I regret going to college

I advise people to avoid college unless they have relatives or friends that can get you a job in your field when you graduate.

Because that's the only way you're going to apply a degree. Or, if you currently working a job and the company offers benefits to go to college.

But taking on loans to get a degree without any connections? Not a good idea.

I remember a recruiting trip a few of my mates and me took back in the day to one of the pharmaceutical powerhouses. They showed us exactly how the sausage was made in the factory. Pretty nasty what they were doing but very clean. Like NASA clean. They then toured us around the free condos they would give us to work there. Very swanky. With all of that bullshit, the four of us got drunk on their hotel dime and never even considered it. We all got real jobs after.

Where was this?

Fuck that.

Zero connections. Got elite level job anyway. Wanna know why? I'm gonna tell you anyway, 'cuz somebody needs to say this shit.

College is fucking hard. Even the easy ones are hard. The good ones are brutal.

If you are not a straight up borderline genius or higher you will get your ass kicked. By design. Cuz college is fucking hard.

Those Bachelors with a 3.75+ GPA at graduation are smart. Way smart. Scary smart.

Those Masters with 3.90+ GPA at graduation aren't even human any more, relatively speaking, when it comes to their inner intellectual terrain. There is an old saying, "genius looks like crazy to the average thinker." I disagree. If anything, it's the opposite. Average looks like crazy to the genius.

I went to school and absolutely owned it. I got my current jobs 'cuz I proved I am among the best of the best. For years. Again and again and again. The best.

Fuck your connections. I don't need them.

They come to me now.



Cuz college was fucking hard.

I majored in management and minored in marketing.

I enjoyed culinary school but I went for myself.

Right, this precisely. I have college degrees. But I've switched organizations, found new decent jobs, switched industries often, precisely because I needed an opportunity or more pay and I applied like a MADMAN to numerous orgs and opportunities. Similarly, people do need to learn to network. Frankly, that's half of what college is especially graduate school. Good ol' boys clubs. But, if someone does apply like mad to many different opportunities that have professional potential, in decent organizations, eventually something will click. It can take 6 months to a year. You may have to be willing to move too.

If you DIDN'T go to college, what would you be doing and how much money do you think you'd be making?

With a college degree, you could join the military and automatically become an officer. Free healthcare, a paycheck every two weeks. Serve 20 years and retire. Get a pension and free healthcare for the rest of your life.

Last Edited by nutmeg on 01/24/2021 03:11 PM

First of all, I can tell you that going to college is ONLY for those who know they need a college degree to do what they truly WANT to do.

If you didn't know what you wanted to do/study, then you had no business going to college.

There are plenty of people who make a great living doing what they are good at, or what they are trained to do. Not all training requires a college degree.

That said, however, I will admit that I have ALWAYS been able to get a job BECAUSE of my degree. Of course, my degree is in education, so there are always places looking for teachers, so I never went without a job. Maybe not the one I wanted - in the location I wanted - or for the pay I wanted - but I WORKED. All my life. Where ever we lived, I was able to find work while others I knew pounded the pavement with no success (including spouse, sometimes).

Knowing what you are good at, or what you have a passion for helps you get the kind of job you love...and SHOULD be the direction to help you get the proper degree.

It has been said, "Find a way to make a living doing what you love, and you'll never work again."

Finally, the old saying? "Cream always rises to the top?" Yeah. It's true. If you are not able to "rise" higher in your job or company, then I suspect YOU have a shitty attitude or some other weakness the bosses sense.

Try working on those.

Nah, a lot of people get those connections precisely from going to college, especially grad school. That's where I did. I went from very little connections to pretty impressive ones in grad school.

If you already have them, you actually need college less, unless you want a job that requires college by policy (law, medicine, etc etc).

Well, as you know though education at least in the US usually requires a bachelors in education. Many states require a masters degree for secondary or higher.

But to the point of the op too, there is a big difference between getting a liberal arts degree versus a finance, engineering, nursing, or even education licensure degree. The former you will have to really show yourself to be highly motivated and capable to get ahead. But, you can. It's just not really due to the degree. Some organizations do require though a college degree, whatever it may be. For the practical degrees, the latter group, going to college absolutely makes it easier to get a decent job out of college.

With a college degree, you could join the military and automatically become an officer. Free healthcare, a paycheck every two weeks. Serve 20 years and retire. Get a pension and free healthcare for the rest of your life.


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Last Edited by nutmeg on 01/24/2021 03:28 PM

You can't "tell them the truth."

I teach at a college, too, and the little whiney bitches will just CRY to Mommy and Daddy about you being a BAAAD TEACHER and then someone writes up bad reviews of you (go back and read the post that says so, it's true!) and then you gotta toe the line and watch your P's and Q's for how long till everyone forgets about the whiney baby who got 5 friends to write a baaaad review on you cause you FAILED their sorry ass when they didn't even belong in college!

Today, teaching at ANY age is useless, cause we've created a society who doesn't want to invest in ANYTHING. They just want to sit around like little baby birds and wait for it to just drop into their mouths.

Kids today DO NOT KNOW HOW TO THINK for themselves. They've almost been brainwashed NOT to have an original thought. Makes it hard to "teach," when all they want is for you to toss it over to them so they can sop it up.

I understand, ac0148, but I don't HATE my job. I get a couple each semester who are listening, who LEARN and hear what I have to tell them, and I just make it about them. I feel like, "Screw the others. Life will eventually teach them the lessons I couldn't."

Like YOUR life, and prepare for your retirement. Then be ready to enjoy it once you can disengage.

If you don't mind putting miles on your car, work for Doordash/UberEats/GrubHub etc. You'll make $15-20+ an hour and you can work as much as you want. It's an easy, low stress job, and people are usually happy to see you.

Depends on your major, your occupation, and your location.

The problem was the major you chose

If you went to college and studied accounting you would have a guaranteed job at 45,000$ or more a year as soon as you graduate

Many majors are not worth pursuing and THAT is the problem

The schools do not care about your after college job prospects

I don't regret going, and it has nothing to do with money.

I think different thoughts having been to college. I'm not the same person. I saved some money before going, and took time (a few years) to decide what I wanted to study before taking the plunge. Having some money laid aside for it was very helpful. I was older than my classmates too, so I was more mature...and I wasn't worried about anything except doing a good job and getting good grades.

I won a few scholarships after my first year, and I was only a mediocre student in high school.

I got up in the morning, excited to learn and had deep interest in what I was learning. It was so much better than going to work. I would have loved to become a professional student.

Extra time I had, I went to the library and studied some subjects on my own. I worked ahead in my books, did additional reading...I was paying for this, so I wanted to get the most out of it.

I wasn't disappointed.

The job is basically taking your vehicle value and turning it into cash

It will ruin your car to go on endless stop and go short trips

Agree.

Oldest niece working on her Doctoral Degre.

Started college a week after High School.
She went in smart, and now has gone completely stupid.

Poor kid has forgotten everything she was taught growing up.

Full On Liberal now.
I was she’d just become a meth addict or something more honorable than what she’s become.

For some it is. My wife and I not so much. I just gave a 2 year tech degree and wife has 4 year in Management.

I’ve doubled my salary and my wife has almost tripled hers. She just finished up 2 years ago.

The problem is people going into the wrong thing. My biggest advice for anyone going...find a community college and get all gen eds done there then pursue your 4 year in Business Administration. It will apply for almost any type of job.

You went, it's done.

So now look at what you've got.

If you worked hard and made good grades, the improvement to your brain, without added skill, is still an incredible achievement.

You should be functioning at a higher level that will carry the rest of your life, job or not.

That sounds about right. You learned an actual technical skill and you got a job. Your wife just studied management and tripled her salary. Because WE NEED MORE WOMYN IN _______. Plus HR gatekeepers are 100% female or shitlibs, so they favor womyn heavily.

Meanwhile OP has the same degree as your wife, and never got a job in his field. Because muh WHITE MALE. If you are a man and can't tick a box, you need to bring an actual skill to the table. Womyn can just breeze in and get hired because of affirmative action/quota requirements.

I had a full scholarship to a tech school and I regret going to that. Spent 18 months to get a free piece of paper.

What a waste of time

You go to college and get a junk degree what do you expect?

If you get an english degree or a psychology degree or an art history degree you are going to be serving coffee I am sorry nobody told you that that has been the way it has always been.

College is about a lot more than getting a job afterward. It’s about finding a mate. It’s about experiencing many different views, thoughts, ideas. It’s about gaining independence — of living, of thought. It’s about assuming responsibility, honoring commitments, and proving that you can meet prerequisites and deadlines.

ok beumar

OP don't listen to these Beumars.

There is EXTREME RIDICULOUS INEQUALITY IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW and Beumars are sitting on their fat pile while you pay for their absurd medical costs.

There ARE NO OPPORTUNITIES.

yes you have a right to be VERY VERY MAD.

there's a great future in plastics!

yes young man you should get a degree in accounting and help billionaires dodge taxes and get even richer!

it's the Beumar way!