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Zedakah
User ID: 80761650 United States 08/20/2021 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey gang Wife is the Doc not me. As I said this is a note to myself as much as it is to let you know. Let’s take a couple days see if we are headed in a new direction but big uptake in Covid issues in North Palm Beach Florida last 24 hours. FYI. So I am out for now on this topic. Check back in 48!! Quoting: ISLANDIA See if she will let you post a CBC from a patient (do not include patients name or personal information!). Just post the numbers in the columns. If a CBC hasn't been performed, then that needs to be done asap. Low O2 can be from many different sources, and a CBC can pinpoint problems easily. Are you thinking pneumonia masking as covid because of similar symptoms? I’m not thinking of anything specific until I see a CBC. If there was fluid in the lungs and a high count of neutrophils, then I would check for bacterial pneumonia. But low O2 could be low RBC, low hemaglobin, high WBC, pulmonary inflammation (pneumonitis), and a lot of other lesser common causes. |
Dumbgambler
User ID: 77741880 United States 08/20/2021 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These are all currently non hospitalized patients who once diagnosed were started on a regiment of Prednisone Ivermectin z pack. Quoting: ISLANDIA There’s your problem op. You don’t give the z pack and certainly not the steroid until you have cleared the virus with the ivermectin. The steroid actually suppresses your immune system. Timing is the key. Rolltideroll |
SallyValentine
User ID: 79601558 United States 08/20/2021 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, what state are you in, that Ivermectin is being used by doctors and or hospitals?? Quoting: Butch DeFeo I have no idea where OP is at but here is this- [link to www.knoe.com (secure)] Cousin in law is a NP, cousin said she was treating a lady whose liver was shutting down from Ivermectin. Don't know if she was a heavy drinker or possibly taking Warfarin or a blood thinner. Maybe she was taking too much? Idk The guy that has been taking it since April 2020 & has been to 4 different countries & hasn't been sick, is fine tho! I read your link. The thing is, we know there are parties that do not want Ivermectin used, so your link probably is some form of propaganda. We have enough doctors who work with COVID patients who say that Ivermectin works well against COVID. Apparently dr kory is reporting that it isn't working on some people. Even said he and his daughter fell ill but are recovering. I can't help but wonder if he got a scary kind of phone call. "Change the story about ivermectin or else" kind of thing. |
Dumbgambler
User ID: 77741880 United States 08/20/2021 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These are all currently non hospitalized patients who once diagnosed were started on a regiment of Prednisone Ivermectin z pack. Quoting: ISLANDIA There’s your problem op. You don’t give the z pack and certainly not the steroid until you have cleared the virus with the ivermectin. The steroid actually suppresses your immune system. Timing is the key. Go back and read the recommendations of the frontline doctors. The fine print too. Rolltideroll |
oniongrass
User ID: 80365283 United States 08/20/2021 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Patients are both Vaccinated and non vaccinated. Quoting: ISLANDIA Patients are also between 30-70 YO who do not have any underlying conditions. Something is up. Just a message to myself as much as well as informing you all. They need more than ivermectin, especially if your dealing with variants. They need 50,000 iu vitamin D i.v Zinc Quercertin Perhaps CBD oil.. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] It's almost sure they're dealing with variants, not the flavor we had in March 2020. Most Covid going around now is Delta. Lambda is reported in South America. Come to think of it, South Florida, where OP is, is very closely connected to South America. This might be Lambda saying hi America, I'm here! Agree. Its most likely more potent and evolved. Perhaps its immune to ivermectin now. Point is, none of this should be happening. The thing should have burned itself out a year ago but the vaxxes caused the variants and mutations. You've made your point but here we are. Personally I think Delta is a new amped-up creation from their lab. I have a thread that's getting ignored so far, about my understanding of what's going on generally. Thread: The vaxed and boosted are vectors for new deadlier strains of Covid . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
akaSuzanne
User ID: 78185358 United States 08/20/2021 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From my thread yesterday. From the video of Dr. Kory below: They are seeing breakthrough Covid cases in their Ivermectin preventative protocol patients as well as in vaccinated. Very ill patients are being admitted to their ICU due to the Higher viral loads, shorter incubation period and profound inflammatory response from the Delta variant. Dr. Kory and his daughter are both getting over a mild case. They recommend having everything on hand before you get sick and start the protocol as soon as any viral symptoms start. Their protocol has been updated as of 8/11. The changes include increasing Ivermectin to 0.4 mg per kg on DAY 1 of illness as well as taking it twice a week as a preventative. They emphasize that it is the delay in treatment and the very rapid increase in viral load that is making the Delta variant more difficult. They are also recommending iodine gargle / nasal rinse (info in video) dilute it to get down to 1 percent. Studies shower lower hospitalization with use of these rinses. Dr. Kory says patients are coming in in advanced disease. They have had a few patients that do not respond to treatment in the ICU. They are doing therapeutic plasma exchange with success. Thread: Dr. Kory -breakthrough cases in prophylactic Ivermectin patients - Revisions made to their protocols. Last Edited by akaSuzanne on 08/20/2021 03:30 PM |
akaSuzanne
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akaSuzanne
User ID: 78185358 United States 08/20/2021 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Kory explains the update to the FLCCC protocols on 8/11. Start at 11 min. [link to odysee.com (secure)] |
Crypto-Tard
User ID: 78144147 United States 08/20/2021 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I assume you're giving ivermectin pills for humans. Quoting: oniongrass If that supply is fxcked up, as someone suspects above, the horse ivermectin may be better. Exactly. They are going to need a lot of horses after they kill off 95% of the humans. When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life. Don't be afraid. |
akaSuzanne
User ID: 78185358 United States 08/20/2021 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, what state are you in, that Ivermectin is being used by doctors and or hospitals?? Quoting: Butch DeFeo I have no idea where OP is at but here is this- [link to www.knoe.com (secure)] Cousin in law is a NP, cousin said she was treating a lady whose liver was shutting down from Ivermectin. Don't know if she was a heavy drinker or possibly taking Warfarin or a blood thinner. Maybe she was taking too much? Idk The guy that has been taking it since April 2020 & has been to 4 different countries & hasn't been sick, is fine tho! I read your link. The thing is, we know there are parties that do not want Ivermectin used, so your link probably is some form of propaganda. We have enough doctors who work with COVID patients who say that Ivermectin works well against COVID. Apparently dr kory is reporting that it isn't working on some people. Even said he and his daughter fell ill but are recovering. I can't help but wonder if he got a scary kind of phone call. "Change the story about ivermectin or else" kind of thing. No, he clearly states Ivermectin is the most effective thing we have but the dosage needs to be higher in higher viral strains like Delta. It is in the video above. |
Catnahalf
Deplorables assemble User ID: 4485473 United States 08/20/2021 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey gang Wife is the Doc not me. As I said this is a note to myself as much as it is to let you know. Let’s take a couple days see if we are headed in a new direction but big uptake in Covid issues in North Palm Beach Florida last 24 hours. FYI. So I am out for now on this topic. Check back in 48!! Quoting: ISLANDIA See if she will let you post a CBC from a patient (do not include patients name or personal information!). Just post the numbers in the columns. If a CBC hasn't been performed, then that needs to be done asap. Low O2 can be from many different sources, and a CBC can pinpoint problems easily. Are you thinking pneumonia masking as covid because of similar symptoms? Im not a doctor but low o2 in vaxxed I would assume is the spike blocking up the small capillary that takes oxygen into the blood. They are doomed. Next up blood clots. |
Zedakah
User ID: 80761650 United States 08/20/2021 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im not a doctor but low o2 in vaxxed I would assume is the spike blocking up the small capillary that takes oxygen into the blood. They are doomed. Next up blood clots. Quoting: Catnahalf That's not how the spike protein works for vaccinated patients. Here is a breakdown I wrote yesterday. MIS-C is caused by the immune system attacking its own cells in the body. Quoting: Zedakah This can happen with any disease, but it is more common with a virus. A virus can infiltrate cells, cause the cells to produce viral proteins, which causes the immune system to attack those cells. This will then lead to inflammation (and worse). However, your white blood cells can intercept the virus itself before it infects cells. That way a healthy immune system can take care of the virus before it infects healthy cells, causing inflammation and apoptosis. The vaccine is an mRNA taken from the viral code. The mRNA is injected into the body where it will be taken up by cells. The mRNA will then enter the cell to make the spike protein, which goes to the cell membrane. This causes the immune response from your white blood cells. Here is the big problem. This vaccine passes all natural immune barriers and heads straight to infecting cells. That means that whatever cell takes up the mRNA will essentially be marked for death by your white blood cells. Now if muscle or skin tissue take up the mRNA, you will have localized inflammation in those areas, which they then can heal over time. However, if the mRNA travels around your body and is taken in by nerve, cardiac, organ tissues (which cannot heal), you will develop severe inflammations in those areas. This can cause secondary symptoms and damage, which usually never heal. This is why we have never attempted gene therapy in humans before. We do not have a guaranteed way to target specific cells in the body. The genes potentially can travel anywhere in the body and be taken up by any cell. If enough RNA strands make it to a vital organ...you will die. Every shot is playing Russian Roulette with your body. So that is why you see these symptoms in the virus and the vaccine. The difference is you do not give your immune system a chance to intercept the virus when you get a mRNA vaccine. That's why you will start to see many more cases of this in vaccinated people as time goes on. |
Watdhel
User ID: 79846724 Spain 08/20/2021 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, what state are you in, that Ivermectin is being used by doctors and or hospitals?? Quoting: Butch DeFeo I have no idea where OP is at but here is this- [link to www.knoe.com (secure)] Cousin in law is a NP, cousin said she was treating a lady whose liver was shutting down from Ivermectin. Don't know if she was a heavy drinker or possibly taking Warfarin or a blood thinner. Maybe she was taking too much? Idk The guy that has been taking it since April 2020 & has been to 4 different countries & hasn't been sick, is fine tho! I read your link. The thing is, we know there are parties that do not want Ivermectin used, so your link probably is some form of propaganda. We have enough doctors who work with COVID patients who say that Ivermectin works well against COVID. Damn straight it is! I posted it (the link) to another thread asking if people had seen reports like this from their local news station. The Dr's at my local hospital are giving Ivermectin to patients. If you go to the LOL big city hospital in Monroe you won't get it! Last Edited by Watdhel on 08/20/2021 04:18 PM |
Hoseman
User ID: 73009768 United States 08/20/2021 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check this thread - Dr McCullough protocol. It's for home treatment but you might find something else there. Thread: Dr. McCullough's COVID-19 Home-Based Treatment Protocol and Resources Last Edited by Hoseman on 08/20/2021 04:24 PM |
Uncle Gintel
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Stella Vanella
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oniongrass
User ID: 80365283 United States 08/20/2021 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bro...you need the immunoglobulin stuff. Ivermectin is only if you get it in an apocalypse when nothing else is available. Quoting: Uncle Gintel Why? Does the immunoglobulin stuff (what's it normally called?) work better than ivermectin? . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Phoenix Light
User ID: 79367328 United States 08/20/2021 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something is going on. In the last several days the dosage recommendations for Covid were increased to due to lack of response for patients whose condition continued to worsen. Quoting: ISLANDIA Well we have now have 5+ patients whom are also not responding to this higher dose as well. This is true and also HCQ is the same. The Virus is mutating and becoming much more Virulent. Phoenix Light |
TXP
User ID: 80383054 United States 08/20/2021 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have these people been previously vaccinated? Or do you think this is a new variant? Quoting: ThreadKiller2000 The vaccination question is key - even if only one dose. Ivermectin won’t work effectively if the cause of the problem is your own cells. Haven't read all of the thread yet, so this topic may have been raised, but the possibility that the new biotech-created spike protein factory is not turning off and is overwhelming ivermectin action cannot be ruled out. 'Cause, well, we are missing a shit ton of human trial data as well as long term data. I better understand the condition of when people break and "go postal". A person can only take so much evil. . . "Stop the lockdown. Stop the masks. Stick your vaccine up your ass." - Tess....AMEN! "What does CENSORSHIP reveal? It reveals FEAR." - Julian Assange . |
Prayandprepare000
User ID: 78116487 United States 08/20/2021 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some are not going to benefit from Ivermectin. Quoting: Vasily Some are not going to tolerate Ivermectin. Doesn't mean Ivermectin shouldn't be tried. Totally agree. These are all currently non hospitalized patients who once diagnosed were started on a regiment of Prednisone Ivermectin z pack. Quoting: ISLANDIA Tell your wife to read the CBD oil article I linked. It binds to the same receptors as covid. Might be helpful idk.. Great article! Thanks. |
mxguy
User ID: 35738720 United States 08/20/2021 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something is going on. In the last several days the dosage recommendations for Covid were increased to due to lack of response for patients whose condition continued to worsen. Quoting: ISLANDIA Well we have now have 5+ patients whom are also not responding to this higher dose as well. ask nicargua! No SCAMDEMIC because of hydroxy and ivermection! Shouldn't Africa be DEAD? HMMMMMMMM WONDER WHY? JERKOFF! GFY! Make no assumptions! Good For You! Don't be a useful idiot, supporting GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION, like a partisan . . . . r E j E c T |
TXP
User ID: 80383054 United States 08/20/2021 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im not a doctor but low o2 in vaxxed I would assume is the spike blocking up the small capillary that takes oxygen into the blood. They are doomed. Next up blood clots. Quoting: Catnahalf That's not how the spike protein works for vaccinated patients. Here is a breakdown I wrote yesterday. MIS-C is caused by the immune system attacking its own cells in the body. Quoting: Zedakah This can happen with any disease, but it is more common with a virus. A virus can infiltrate cells, cause the cells to produce viral proteins, which causes the immune system to attack those cells. This will then lead to inflammation (and worse). However, your white blood cells can intercept the virus itself before it infects cells. That way a healthy immune system can take care of the virus before it infects healthy cells, causing inflammation and apoptosis. The vaccine is an mRNA taken from the viral code. The mRNA is injected into the body where it will be taken up by cells. The mRNA will then enter the cell to make the spike protein, which goes to the cell membrane. This causes the immune response from your white blood cells. Here is the big problem. This vaccine passes all natural immune barriers and heads straight to infecting cells. That means that whatever cell takes up the mRNA will essentially be marked for death by your white blood cells. Now if muscle or skin tissue take up the mRNA, you will have localized inflammation in those areas, which they then can heal over time. However, if the mRNA travels around your body and is taken in by nerve, cardiac, organ tissues (which cannot heal), you will develop severe inflammations in those areas. This can cause secondary symptoms and damage, which usually never heal. This is why we have never attempted gene therapy in humans before. We do not have a guaranteed way to target specific cells in the body. The genes potentially can travel anywhere in the body and be taken up by any cell. If enough RNA strands make it to a vital organ...you will die. Every shot is playing Russian Roulette with your body. So that is why you see these symptoms in the virus and the vaccine. The difference is you do not give your immune system a chance to intercept the virus when you get a mRNA vaccine. That's why you will start to see many more cases of this in vaccinated people as time goes on. ^^^^^^^ Whether natural with cornoviruses or instructed by synthetic mRNA messaging, the weapons are the spike proteins. Important research is being conducted by Bruce Patterson and team who are investigating the condition being called "long haul covid". They found S1 spike proteins in the monocytes of every person in the study as well as common/shared symptoms and abnormal immune system markers/panels but no viral presence. From the findings, Patterson describes the condition as systemic "vascular inflammation" and "vascular dysfunction" from the S1 proteins. Treatment protocols are now being tested, and they've found that neutralizing/killing the S1 altered monocytes returns the immune system markers to normal and resolves the symptoms. They anticipate finding similar with the mRNA injected population. It's the damn spike proteins. Research discussion with clinical MD Mobeen Syed: Spike Proteins In Immune Cells - Dr. Bruce Patterson Discusses COVID Long Haul . Last Edited by TXP on 08/20/2021 06:07 PM . "Stop the lockdown. Stop the masks. Stick your vaccine up your ass." - Tess....AMEN! "What does CENSORSHIP reveal? It reveals FEAR." - Julian Assange . |
Uncle Gintel
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mr dull socks
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MarPep
User ID: 79667807 United States 08/20/2021 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Got a call from a nursing supervisor today---local hospital has 45 COVID patients in critical care. 20 on vent. Most are on everything in the book, many had already been started on Ivermectin at earlier visits to ER. Remdesivir seems worthless, but the convalescent plasma helps. Several patients have been hospitalized longer than a month. IMO, most thinking people believe COVID19 is likely a bio-weapon, but that the vaccine may also be another part of the bio-weapon-war/Great-Reset. But survival of vaccinated patients definitely seems higher than the non-vaccinated--at least at this point. This may indeed be the Apocalypse. 2 more weeks should tell. Last Edited by MarPep on 08/20/2021 06:54 PM _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
mr dull socks
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Babel Starry Night
User ID: 80205099 United States 08/20/2021 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ivermectin, from my own personal experience, will not prevent you from catching a corona virus(cold.) I took it prophylactically for a whole year while working covid units. Those folks coughed right in my face countless times. I thought I either had natural antibodies from an undiagnosed previous infection or the ivermectin was working. Funnily enough, a month after stopping that type of work exposure, I tested positive for covid(a cold), in mid-April. Ivermectin did not prevent me from getting covid(a cold), it did however lessen the symptoms so that I had the sniffles and a scratchy throat/allergy symptoms for 2 days. After that, I was fully recovered. I never required any treatment or even any otc medicine. I am a severe asthmatic who is normally dependent on aerosol treatments and steroids whenever I catch any type of respiratory virus. Ivermectin has made it so my URI’s mimic mild allergies and recovery is easy. I have had fewer illnesses overall since I started doing the ivermectin protocol. I used to get sick with cold/flu every 3-4 months or so due to constant work exposures. Not anymore. I go for 14-15 months without anything. Last Edited by Starry Like on 08/20/2021 07:15 PM Cathar Sis |
sk1nnybob
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MarPep
User ID: 79667807 United States 08/20/2021 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But survival of vaccinated patients definitely seems higher than the non-vaccinated--at least at this point. Quoting: MarPep there is no way to know this due to the change in reporting protocol of the CDC This is from state hospitalization reports. Only 2 facts needed---1)did they die? 2)Were they previously vaccinated? Not sure how "CDC reporting protocol" would change any of that. _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |