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If you can GET OUT OF THE MARKET NOW!!!!!

 
Sotired

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Outside of physical, I'm 1/3 cash, 1/3 crypto and 1/3 TLT 30 Year Treasury ETF. The mother of all short squeezes will eventually happen in the bond market that will cause Treasury prices to skyrocket and long term yields to plummet to zero. So hoping to ride that action with TLT and then flip it to commodity producer equities.
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Stocks are up BIGLY. Tons of money. Market isn't going anywhere. Too much money involved. The controllers need more slaves and money.
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By all accounts, the market should have collapsed in the fall. In the current situation, the analysis does not work. But cryptocurrencies will soon fall, the bubble is obvious.
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Thread: TODAY IS THE DAY - Wall Street braces for trading surge as Tesla enters S&P 500
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Much of the market is emotional, as we all know. With the spectacular gains we have seen in the NASDAQ, we don't want to finish the year weak...and the stimulus will ensure it...
 Quoting: BRIEF


the stimulus is a crutch A Narcan shot to revive a dead economy. If you say great gains in the market you know its because of the trillions in stimulus (BAILOUT MONEY) that was pumped into the market this year

the Stonk market does not reflect the real economy because if it did and no Bailout money was injected into it this year MILLIONS MORE would have lost their job and many more businesses would have closed permanently.
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12/21/2020 10:07 AM
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so what's best to invest in other than crypto/btcn
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Theta
imagine Youtube Netflix Etherium Uniswap combo in a proof of Stake token with a Patent for decentralized data streaming with the lowest transaction fees around.
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12/21/2020 10:08 AM
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ROFL not even close.
The stimulus bill WILL over power all the virus bullshit.
The only way is up! Especially if they keep giving out big money to the corps and allowing stock buy backs!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79789712


hesright

but this is their marry-go-round and they decide when it stops. When they decide to stop it people are gonna wish they kept feeding the market the heroin

No one can predict when that will be. The best in the business have forecasted it but always fail. At this point I dont see them actually pulling the plug. I think they will keep injecting until the heart stops. Well they can keep going until the heart stops or groups of countries decides to dethrone king dollar as the worlds reserve currency. Even then the fed still wouldnt stop entering ones and zeros on the computer screens they will go till the heart stops
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By all accounts, the market should have collapsed in the fall. In the current situation, the analysis does not work. But cryptocurrencies will soon fall, the bubble is obvious.
 Quoting: WalkDark


Just wait until we hit the insolvency event. Look at the retail bankruptcy numbers hitting highs not seen since the last crisis. Wait until the moratoriums on evictions and the mortgage forbearances lapse. There is no "recovery".
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12/21/2020 10:12 AM
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There will be an epic crash when all the election fraud drops....Fake licenses from China have been used which means it is direct foreign interference....

Remember the Biden-China news???

Helping Biden STEAL the election????

[link to www.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

Think...bypass civilian courts and the fake election is now investigated by DOJ Intelligence...and Military....

It is going to be biblical.....
 Quoting: SEVENFOURSIXTYEIGHT


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Sotired

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ROFL not even close.
The stimulus bill WILL over power all the virus bullshit.
The only way is up! Especially if they keep giving out big money to the corps and allowing stock buy backs!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79789712


The market may continue up for a bit, but the stimulus is like blowing on a freight train in order to stop it from running you over. The sheer amount of deflationary forces will overpower any stimulus. All stimulus will have temporary effects and diminishing returns.

Unless they go full UBI or the Treasury starts guaranteeing all consumer loans...something HUGE like that...unless they do something huge like this, all efforts to "stimulate" will fail to spark inflation. We are circling a deflationary drain at the end of a long term debt cycle. This debt based system is trying desperately to deleverage, but our desires for "line go up" means policy makers keep kicking the can making the final deflation even bigger. We are at the point now where we cannot kick the can anymore without going the UBI route.
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People might FOMO into crypto.

The great crash is coming sooner or later.
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12/21/2020 10:17 AM
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Amazing what Trump did to lose the election. As many Trump cultists as there are, way more people hate his fucking guts.
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12/21/2020 10:20 AM
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The markets are fake and have been for years. They act irrationally because of manipulation and obfuscation. Most people are no where near capable of beating a rigged market who’s rules change in fractions of a second. Same goes with bitcoin, where one sell contract can move the price in huge swings. Same with gold and silver, unless you are holding it in your hand.
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12/21/2020 10:34 AM
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Anyone remember the 12 month forbearance???

It ends in March....if you can't prove you have a job and can pay 3 consecutive months of mortgage millions of foreclosures start.....and nothing is going to stop it...

Are they going to give another 12 months???

Banks will be fucked they keep this shit up.....

Enjoy it while it lasts....oh BTW do not forget year end sales.....investors taking profits while it's good....
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12/21/2020 10:35 AM

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I got short at the end of the day yesterday. Everything I got..let’s see what happens
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I heard that TESLA is the most shorted stock...

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12/21/2020 10:37 AM
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Look at home prices. Home values are through the roof. I live in a poor & economically depressed ghost town compared to the rest of the country and my home value has doubled in the last 5 years. Most of that value increase has occurred over the last 2 years. It’s a sweeping generalization to say “the market” is crashing. Housing market, if it’s any reflection on anything, sure as shit isn’t crashing.

 Quoting: Starrycard


Sounds similar to what my old boss told me in 2004 when I told him housing was a bubble.
Truth be known
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Don't sell when it's crashing, buy more! There'll be some great deals at low low prices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78067774


Bingo. If you want to succeed, you do the opposite of the masses. If everyone runs from the Dow, I’ll be running to it.
There is no nobility in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self. ~ Ernest Hemingway
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12/21/2020 10:43 AM
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What was that site that showed (In 2016) that America would decline?

Military related - or resources.
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Look at home prices. Home values are through the roof. I live in a poor & economically depressed ghost town compared to the rest of the country and my home value has doubled in the last 5 years. Most of that value increase has occurred over the last 2 years. It’s a sweeping generalization to say “the market” is crashing. Housing market, if it’s any reflection on anything, sure as shit isn’t crashing.

 Quoting: Starrycard


Sounds similar to what my old boss told me in 2004 when I told him housing was a bubble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75543000


It's still not a bubble yet...

Back then, they were giving 1st buyer home loans with no money down and were not adhering to minimum income levels...

You still need 20% down payment for a home buyer loan and must meet minimum income levels. If they take that away, then all bets are off and a bubble will burst...
Sotired

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Look at home prices. Home values are through the roof. I live in a poor & economically depressed ghost town compared to the rest of the country and my home value has doubled in the last 5 years. Most of that value increase has occurred over the last 2 years. It’s a sweeping generalization to say “the market” is crashing. Housing market, if it’s any reflection on anything, sure as shit isn’t crashing.

 Quoting: Starrycard


Sounds similar to what my old boss told me in 2004 when I told him housing was a bubble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75543000


It's still not a bubble yet...

Back then, they were giving 1st buyer home loans with no money down and were not adhering to minimum income levels...

You still need 20% down payment for a home buyer loan and must meet minimum income levels. If they take that away, then all bets are off and a bubble will burst...
 Quoting: DuckNCover


It doesn't need to be a bubble. All it takes for some retracement would be credit contracting and fewer buyers able to finance a purchase. The price of housing is inflated by lending...just like student loans have inflated the cost of college education. If people have a harder time getting loans, then that means there are fewer buyers, which puts downward pressure on prices. The flip side is that wealthy foreigners and large conglomerates are willing to pay cash and buy up all inventory turning this country into a nation of renters.
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sorry bud no can do
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I believe it's about to CRASH too because zuckerburg just sold many millions of his Facebook stock...the elites know....
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The markets are unaffected by internal political fighting. Unless there is a direct impact to the way money is moved in this country, aka supply chain, manufacturing, etc...

This boy cried wolf shit costs people money.

I was in a large group text earlier with money managers telling smaller investors to secure their portfolio and move out to cash as this new strain can crash us.

Uhhh, nope. That's not how it works. They love to shake out the small folk.
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A market crash is not a good reason to sell your assets.

It is however a good reason to buy more.
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Look at home prices. Home values are through the roof. I live in a poor & economically depressed ghost town compared to the rest of the country and my home value has doubled in the last 5 years. Most of that value increase has occurred over the last 2 years. It’s a sweeping generalization to say “the market” is crashing. Housing market, if it’s any reflection on anything, sure as shit isn’t crashing.

 Quoting: Starrycard


Sounds similar to what my old boss told me in 2004 when I told him housing was a bubble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75543000


It's still not a bubble yet...

Back then, they were giving 1st buyer home loans with no money down and were not adhering to minimum income levels...

You still need 20% down payment for a home buyer loan and must meet minimum income levels. If they take that away, then all bets are off and a bubble will burst...
 Quoting: DuckNCover


FHA loan requires 3-5% down
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Don't sell when it's crashing, buy more! There'll be some great deals at low low prices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78067774


Bingo. If you want to succeed, you do the opposite of the masses. If everyone runs from the Dow, I’ll be running to it.
 Quoting: Truth be known


But what if it doesn't come back up ? Theres a reason zuckerburg just sold off millions upon millions in his Facebook stock,..
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A market crash is not a good reason to sell your assets.

It is however a good reason to buy more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78067774


clappa
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What was that site that showed (In 2016) that America would decline?

Military related - or resources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73305739


Found it - deagle
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put options expiring 1/20?
 Quoting: Head2Bunker


Yup. And buy (convert) silver (money) with barterable FRN's (debt that will never be repaid).
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Don't sell when it's crashing, buy more! There'll be some great deals at low low prices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78067774


Bingo. If you want to succeed, you do the opposite of the masses. If everyone runs from the Dow, I’ll be running to it.
 Quoting: Truth be known


“Be fearful when others are greedy. Be greedy when others are fearful.” -- Warren Buffett

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