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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78411375 United States 04/11/2021 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i don't know if it was mRNA, maybe it was, i do know it was for a corona virus the problem was ADE, antibody dependent enhancement sometimes the presence of antibodies can cause greater illness in response to a later infection then would occur if no such antibodies existed something to do with antibodies helping the virus get into T cells, and in the T cells the virus then reproduces like crazy and causes a harmful immune response ... in this case i believe such antibodies are "non neutralizing" but i dont know in that study they were using mRNA OP do you know how an mRNA vaccine works ? the mRNA cause ribosomes in the cell to produce proteins similar to those on the virus surface ... somehow those proteins are then exposed outside the cell so that the immune system sees them and produces antibodies. its easy to see why some fear this could lead to an autoimmune disorder as your cells are producing a protein that the immune system attacks. they may say the production of that protein stops after a short period but i wouldnt assume that is true, for one RNA may sometimes become embedded in DNA this is known to have happened with ancient RNA viruses |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76735334 United States 04/11/2021 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP that was a study to produce a corona virus vaccine in animals Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78411375 i don't know if it was mRNA, maybe it was, i do know it was for a corona virus the problem was ADE, antibody dependent enhancement sometimes the presence of antibodies can cause greater illness in response to a later infection then would occur if no such antibodies existed something to do with antibodies helping the virus get into T cells, and in the T cells the virus then reproduces like crazy and causes a harmful immune response ... in this case i believe such antibodies are "non neutralizing" but i dont know in that study they were using mRNA OP do you know how an mRNA vaccine works ? the mRNA cause ribosomes in the cell to produce proteins similar to those on the virus surface ... somehow those proteins are then exposed outside the cell so that the immune system sees them and produces antibodies. its easy to see why some fear this could lead to an autoimmune disorder as your cells are producing a protein that the immune system attacks. they may say the production of that protein stops after a short period but i wouldnt assume that is true, for one RNA may sometimes become embedded in DNA this is known to have happened with ancient RNA viruses What he is looking for is SARS-CoV-1 mRNA injections used on ferrets. The studies from 2005 and again 2012. |
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User ID: 79463692 United Kingdom 04/11/2021 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t see anywhere on this page that it mentions mRNA vaccines. Those vaccines were Virus-like particles (VLPs) and recombinant. There's never been a mRNA vaccine! This is the first one! You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79648990 United States 04/11/2021 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t see anywhere on this page that it mentions mRNA vaccines. I don't know about any study that showed that a bunch of animals died from any of these particular vaccines (moderna or pfizer, would they tell you? remember the people who are taking the vaccine RIGHT NOW ARE THE TEST SUBJECTS, the first stage human testing was incomplete this is why it is not FDA approved.), but there are TONS of research papers with general mRNA experiments that were complete failures and kill all sorts of lab animals. Super dangerous technology. The first stage side effects you are seeing are only the beginning many of which are common to a number of vaccines (althoughthis blood clotting thing is weird). Where they had all the trouble was the subsequent cytokene storms when the subject gets re-infected or infected with something similar later and the immune system goes haywire and attacks the entire body itself. I think people are right we'll know in 6-18 months, unfortunately they will just blame it on an imaginary new super virulent virus. If you can't find these studies you aren't trying. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71242045 United States 04/11/2021 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t see anywhere on this page that it mentions mRNA vaccines. I don't know about any study that showed that a bunch of animals died from any of these particular vaccines (moderna or pfizer, would they tell you? remember the people who are taking the vaccine RIGHT NOW ARE THE TEST SUBJECTS, the first stage human testing was incomplete this is why it is not FDA approved.), but there are TONS of research papers with general mRNA experiments that were complete failures and kill all sorts of lab animals. Super dangerous technology. The first stage side effects you are seeing are only the beginning many of which are common to a number of vaccines (althoughthis blood clotting thing is weird). Where they had all the trouble was the subsequent cytokene storms when the subject gets re-infected or infected with something similar later and the immune system goes haywire and attacks the entire body itself. I think people are right we'll know in 6-18 months, unfortunately they will just blame it on an imaginary new super virulent virus. If you can't find these studies you aren't trying. You start your post saying you don’t know of any studies done like this on animals. But then you end the post saying if I can’t find the studies, I’m not trying. |
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User ID: 77311748 United States 04/11/2021 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quite a few people on here like to say that the animals that received the mRNA vaccine all died after getting exposed to the virus. Where is a link to that? When I try to google it, nothing legitimate comes up except one article that says it is debunked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71242045 This article wasn't actually debunked OP [link to sciencewithdrdoug.com (secure)] A Rooters article debunked a social media post about the article. The social media post was really out there, but the article itself was never debunked because it's 100% true. But they think we're so stupid we'll just read the headlines and assume the article itself was debunked. They're arrogant like that. We're being pecked to death by a duck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79648990 United States 04/11/2021 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t see anywhere on this page that it mentions mRNA vaccines. I don't know about any study that showed that a bunch of animals died from any of these particular vaccines (moderna or pfizer, would they tell you? remember the people who are taking the vaccine RIGHT NOW ARE THE TEST SUBJECTS, the first stage human testing was incomplete this is why it is not FDA approved.), but there are TONS of research papers with general mRNA experiments that were complete failures and kill all sorts of lab animals. Super dangerous technology. The first stage side effects you are seeing are only the beginning many of which are common to a number of vaccines (althoughthis blood clotting thing is weird). Where they had all the trouble was the subsequent cytokene storms when the subject gets re-infected or infected with something similar later and the immune system goes haywire and attacks the entire body itself. I think people are right we'll know in 6-18 months, unfortunately they will just blame it on an imaginary new super virulent virus. If you can't find these studies you aren't trying. You start your post saying you don’t know of any studies done like this on animals. But then you end the post saying if I can’t find the studies, I’m not trying. I stated it very simply, you either have poor reading comprehension or don't want to know. I STATED ON THE PFIZER AND MODERNA I KNOW OF NO ANIMAL STUDIES. There are tons of OTHER mRNA animal experiments that have happened in the decades prior that have always ended in great failure. Was that handholding good enough for you to understand? You are just a troll take your mRNA vaccine and quit wasting people's time. |
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