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Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?

 
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Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
Even if they aren't a stoner but use CBD for something, I've made that an option.

And if you know, let us know if they use smoke, vape, wax, edibles, etc.

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Even if they aren't a stoner but use CBD for something, I've made that an option.
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Not me personally, not someone that uses daily.
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Re: Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
Someone should do a poll.


Not sure how to word it properly to get the most truth.
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Re: Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
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Now if you asked if smoking tobacco gave some type of immunity, you might be right.
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Does Nicotine Protect Us Against Coronavirus?
A recent paper that examined smoking rates among COVID-19 patients in a French hospital hypothesised smoking might make people less susceptible to COVID-19 infection.
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Published 7 May 2020
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This article is republished here with permission from The Conversation. This content is shared here because the topic may interest Snopes readers; it does not, however, represent the work of Snopes fact-checkers or editors.

If you noticed headlines recently suggesting smoking could protect against COVID-19, you might have been surprised.


After all, we know smoking is bad for our health. It’s a leading risk factor for heart disease, lung disease and many cancers. Smoking also reduces our immunity, and makes us more susceptible to respiratory infections including pneumonia.

And smokers touch their mouth and face more, a risk for COVID-19 infection.

Initial observational findings suggested a history of smoking increased the risk of poor outcomes in COVID-19 patients, as the World Health Organisation and other bodies have identified.

But a recent paper which examined smoking rates among COVID-19 patients in a French hospital hypothesised smoking might make people less susceptible to COVID-19 infection.

So what can we make of this?

What the study did
This study was a cross-sectional survey where the researchers assessed the exposure (smoking) and the outcome (COVID-19) at the same time. This type of research design can’t prove the exposure causes the outcome – only that there may be an association.

There were two groups included in the study – 343 inpatients treated for COVID-19 from February 28 to March 30, and 139 outpatients treated from March 23 to April 9. Among other data collected, participants were asked whether they were current smokers.

The researchers compared smoking rates in both groups with smoking rates in the general French population.

The results
The study found 4.4% of inpatients and 5.3% of outpatients with COVID-19 were smokers, after adjusting for differences in age and sex.

This was only a fraction of the prevalence seen in the general French population. Some 25.4% reportedly smoked daily in 2018.

The authors asserted:

current smokers have a very much lower probability of developing symptomatic or severe SARS-CoV-2 infection as compared to the general population.

The finding of lower rates of smokers among COVID-19 cases has been more recently described elsewhere, in a rapid review of 28 studies on smoking in COVID-19 patients from various countries.

The authors of the French study suggest the mechanism behind the protective effects of smoking could be found in nicotine.

SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, gains entry into human cells by latching onto protein receptors called ACE2, which are found on certain cells’ surfaces.

The researchers have proposed nicotine attaches to the ACE2 receptors, thereby preventing the virus from attaching and potentially reducing the amount of virus that can get into a person’s lung cells.

The researchers are now planning to test their hypothesis in a randomised trial involving nicotine patches; though the trial is still awaiting approval from French health authorities.

So how should we interpret the results?
These counterintuitive results may be due to several biases, so let’s explore some alternative explanations.

First is what we call “selection bias”. The hospital patients may be less likely to be daily smokers than the general population. For example, health-care workers and those with existing chronic conditions were disproportionately represented in the inpatient sample – both of these groups usually show lower prevalence of current smoking.

Further, around 60% of the hospitalised patients in the study were ex-smokers (similar to the national prevalence). Some may have given up smoking very recently in response to the WHO declaring smoking as a risk factor for COVID-19. But they were classified as non-daily smokers in the study.


We can identify several biases in the study.
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Second is what we call “social desirability bias”. COVID-19 patients may be more likely to deny smoking when asked about their smoking status in hospital, wanting to be seen by medical professionals as doing the right thing.

And data collection may have been incomplete for behavioural questions in busy hospitals overwhelmed by COVID-19 cases.

Finally, it’s important to note this paper has not yet been peer-reviewed.

Taken together, although there appears to be an association between smoking and COVID-19 in these hospital-based samples, there’s no evidence of a causal relationship – that is, that smoking prevents COVID-19.

Lots of research at pandemic speed
We must acknowledge this research has been conducted at “pandemic speed”, much faster than usual research time frames.

Normally it would be months between submission and publication – but in this case the researchers completed their observations and had the research published online within the same month.

An unintended consequence of the early release of research is that it may provoke undue community hope or belief in unproven treatments.

French authorities had to limit sales of nicotine treatments to avoid stockpiling after this study was published.

We saw a similar phenomenon recently with the drug hydroxychloroquine, where supplies ran out for those who needed them after politicians proclaimed it as a cure for COVID-19.

So right now we need to put in extra effort to make sure early evidence is not misinterpreted or overstated.

As for the role of smoking in COVID-19 – this link requires substantially more research and critical appraisal. Because overall, smoking still kills. – Adrian Bauman, Melody Ding and Leah Shepherd

Blind peer review
On the whole, this Research Check represents a fair and balanced account of the study. The alternative explanations for the observation of low smoking status prevalence among the French hospital sample provided are possible.

One plausible explanation is error in recording smoking status. There is evidence of under-reporting and inaccurate reporting of smoking status within hospital samples, in general.

It’s unclear from the study what method was used to collect smoking status data. The authors simply state patients were “asked” and “data were collected in the context of care”. It’s important to know who asked the smoking status questions, what questions were asked, when they were asked, and what record keeping system was used.

Given clinical smoking status record keeping may not capture all smokers accurately, a better comparison would be to compare the 2020 data with pre-COVID-19 hospital patient data, rather than general population data which may have asked different questions. – Billie Bonevski

Research Checks interrogate newly published studies and how they’re reported in the media. The analysis is undertaken by one or more academics not involved with the study, and reviewed by another, to make sure it’s accurate.
Adrian Bauman, Sesquicentenary Professor, Public Health, University of Sydney; Leah Shepherd, Biostatistician, Sydney School of Public Health, University of Sydney, and Melody Ding, Associate Professor of Public Health, University of Sydney

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons license. Read the original article.

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Published 7 May 2020

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Re: Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
I don't know anyone period that has been infected. Not saying it's not real. No friends or family have reported.
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Re: Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
I smoke daily and actively participate in protests against covid restrictions. I've been in direct contact with thousands of people up and down the east coast. My MIL works at a nursing home and I have been hugging her without a mask without fail since the beginning of the pandemic. No deaths, massive outbreaks, or anything even remotely concerning. My son visited his mom in South Carolina last summer and was exposed to a whole new set of germs he hadn't experienced in a year. He was completely fine.
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Re: Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
All the stoners I know have not gotten COVID. The people I know who have gotten COVID are not stoners.

In fact, no cigarette smokers I know have gotten COVID either.

My hairdresser gave me some intel that the nurses who come in there believe smoking helps and most of the nurses have started smoking cigarettes. They say that the people dying in the hospital were all non smokers. I made a thread about it. I'm sure some people dying from covid have smoked plenty ... but it seems like the active smokers aren't the ones on the ventilators.

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I think it likes fat juicy lungs, and fat in the blood/organs/liver.

The Native Americans used to smoke tobacco to cure respiratory viruses.

There's definitely something to the smoke part ... nevermind the cannabinoid/immune response connection that I just read about on another thread.
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Re: Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
I smoke daily and actively participate in protests against covid restrictions. I've been in direct contact with thousands of people up and down the east coast. My MIL works at a nursing home and I have been hugging her without a mask without fail since the beginning of the pandemic. No deaths, massive outbreaks, or anything even remotely concerning. My son visited his mom in South Carolina last summer and was exposed to a whole new set of germs he hadn't experienced in a year. He was completely fine.
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be careful, you do not want to be a carrier and kill an innocent life. Thats good that you are doing well, please look out and be considerate of others.
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Re: Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
I don't know ANYONE who's had it

but I do live in weed country (southern Oregon) (not Williams, Merlin) (Merlin kicks William's ass in quality)

I've never stopped to think if everyone I know is a stoner too, but it's likely

some times of the year, you just need to step outside and breathe deeply

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industrial grows are going in all over the place

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Re: Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
I smoke daily and actively participate in protests against covid restrictions. I've been in direct contact with thousands of people up and down the east coast. My MIL works at a nursing home and I have been hugging her without a mask without fail since the beginning of the pandemic. No deaths, massive outbreaks, or anything even remotely concerning. My son visited his mom in South Carolina last summer and was exposed to a whole new set of germs he hadn't experienced in a year. He was completely fine.
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be careful, you do not want to be a carrier and kill an innocent life. Thats good that you are doing well, please look out and be considerate of others.
 Quoting: Bandito del Cielo


Won't live my life like I'm some kind of vector of disease. That's some Nazi shit.

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Re: Does anybody know a single stoner that's gotten covid?
I know a guy who smokes pot everyday and he got covid. Was pretty sick for over two weeks.





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