have real faith in Him. Which we will all have to do. Jesus tells us so just before the Tribulation begins in Revelation: Rev 3:21-22 KJV 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches What did Jesus overcome again? No rapturist can even begin to explain WHY the mark will be what the mark will be. Which is a big deal since the mark IS here and now. With rapturists its always about their opinions and beliefs vs the TRUE WORD of the LORD. Do you honestly know what it means to divide HIS Word properly? It's an absolute must per the instruction of the Lord. You cannot divide the Word properly by using the New World versions of it when they removed verses and altered other ones to sculpt their desired interpretation of it. That is indeed HERESY. And you are citing it far as I can tell- because you sure are not citing KJV/Hbr/Grk The Lord forewarned us of this: 2 Timothy 4:2-4 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables After the "rapture" lie was fostered in the 19c. many scared believers followed their itching ears after it because it soothed their fears of the Lord's wrath. Now false prophets like Isaiah Saldivar are making 100s of 1000s of $ "teaching" the same thing on the internet that you thought you were teaching me earlier. False prophecy sells. Real prophecy scares the weak. Real prophecy empowers the chosen. There is a HUGE change in one key word in Revelation from the KJV to these New World modern fraud bibles you appear to be citing "scripture" from. It just so happens to be one that rapturists cling to. It's this- also in Revelation 3: The KJV version of 3:10 reads: 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth But in the NIV and other New World versions like whatever you are citing from? 3:10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth When someone reads the Lord will come to keep them from the hour of "trial" they might think they are getting that free pass you are sure you're getting. But when it comes to "temptation"? That just means those who keep His Commandments and statutes will be kept from choosing the mark in the hour of temptation. That is the Lord's true Word. Meaning we all face the mark choice- which means we all face at least a part of the Trib. The understanding of HIS WORD over one's opinion requires deeper understanding, zero fear, and TRUE FAITH. How can anyone divide His Word properly by adding a non existent word to His Book? They can't. What part of “ some are going sooner than others “ do you not get? Oh, yeah, you don’t understand that there are different harvests. I surely would like to read your understanding of there being different harvests and what groups go with each harvest. Thank you in advance. Regarding the above red bolded, I agree that there will be Christians on earth to the end of tribulation based upon these scriptures spoken by Jesus: 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. Mt 24:21-22 nkjv I would think that the elect are the most steadfast, strongest Christians to withstand all that will come to pass. Last Edited by Soteria on 08/24/2021 03:49 PM Soteria... The Bible's use of Soteria indicates its etymology from Greek mythology, as the word is used to mean "fourfold salvation: saved from the penalty, power, presence and most importantly the pleasure of sin." |
| Baloney
User ID: 75923721 United States08/24/2021 04:19 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOPE. the tribulation hasn't even begun yet. yes there is much going on, but the 7 year tribulation period doesn't start until the bride is raptured, and the antichrist is unveiled per Daniel 9:26 in which he confirms a covenant between Israel and the many. The "bride" are those who belong to Jesus, the only begotten son of GOD, and the only saviour, messiah, and christ that there is. He is the ONLY WAY to eternal life with the Father in heaven. That is where those raptured and resurected are taken to heaven where they attend the marriage supper of the lamb.. time is short, get saved today. Last Edited by Baloney on 08/24/2021 04:20 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5858810 United States08/24/2021 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Very Interesting In reference to that video, I think the way he uses “Christians” as in “all christians” will not go through the tribulation is incorrect. SOME Christians will NOT go thru “ great tribulation” SOME Christians WILL go thru “great tribulation” Did anyone forget, there are WISE and there are FOOLISH virgins? SOME Christians are READY. The WISE ones are. SOME Christians have OIL in their lamps. The WISE ones do. The FOOLISH ones DON’T have oil in their lamps and are putzing around still playing games with God, still listening and trusting in what their pastor tells them, than going to God Himself and learning of HIM. SOME Christians are still playing around with their sins, thinking they get a free pass because they said a sinner’s prayer years ago, and God has their back because their a “King’s kid”. They don’t want to obey their Master. Those are FOOLISH Christians because they don’t do what Jesus clearly told them to do in the word. They don’t take their walk with Him seriously. They mess around. Now tell me, WHO do you think will “ be caught up “ FIRST? “ "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy [to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”(Matthew 7:13-14) SOME Christians WILL BE HERE through the tribulation. Some WILL NOT. SOME will give their lives for the Truth’s sake because that is what saves their souls. The tribulation will WISE THEM UP FAST. You're not even citing the KJV are you? What? The NIV? Or another "new" edited version that has been proven to be altered to serve the "new world" agenda? You do know all the modern day English version "bibles" are altered and even have scriptures removed from the KJV version right? You know that these new altered versions you are citing Matthew 7:12-13 from also replace Jesus with Lucifer as the "Morning Star" right? No. None of us are "worthy" of a pre trib rapture. Those of you banking on it just fear having to prove your real worth to Him. Prove you actually have real faith in Him. Which we will all have to do. Jesus tells us so just before the Tribulation begins in Revelation: Rev 3:21-22 KJV 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches What did Jesus overcome again? No rapturist can even begin to explain WHY the mark will be what the mark will be. Which is a big deal since the mark IS here and now. With rapturists its always about their opinions and beliefs vs the TRUE WORD of the LORD. Do you honestly know what it means to divide HIS Word properly? It's an absolute must per the instruction of the Lord. You cannot divide the Word properly by using the New World versions of it when they removed verses and altered other ones to sculpt their desired interpretation of it. That is indeed HERESY. And you are citing it far as I can tell- because you sure are not citing KJV/Hbr/Grk The Lord forewarned us of this: 2 Timothy 4:2-4 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables After the "rapture" lie was fostered in the 19c. many scared believers followed their itching ears after it because it soothed their fears of the Lord's wrath. Now false prophets like Isaiah Saldivar are making 100s of 1000s of $ "teaching" the same thing on the internet that you thought you were teaching me earlier. False prophecy sells. Real prophecy scares the weak. Real prophecy empowers the chosen. There is a HUGE change in one key word in Revelation from the KJV to these New World modern fraud bibles you appear to be citing "scripture" from. It just so happens to be one that rapturists cling to. It's this- also in Revelation 3: The KJV version of 3:10 reads: 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth But in the NIV and other New World versions like whatever you are citing from? 3:10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth When someone reads the Lord will come to keep them from the hour of "trial" they might think they are getting that free pass you are sure you're getting. But when it comes to "temptation"? That just means those who keep His Commandments and statutes will be kept from choosing the mark in the hour of temptation. That is the Lord's true Word. Meaning we all face the mark choice- which means we all face at least a part of the Trib. The understanding of HIS WORD over one's opinion requires deeper understanding, zero fear, and TRUE FAITH. How can anyone divide His Word properly by adding a non existent word to His Book? They can't. What part of “ some are going sooner than others “ do you not get? Oh, yeah, you don’t understand that there are different harvests. I surely would like to read your understanding of there being different harvests and what groups go with each harvest. Thank you in advance. Regarding the above red bolded, I agree that there will be Christians on earth to the end of tribulation based upon these scriptures spoken by Jesus: 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. Mt 24:21-22 nkjv I would think that the elect are the most steadfast, strongest Christians to withstand all that will come to pass. ... Quoting: Very Interesting In reference to that video, I think the way he uses “Christians” as in “all christians” will not go through the tribulation is incorrect. SOME Christians will NOT go thru “ great tribulation” SOME Christians WILL go thru “great tribulation” Did anyone forget, there are WISE and there are FOOLISH virgins? SOME Christians are READY. The WISE ones are. SOME Christians have OIL in their lamps. The WISE ones do. The FOOLISH ones DON’T have oil in their lamps and are putzing around still playing games with God, still listening and trusting in what their pastor tells them, than going to God Himself and learning of HIM. SOME Christians are still playing around with their sins, thinking they get a free pass because they said a sinner’s prayer years ago, and God has their back because their a “King’s kid”. They don’t want to obey their Master. Those are FOOLISH Christians because they don’t do what Jesus clearly told them to do in the word. They don’t take their walk with Him seriously. They mess around. Now tell me, WHO do you think will “ be caught up “ FIRST? “ "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy [to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.”(Matthew 7:13-14) SOME Christians WILL BE HERE through the tribulation. Some WILL NOT. SOME will give their lives for the Truth’s sake because that is what saves their souls. The tribulation will WISE THEM UP FAST. You're not even citing the KJV are you? What? The NIV? Or another "new" edited version that has been proven to be altered to serve the "new world" agenda? You do know all the modern day English version "bibles" are altered and even have scriptures removed from the KJV version right? You know that these new altered versions you are citing Matthew 7:12-13 from also replace Jesus with Lucifer as the "Morning Star" right? No. None of us are "worthy" of a pre trib rapture. Those of you banking on it just fear having to prove your real worth to Him. Prove you actually have real faith in Him. Which we will all have to do. Jesus tells us so just before the Tribulation begins in Revelation: Rev 3:21-22 KJV 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches What did Jesus overcome again? No rapturist can even begin to explain WHY the mark will be what the mark will be. Which is a big deal since the mark IS here and now. With rapturists its always about their opinions and beliefs vs the TRUE WORD of the LORD. Do you honestly know what it means to divide HIS Word properly? It's an absolute must per the instruction of the Lord. You cannot divide the Word properly by using the New World versions of it when they removed verses and altered other ones to sculpt their desired interpretation of it. That is indeed HERESY. And you are citing it far as I can tell- because you sure are not citing KJV/Hbr/Grk The Lord forewarned us of this: 2 Timothy 4:2-4 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables After the "rapture" lie was fostered in the 19c. many scared believers followed their itching ears after it because it soothed their fears of the Lord's wrath. Now false prophets like Isaiah Saldivar are making 100s of 1000s of $ "teaching" the same thing on the internet that you thought you were teaching me earlier. False prophecy sells. Real prophecy scares the weak. Real prophecy empowers the chosen. There is a HUGE change in one key word in Revelation from the KJV to these New World modern fraud bibles you appear to be citing "scripture" from. It just so happens to be one that rapturists cling to. It's this- also in Revelation 3: The KJV version of 3:10 reads: 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth But in the NIV and other New World versions like whatever you are citing from? 3:10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth When someone reads the Lord will come to keep them from the hour of "trial" they might think they are getting that free pass you are sure you're getting. But when it comes to "temptation"? That just means those who keep His Commandments and statutes will be kept from choosing the mark in the hour of temptation. That is the Lord's true Word. Meaning we all face the mark choice- which means we all face at least a part of the Trib. The understanding of HIS WORD over one's opinion requires deeper understanding, zero fear, and TRUE FAITH. How can anyone divide His Word properly by adding a non existent word to His Book? They can't. What part of “ some are going sooner than others “ do you not get? Oh, yeah, you don’t understand that there are different harvests. I surely would like to read your understanding of there being different harvests and what groups go with each harvest. Thank you in advance. Regarding the above red bolded, I agree that there will be Christians on earth to the end of tribulation based upon these scriptures spoken by Jesus: 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. Mt 24:21-22 nkjv I would think that the elect are the most steadfast, strongest Christians to withstand all that will come to pass. Ok so, basically what I mean is that God uses patterns, types and shadows to illustrate spiritual principals and truths from scripture. The rapture ( the real word from scripture is harpazo ie a “catching up”) is being compared to “harvests” in scripture. For example, in the Old Testament, the Israelites were told to gather in certain HARVESTS at CERTAIN times. The BARLEY harvest ALWAYS preceded the WHEAT harvest. In other words, the BARLEY harvest CAME BEFORE the WHEAT harvest in scripture. There was a very good reason for this. BARLEY always ripened EARLIER than WHEAT. Another way of saying it is BARLEY came to MATURITY faster than the WHEAT. Unlike our modern day holidays that we celebrate today, the Israelites, and the early Christians celebrated the FEASTS of the LORD. The BARLEY harvest is associated with Passover, or the feast of unleavened bread. The WHEAT harvest is associated with Pentecost. PASSOVER was always celebrated before Pentecost on God’s established timetable. There are many examples and illustrations of God using Barley and wheat to teach spiritual principals. My point is, the BARLEY harvest is associated with the WISE VIRGINS who had oil in their lamps, mentioned in the parable in Mathew 25. The reason for this is that the WISE VIRGINS had MATURED EARLIER in their walks with Christ. They were not foolish. They didn’t play games with their salvation. They took the words of Jesus seriously…hence, the oil in their lamps. They were obedient servants of the Lord. What I’m trying to say is, the WISE VIRGINS will be the ones to be raptured FIRST. Because of their faithfulness. “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.“ ( Matthew 21:6) The FOOLISH VIRGINS well, were foolish. They didn’t take their relationship with Jesus seriously. They continued to sin and live foolishly and therefore did not have oil in their lamps WHEN the BRIDEGROOM ( JESUS) came for them. The WISE VIRGINS were READY. To be HARVESTED. The FOOLISH VIRGINS were NOT ready. They are associated with the WHEAT HARVEST. The great tribulation will make them ready. That’s kind of a basic outline of how scripture is telling us it will in these “last days” Different groups of believers who are READY at different times. Churches and theologians have been teaching us incorrectly for quite a while in regards to “when” the rapture is….. And, I will add that there is ALSO a HARVEST for the WICKED in scripture…it’s the GRAPE HARVEST….ie, the “ GRAPES OF WRATH”… The WICKED will receive God’s WRATH. This happens at the end of the tribulation. God’s people have NOT BEEN APPOINTED UNTO WRATH. |
| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom08/24/2021 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An alien god from Nibiru is part of the grand deception. Quoting: REaliZe Don't be deceived. God is not mocked.  Yes quite a few people have sussed it out that there is a lot more to Star Trek, Star Wars, and all the other Sci Fi that has been very popular since the end of WW II. I could see many millions of unbelievers easily falling for the trap because it fits in with their natural inclinations.In fact I had a dream once where there was a huge space craft, like in Independence Day, that in reality was nothing more than a huge stage set. Bits kept falling off it and red devils of the traditional type with forked tails where constantly diving down to catch them and take them back to patch the thing up, and keep the show in the air. I was laughing at it because the whole thing was so obviously fake. |
| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom08/25/2021 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Basically the Bible says that if you believe in fables rather than the truth you will beturned into a fable. "Once upon a time long long ago in a land far far away..." 2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. |
| Professor Indiana Jones
User ID: 80731835 United Kingdom08/25/2021 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *Time Is Near* *Dead Sea Scrolls Unlocked* *The prophecy is fulfilled this year by September 2021 and the name of Messiah is Revealed* Thread: The prophecy is fulfilled this year 2021 and the name of Messiah is Revealed NOW in Europe   CHANNEL: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom08/25/2021 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *Time Is Near* Quoting: Professor Indiana Jones *Dead Sea Scrolls Unlocked* *The prophecy is fulfilled this year by September 2021 and the name of Messiah is Revealed* Thread: The prophecy is fulfilled this year 2021 and the name of Messiah is Revealed NOW in Europe  We already know that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. And I trust no onewhen they quote from the "Dead Sea scrolls" they where kept locked away from the public for several decades and bits released in dribs and drabs. Obviously to suit the devil's agenda. Luk 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. |
| ))BAPHOMET((
User ID: 79556842 United Kingdom08/25/2021 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, let me just lay this out for you in a modern context. The rapture will happen, that is certain. Our mother earth has had a painful and difficult birth with Humanity. We are her third seed, she must be given time to refresh and renew and this happens without us. Many spheres are capable of sustaining life, but only a few have the capability of creating it in the way that earth has. It is a jewel in our cosmos. The incarnate spirit known as Jesus, who is mortal was not originally human. This is how ascended masters are both enlightened and awakened, they have pierced the veil and have become their whole being, not just their life's experience, but all of them. He's a very old chap. Being mortal means that he cannot leave, he never has. He's along for the ride just like the rest of us. Think of it this way, a captain never leaves his post. You may think he has, but he's always there. New Jareusalem, or whatever you want to call it is something to be seen. There is no craft in the entire universe that compares to this. Think of it as a special ops vehicle designed by aliens and built by God (one part of it particularly could not be created any other way, and is still hyper dimensional in it's nature. Think of it like the main support which everything else is built from. There are many experiments being run on this sphere simultaneously, some of them have not been successful and have corrupted from their origional purpose. Think the wheat and the tares. We have to understand this corruption in order to remove it OURSELVES, we must stand for our own values here. That is judgement. what are your intentions. Cosmic/Christ consciousness knows everything. Everything IS consciousness. Everything IS God, you and me too. there are three new earths waiting for us, and all of our cosmic brothers and sisters will be with us. A new age awaits. this is my understanding, from what i've been told by spirit. Faith comes in many forms, God has no favourites. LOVE IS UNCONDITIONAL blessed be If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
| ))BAPHOMET((
User ID: 79571168 United Kingdom08/25/2021 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An alien god from Nibiru is part of the grand deception. Quoting: REaliZe Don't be deceived. God is not mocked. Yes quite a few people have sussed it out that there is a lot more to Star Trek, Star Wars, and all the other Sci Fi that has been very popular since the end of WW II. I could see many millions of unbelievers easily falling for the trap because it fits in with their natural inclinations.In fact I had a dream once where there was a huge space craft, like in Independence Day, that in reality was nothing more than a huge stage set. Bits kept falling off it and red devils of the traditional type with forked tails where constantly diving down to catch them and take them back to patch the thing up, and keep the show in the air. I was laughing at it because the whole thing was so obviously fake. Are you so confident that you haven't already been deceived? Look at those who keep this information, do you trust them? the truth of reality and existence is closer to the earthy than the aether. We may be spirit, but we are BOUND by flesh. Last Edited by ))Tem Ohp Ab(( on 08/25/2021 10:29 AM If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
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| Judethz
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| ))BAPHOMET((
User ID: 79571168 United Kingdom08/25/2021 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is my understanding, from what i've been told by spirit. Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( Faith comes in many forms, God has no favourites. LOVE IS UNCONDITIONAL blessed be  You have lost your way, the Bible teaches non of this.You do realise your talking about a re-hash of the Sumerian epics? half of it's been canonised and the other half re-translated so many times. If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
| ))BAPHOMET((
User ID: 79571168 United Kingdom08/25/2021 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The biggest lie the bible tells is that a relationship with God is not possible. totally false, a method of control. this is not an exclusive club we're talking about If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
| ))BAPHOMET((
User ID: 79556842 United Kingdom08/25/2021 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you wonder what the deception has been. If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society, then i dont ever want to be normal. |
| Joe Nemo
User ID: 77533057 United States08/25/2021 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The biggest lie the bible tells is that a relationship with God is not possible. Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( That's a big lie you tell yourself. "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." Matthew 11:28-30 Last Edited by Joe Nemo on 08/25/2021 12:01 PM |
| Mrdlaw4JC
User ID: 80524522 United States08/25/2021 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOPE. the tribulation hasn't even begun yet. yes there is much going on, but the 7 year tribulation period doesn't start until the bride is raptured, and the antichrist is unveiled per Daniel 9:26 in which he confirms a covenant between Israel and the many. The "bride" are those who belong to Jesus, the only begotten son of GOD, and the only saviour, messiah, and christ that there is. He is the ONLY WAY to eternal life with the Father in heaven. That is where those raptured and resurected are taken to heaven where they attend the marriage supper of the lamb.. time is short, get saved today.  Mrdlaw4JC |
| Judethz
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| Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom08/25/2021 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it ironic that people are so blinkered by faith that they would rather take the opinion of a man who claimed ownership of the horizon, mutilated his genitals and attempted to kill his son. But when someone gives you information from SOURCE, you say i'm the one who's lost. Quoting: ))BAPHOMET(( you wonder what the deception has been.  No, you are the one who has been deceived by your prideful heart and your love of evil ways. The plain fact of the matter is that those who refuse to listen to the Lord will be done away with. There will be no place found for you on earth and hell will have to be enlarged to to accommodate the vast numbers of people who will be going there.If you die in your sins then I think that it will be much the worse for you because you stood there mocking those who where trying to tell you the truth. You have still been blessed with a little time, so don't continue to waste it. |
